Why I left

sad story good ending

@ethnine Even if I never supported this game, I would never call it an MMORPG and I don't understand at all how other people can.

How can you look at something like World of Warcraft and then Sea of Thieves and just be like "Yup, those are the same thing." It boggles my mind. The game is certainly not Massively Multiplayer, there is basically no RPG elements whatsoever other than the fact that you are playing as a pirate (thus a role you play), and the only thing that have in common is they're both Online.

This game is what Rare calls it, a shared world adventure game. You're sharing the world with a few other people while everyone is partaking in adventures of their own. There aren't hundreds, thousands, or millions of people playing with you at the same time on the same server. There are no RPG mechanics. You cannot level up, you do not have stats to increase, you do not have gear to equip outside of 2 guns that everyone else can also get, there is no massive story you're undertaking.

You cannot honestly tell me you compare this game to WoW, EVE Online, Tera, Black Desert Online, Elder Scrolls Online, Star Trek Online, Runescape, Everquest, Guild Wars, Star Wars The Old Republic, Ultima Online, Lord of the Rings Online, ArcheAge, WildStar, DC Universe Online, Phantasy Star Online, etc. This game has almost nothing in common with these games other than the fact that you play online. Oh and some of them have sailing.

@ethnine It is a shared world adventure game. That is what Rare has labeled it. Sounds pretty accurate to me. you share the world with a few other players and everyone is out having an adventure.

All I am gonna say is this: https://www.seaofthieves.com/game

@eredhar Frankly, it's inaccurate. "Sea of Thieves is a new type of multiplayer game."

No, no it isn't. As Ethinine said, this game is exactly the same as the core of games like Eve and Elite: Dangerous. I mean it's EXACTLY the same. The progression system in SoT is lifted directly out of Elite with almost no variance. The overall feel and flow of the game is exactly the same thing as Elite. The only thing it's missing is upgradeable/new ships to buy, NPC's (whose jobs can be contracted out to players anyways), and a much larger game world.

Elite is classified as a space sim, so wouldn't that make SoT a pirate sim? Most players would call Elite a survival game in the realm of DayZ and Ark. While I personally don't think of SoT as an MMO or an RPG, it's definitely a survival game. Calling it a SWAG, inventing a whole new genre, that's disingenuous to me when it's really not different enough from existing games to warrant that.

You don't go to church for the people, you go to praise, grow in knowledge and better understand your place in God's kingdom. You don't go to the Sea of Thieves forum for the people......... You go to praise, grow in knowledge and better understand your place in the Sea of Thieves. 😆 Your place I'm thinking is in the "Brig"! 😁😁😁

@ethnine said in Why I left:

@the-lion-turtle ....while you also grind reputation by hunting for treasure which then unlocks the ability to purchase more items for your character or your ship that makes functional improvements to the way you play the game. Sounds like an RPG to me.

If you think grinding defines an RPG, which Sea of Thieves is not (unless you're talking the LARPing definition of role play), then the modern gaming industry has failed you.

As for purchasing things for your character and ship that impact how you play the game, this is only true in the alpha/beta for your character and a single weapon. We don't even know if this is how it'll work at launch. Everything else for your character is completely cosmetic. The shovels, buckets, different looks for the compass, instruments, etc., is all cosmetic and has zero impact on gameplay.

As for your ship, it's all cosmetic so it does not impact gameplay whatsoever. Unless having a different looking ship compared to someone else somehow gives you an advantage.

@Orcbutt
Firstly alot of these replies are proving his point so well done for that guys, please read the pirate code and actually try and be respectful of other peoples opinions, even if they may not coincide with your own.

Its a shame to see you go @Orcbutt i remember you from when i first signed up and was starting to get to know these waters, you always had good and insightful suggestions and feedback, and you are right that the forums are changing and it isnt necessarily for the better. Its a shame you are not in the pioneer category, it still has its problems but it feels alot more like the "Old days" and theres a close knit group of players there all carrying out there duties to improve the game.

Ive also found myself picking what conversations i engage in now alot more carefully, and after the last two topics i posted i just felt like i got a load of negativity instead of the insightfull conversations of old where people would actually suggest different approaches or ideas or even add to yours.

Now it feels like alot of people just try to shut you down for suggesting anything that might not coincide with how they believe the game should be, its all personally stopped me posting a few topics i thought about doing due to just feeling like im going to constantly have to be on the defensive over the idea. Its just not worth it.

I dont however, agree with you about the game, i believe currently it has alot of potential for griefing but there has always been alot of active "Regulars" who have been very outspoken and open to the ways which it can happen and to how it can be addressed, its my hope that there will be a nice big quality of life patch for launch which will fix alot of he problems. I dont think our suggestions/criticisms have been falling on deaf ears.

I think a part of the problem is Rare are not necessarily that good with communicating with the community, we dont really hear about what impacts we have had on the game, what ideas we have helped them implement or the decisions the community has helped shape. Im hoping as we come to and pass launch we are actually going to be losing all this mystery and need to know policies and actually get alot more transparency with the development of the game.

Even if you dont read this, ill be honest you gave me a window of opportunity to let out a few of my frustrations, so i thank you for that parting gift and wish you luck in your next endeavour! Hopfully the game will turn into what we all want it to be and i will see your gamertag in a lobby one day! :)

@ant-heuser-kush Thats why its up to us i suppose to push past that and show the newer members how things work around here. Its goig to be frustrating and hard at times but if we all stay positive and do our bit i believe we can keep the community spirit in tact.

I suppose it all boils down to "Education", like you said most forums are not like this one so there is already a pre determined behaviour pattern that is accepted on most forums but doesnt cut it here.

Its up to us all to show them a different way, just think on all those posts (My first ever thread was one) what used to come up about how friendly and nice everyone around here is and how they cant believe there is a community like this where ideas are listened to and expanded on and not ridiculed and shut down. Thats the forums i remember and enjoy visiting everuday.

And besides, we dont normally align views on the threads we have debates and discussions on but im sure we can both agree with this and that in itself is a great cause to agree with! Feel free to PM me if you ever get frustrated or just want to discuss some ideas about the game, im always happy to exchange thoughts :)

@ethnine said in Why I left:

@the-lion-turtle said in Why I left:

As for your ship, it's all cosmetic so it does not impact gameplay whatsoever. Unless having a different looking ship compared to someone else somehow gives you an advantage.

Incorrect.

Entertainment

"Yeah. You get treasure and you want the loot, you’ll want to spend it. Personal progressions are around you and also on weapons and objects that you can carry. Everyone wants to own a ship or ships and make it look like they want it to look cool. These customizations aren’t just aesthetics but functional too. So a larger sail that looks cool will also makes your ship move quicker too."

Items do, and will, have functional advantages. Rare has been clear on this point from the beginning. Just because there's no number to give items a stat, items do have pros/cons. This is going to be expanded on with the full release of the game.

Ah your one of those. I'm definitely not going over this again. If you choose to believe outdated and since corrected information, that's you're prerogative.

I will choose to believe what Rare has said for the last year and a half after that article was made instead. If you're right come launch, you win. Yay? As it stands now, I'll stick with what Rare is currently saying.