This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find:

  • @mrgrim67686 said in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    @mmountain It's not called "Sea of Friends".

    I mean, teaming up is OP as hell so it's good to have friends. ...the only real reason TO team up though is to be OP as hell and sink some people. The things that go BANG are there for a reason y'know?

    I'm all for sinking people, but as it stands the game is unbalanced because it's simply fun to sink people, regardless of gold. Theirs no risk, no investment for the attacking player. No reward for the defending player.

    I'm not complaining about PVP or PVE. Just highlighting an unfortunate flaw in the game balancing.

    The PVPer who doesn't care about gold has nothing to protect so will always kill on sight. And even if they do care about gold if they have an empty ship they still have nothing to lose.

    I know this cos this is how my crew play at the end of a night. 30 mins of roaming the ocean looking for people to sink because it's fun and has no negative consequences for us if we get bested.

  • @mmountain Aye. I can agree to that. There need to be some more customization options. Options that are destructible and would need replacement. Something. Anything. A game about ships and your ship is totally throwaway.

    Something is wrong there.

    There's no consequence for death either. Permadeath for your pirate and another trip to the IPG on the Ferry or even respawning with half health and reduced movement speed for X minutes/seconds would be a start.

  • @genereder

    Ahoy mate, there's a poster in the lobby at Rare (or was) which shows the numbers of players using each ship type during the beta, there are a significant number of players who prefer to use the sloop.

    Sea of Thieves is a game that contains choices about how to play and there are a huge number of people who very much enjoy solo slooping.

    There is information on the login page which describes the challenges of sailing solo and there are hints, tips and suggestions for solo sailors, and making this choice a successful one.

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/24675/alone-on-a-wide-wide-sea-collected-hints-and-tips-for-the-solo-pirate

    I'd like to suggest that there is actually quite a low proportion of the total number of solo sailors posting on the forums.

    There's also a recent video released which talks about this and the design decisions behind it:

    https://youtu.be/Jx6y-4wRgrE

  • @genereder Too be fair, you do make a good point.
    But you should advice people that play solo to go on the Xbox app and look for other crews. It works really well for solo players to find a group there! :) it is easy and in my experience ive had about 80% success with the groups I find ^^

  • @genereder Oh no, i will suddenly be so afraid when sailing solo.

    But seriously: Even while it is high diffculty, i still don't agree that this game isn't meant to be played solo. If this would be the case, the solo option in the menu must be a glitch or bug of some sort, right? Teaming up is just recommended.

    Of course You can attack every sloop you see, risk just is a part of the game.
    But the pirate code is also part of the game, just stay aware of article 6:
    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/45966/sea-of-thieves-official-forum-rules

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    Thanks to everybody who shared their feelings and opinions to my toxic nonsense....

    But ask yourself:
    Why did all of you answer to this obvious bullship while literally none of you shared their opinion on the very same statement that was just more constructive...
     https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/56296/difficulty-description-solo-play-hard-mode

    It is more then obvious that i cant thus wont attack any sloop there is even if i wanted to!

    Very special thanks to everybody who basicly agreed that this forum has too many solo player s*b stories.

    AND VERY VERY SPECIAL THANKS TO YOU GUYS WHO UNDERSTOOD THE VERY CORE OF THIS: If somebody decides to play solo it is a decision that needs some skill, has a special set of mind and strategy to it but you still are all in and fight the hard fight anyhow!
    Solo players who play solo successfully and who can handle a loss, i respect you a lot!

    Solo players who just yell in this forum and form a loud and unreasonable minority that i am scared rare will think of as the majority... i will stop my nonsense if you stop yours!

    This game is great! Please rare dont change it, not for sobbers who just cant handle a loss in game! Rather encourage the noobs who tend to do so to team up before they sail solo and get a wrong idea of the game!

    As i said:
     https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/56296/difficulty-description-solo-play-hard-mode

  • @genereder I think you need professional help

  • @genereder If you'd now like the thread closed down, let us know, as discussion may have run it's course.

  • @katttruewalker said in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    @genereder If you'd now like the thread closed down, let us know, as discussion may have run it's course.

    No its fine thank you i can handle some internet forum usual ;) i would rather like to hear more people and maybe somebody answers to my question: why is the same statemant either constructive not looked at at all but the very same yet salty yelled at?

  • whats your favourite animal ?
    ....humans !!!

  • Look at me as your teacher who tells you just one lesson in a way you wont forget it: this game is not meant to be played solo if you cant handle the risk that comes with it!

    I can't really look at you when I'm rolling my eyes this hard.

  • @katttruewalker said in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    @genereder

    Ahoy mate, there's a poster in the lobby at Rare (or was) which shows the numbers of players using each ship type during the beta, there are a significant number of players who prefer to use the sloop.

    Sea of Thieves is a game that contains choices about how to play and there are a huge number of people who very much enjoy solo slooping.

    There is information on the login page which describes the challenges of sailing solo and there are hints, tips and suggestions for solo sailors, and making this choice a successful one.

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/24675/alone-on-a-wide-wide-sea-collected-hints-and-tips-for-the-solo-pirate

    I'd like to suggest that there is actually quite a low proportion of the total number of solo sailors posting on the forums.

    There's also a recent video released which talks about this and the design decisions behind it:

    https://youtu.be/Jx6y-4wRgrE

    I love it! I think more videos like this help the community to clear up some design choices that keep this forum occupied!

  • @genereder I'll start by saying that I don't play solo. With that having been said though, who the ____ died and appointed you as the official teacher of how one must appropriately play video games? Oh, that's right, nobody did. You've told us everything we need to know about the type of person you are. You're the type of person whose insecurities, lack of abilities, and general shortcomings in real life are so numerous they feel the constant need to viciously take it out others in the only place they aren't too weak to do so. Be careful of the behaviors you let fly because they'll be contagious. Additionally, it'll eventually grow and come out in real life and somebody (like myself) will be more than happy to provide the appropriate attitude adjustment. My friends and I don't attack sloops that don't attack us first. It doesn't challenge us or make us feel big to destroy one guy. You're basically sucker punching the disabled kid and then you have the nerve to come here and try to justify it? Einstein once said "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." I know I won't convince you to not be an _______ but karma is a real _____ and she'll come around eventually little man.

  • "Look at me as your teacher"

    No thank you mister miyagi I'm good

  • @genereder sagte in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    But ask yourself:
    Why did all of you answer to this obvious bullship while literally none of you shared their opinion on the very same statement that was just more constructive...
     https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/56296/difficulty-^

    So you realy think that you are a teacher who is the chosen one to give all others lessons ?

    I tell you what i think:

    You are welcome to be a real teacher.... to teach others how they can defend themselfes... that's would be constructive.

    It isn't a lesson to attack everyone on sight and to make solo players and sloops sink without reasons. ..

    I guess you did that all the time before too without to claim that you are a teacher ... only because of the purpose of fun. And you keep on with that behave because of the same purpose as before.

    You know by yourself that the words teacher and lessons are senseless phrases to justify your behavior to yourself and to us.

    You are no teacher and not the chosen one and the only one who have to learn this lesson are you. And you should be at least honestly
    to yourself.

    But you have reached one:
    In general if i read all comments here i see how toxic the community realy is. The Conclusion is that we have many players around here they have a big ego mouth but no balls . They think that they are godlike PVPler only because they sink every defenseless sloops.

    About this here:
    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/56296/difficulty-description-solo-play-hard-mode

    I neither agree nor disapprove or disagree of this, but there are far bigger and more important problems in the game than worrying about captions and descreptions. That's why i can't give another comment on this as only: "i don't care at this point". And that's why i didn't write anything into your thread.

    Ohh Wait ... i will write there a constructive comment for you in few minutes !

  • Seems that somebody is full of their own self-importance.

  • @genereder
    About your other unanswered Thread: SoT already states out that playing solo is a dangerous adventure, just as a short text, so maybe some users thought this is obsolete. I personally prefer those short hints over long texts, but i get the point of making the warning more serious.

    Also maybe it was just bad timing to post it, just bad luck? Sometimes those threads are just thrown off the first page by too many new entries and people don't really check for further new threads - bad luck can just kill discussions here.

  • @genereder The only way that a galleon crew has sunk me si far, is if I am dock at an island or make a mistake while out sailing them. I have only been sunk once by a galleon that's because I was done playing and let them sink me to let them feel like they won. I attack a galleon head on. Out gunned, out sailed, and kept them at bay by myself. They did sink me but that was my fault I went to close. The only way they could sink me, was all 4 swarmed my ship and dropped the anchor to stop me so they could actually hit me with thier canons. So bring it on I except you challenge.

  • @genereder so what you are saying is, you want to play like an a*****e, and everyone else has to like it?

    How’s that work for you in the real world?

  • @genereder No, the game can be played as you see fit. I only go solo because I find the sailing aspect relaxing. I've sailed for most of my life, and this is by far the best sailing sim I've come across.

    I've run across galleons and sloops as a solo, and have taken them on. I got beat a few times, other times I won. It's not a guarantee that you're going to lose. I have a certain tactic and strategy that keeps my treasure safe, and my personal sailing experience keeps me ahead of most people who try to attack my ship.

    I'm not bragging here, but most people here are gamers, are not sailors, but probably have learned some basic sailing mechanics from this game. A sloop can solo a galleon, but it's very difficult, and you've got to know what you're doing.

    I've been helped three times by three different crews, all galleons. One wanted me to watch over them as they took on a skele fort. I took on a galleon that was trying to take advantage of them, but drove it off. And then when I soloed an island the galleon crew drove off the same other galleon. It's give and take.

    I think there are some newer and younger gamers who might be a bit naïve or trusting when soloing, and that's too bad, but that shouldn't stop them from exploring on their own.

    And the game knows when you're soloing, and knows when you need to be put on a server with fewer ships. So it's not like you're automatically open to attack when going solo. The more experienced you are, the more the game understands your skill level.

    And newer players who get a bad experience know better the next time they weigh anchor.

    I think it's a really fun and relaxing game, and to be honest probably meant for younger players, not old guys like me. But I'm having fun with it.

    I think maybe you might want to think about the tone of your post, and maybe rethink why you purchased this game and why you play it.

  • Here he goes again. Winning about solo players and spamming the forums with his “teachings lessons”. About willing to teach us in all your greatness, thanks but no thanks. Apparently your moral compass doesn’t point the same direction as mine. The title of your post suggests you actively hunt down solo players, if that’s the case, maybe your not as good as you think you are.
    I play 70% solo and no I don’t mind the pvp aspect of the game. I do mind the mindless sinking of a ship like what happens last week. On my way to an outpost I run into a galleon. I managed to outrun them and got the chest to the outpost. Jumped back on my ship an there was the galleon. Got blown out of the water even there was no chest on my ship. Pointless killing. I think many solo players have a problem with that and not because they are killed for the loot. I know I do.

  • @madmich-be said in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    Here he goes again. Winning about solo players and spamming the forums with his “teachings lessons”. About willing to teach us in all your greatness, thanks but no thanks. Apparently your moral compass doesn’t point the same direction as mine. The title of your post suggests you actively hunt down solo players, if that’s the case, maybe your not as good as you think you are.
    I play 70% solo and no I don’t mind the pvp aspect of the game. I do mind the mindless sinking of a ship like what happens last week. On my way to an outpost I run into a galleon. I managed to outrun them and got the chest to the outpost. Jumped back on my ship an there was the galleon. Got blown out of the water even there was no chest on my ship. Pointless killing. I think many solo players have a problem with that and not because they are killed for the loot. I know I do.

    Just the other night I turned in four or five chests, and emptied my ships cargo when a galleon pulled into port. I fought for while for the fun of it, but my treasure was safely cashed in, so ... what are these guys expecting? They got what they deserved after killing me a few times, which was nothing. But I didn't get angry or anything. I mean the game is called "Sea of Thieves"....we're all pirates in this thing, so it's no big deal.

    I mean I prefer friendly sailors, but the game is what it is, so let people have fun either way. Soloing, PVP, helping or attacking.

    Either way, I'm cool with it.

  • @madmich-be I guess I understand pointless PVP kills. Years back I used to do another MMORPG, and PVP was kept to certain areas to prevent people from each other and ruining the game for new players or people who liked more casual gaming.

    It might be a thing for Rare to look into, create a casual server or something.

  • @GeNeReDeR The only reason that you see only those types of stories, is that the good solo people are playing the game, not crying about their losses. I don't know why I'm on here, should get back to SoT.

  • @fantome-of-blue

    Last post went wrong.

    I get it but it’s called sea of thief’s not sea of killers. Yes the game is what it is but isn’t it about the loot? You can board me when I’m at the outpost and steal my loot or resources, I don’t mind. It’s fair game at that point and I don’t have any problem with that at all but fair to say sometimes is just pointless.

  • @genereder Really? Another PVP player getting pd off? I cant figure it out....

  • /throws his bananas and cannon balls in the air. Bangs head against board/

  • @drewbob7 said in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    @GeNeReDeR THe only reason that you see only those types of stories, is that the good solo people are playing the game, not crying about their losses. I don't know why I'm on here, should get back to SoT.

    Thank you! Thank you so much! Your words is what i was waiting for! Thats what i try to proof!

    Ive been in this forum for about 2 weeks now and 70% of what is here to be found the same 5 stupid suggestion over and over and over, that either make no sense, break the game (and or its freedom), or my very favourite keeps people occupied in the toxiest way possible... too few people have understood what this game is about and how strategies go etc...

    You clearly have so thank you! Im gonna go play some solo now too lol

  • @fantome-of-blue

    I understand what your saying but I’m not in favor for different servers. It would take the trill out of the game. Getting chased by a ship for your loot is exiting and fun. I think if everyone on the sea has a little respect and a good moral compass what to do and what not to do we wouldn’t have this conversation. But that’s just my opinion.
    To be clear, solo playing is hard mode. It’s hard and sometimes frustrating but it’s so rewarding if you succeed in your mission. OP says this game isn’t made for solo playing, yes it is and I love it.

  • @madmich-be Yeah, to me it's a good casual game that can put you on the edge of your seat.

    I tend to like this game better than something like CSGO or some other shooter like Insurgency, because you're not under tension all the time. But when being chased or having to exchange canon fire, then you can get excited and enjoy the combat.

    It would be nice if obnoxious players could follow the behavior guidelines.

  • @genereder said in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    @katttruewalker said in This is why we sink every solo sloop we can find::

    @genereder If you'd now like the thread closed down, let us know, as discussion may have run it's course.

    No its fine thank you i can handle some internet forum usual ;) i would rather like to hear more people and maybe somebody answers to my question: why is the same statemant either constructive not looked at at all but the very same yet salty yelled at?

    I was just on my phone at work and clicked Recent topics. This one was at the top at the time. I more or less just wanted to agree that people need to stop whining about losing stuff. So I gave a positive recent story of solo slooping. In other topics I sometimes try to give advice to help prevent getting sunk or robbed.

    In general I find it very hard to get sunk unless I die from a cannonball on the sloop. Draining the water at the window is just way too easy and fast. You can see people you hear boarding from there too and a pistol shot takes care of that.

  • Sank 2 more galleons last night as a solo Slooper.
    One went down with cannonballs and i took one hit.
    The other one, we took some shots at each other while sailing, they broke away and went to the outpost. Another sloop showed up before i could swing around, repair and get over there ( a couple younger kids I actually talked to earlier that session and did not fight) and the galleon attacked them so i rammed the galleon and jumped off with a keg and blew them up.

    2 Galleons dead. I was chasing a third that had a skull fort key and d/c'ed.
    Bottom line is, the Galleon does not just automatically win out. Galleons are just as foolish to dismiss Sloops as solo players are complaining about it being hard.

  • Just do what my duo partner and I did.. chase the GALLEON that sank you across the map, sink them, and have them call you a troll ;P

  • solo players who whine about galleons sinking them are just whining about how they are bad. I think the sloop is overpowered because of better manuverability, faster sailing into the wind and a smaller hull reducing hits and letting them fit through smaller spaces

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