Pirate legends are far more than 1% of the player base

@magus104

The only problems they run into here is that they don't want to make so much legend content that it becomes divisive.

They could create something awesome that's exclusive to legends, no doubt. But then what you have is all of the legends off doing their own thing away from the non-legends. So now you have two pools of players based on progression.

So what happens when you make the legend content accessible to all simply by non-legends playing with legends to prevent that divide? Well now you've cheapened the experience and rewards for the legends (i.e, Athenas and the Ghost clothes)

They need to figure out how to implement something that only legends can have while also still making sure that everyone still feels compelled to play together. They tried to do that with Athenas I think, but it just isn't enough as we are all aware.

The whole reason they deferred the captaincy thing indefinitely was because the core game needed a lot of attention. Legend content is something they've been behind on from the beginning due to a need to enrich content that's accessible at the ground level.

Perhaps the Anniversary Update will put them in a good spot to focus on this, and perhaps introduce some short Pirate Legend only Tall Tales series' with legend exclusive rewards.

@chronodusk

The only problems they run into here is that they don't want to make so much legend content that it becomes divisive.

They could create something awesome that's exclusive to legends, no doubt. But then what you have is all of the legends off doing their own thing away from the non-legends. So now you have two pools of players based on progression.

Lets be realistic here, they have a long way before they even remotely run into that problem. I would even add getting PL is also significantly easier to get too, it wouldn't be that long of a time til they get access to this kind of content. Pirate Legends have already been put on the back burner for content for quite a long time. They are long overdue for some content designed for them, and them alone (Looking at you Athena voyages).

I personally feel that pirate legend was a mistake in this game. I feel like a big shot at Microsoft said “we love the sandbox open world aspect but... what do you play for? Remember what happened to No Man Sky?” Someone at Rare “uh well you play to become Legend!” Leaves meeting and tells everyone at development “Guys we need to make a legend cave. Also let’s make this big voyage that gives you all the voyages. That’ll keep them busy. Let’s make it take a stupid amount of time to become Legend. I’m sure no one would figure out how to cheese this! We shouldn’t see a legend for months! I’ve done the numbers one person can’t bring in that much loot in the hours it takes to get it. Let’s stretch out play time as much as we can so we can complete the beta.”

Then we get a Legend in the first week by the player joining crews just before turn in. Good job Rare!

Anyways I feel you should earn rare and special titles by doing amazing things. When you complete these tasks you gain access to the legend cave. Just having Pirate legend above your head doesn’t mean a thing.

@nabberwar

I agree with you, I was just going over what the likely rationale is for things like Athena voyages and ghost clothing being accessible to all players.

I mean at this point with cross play opt out and The Arena coming, I don't see a reason why they couldn't make some short Pirate Legend only Tall Tales series'. Especially with Athenas already being there to keep legends and non legends connected.

@k1lroyw4sh3r3

Spot on with your comments. I have had several friends who only got PL by buying all the levels to get there. Yet, when we play, most the time they are playing a shanty while the sails aren't trimmed, trying to sword lunge off the bow during combat and messing it up due to lack of experience, making poor decisions with gunpowder barrel use/placement, wasting cannonballs, etc... Things that scrubs are made of, and yet they have "Pirate Legend" above their head. It makes me sick.

There are some things that are much harder to deny like sinking 500 skellie ships, sailing 500+ miles on Athena voyages, etc... Even those can be cheesed to a degree, but mostly require a lot of game time/experience.

I do agree, they need more ways to earn rare titles and cosmetics to have multiple ways to achieve unique things.

Rare plays fast and loose with their numbers and even the truth. They cherry pick what numbers to use claiming numbers spun in a way that tells the story the want.

Reality is a respectable player base was gone within weeks of launch. Overwhelming players who try this game pass on it after playing for a short time. Game probably has a few hundred thousand players at high tide with content updates. Has a dwindling core community and that is constantly being recycled with waves of new players and a few dozen zealots.

Rare has been claiming there has been only around 1% Pirate Legends for a very long time. Getting old. Very stale story! Used as a reason/excuse to not grow and expand content for them. In a recent video dev tried to claim the same number, but after stumbling over the answer to the question ended up sloppily saying it is in the single digit percentage. Maybe they do not know. Maybe they do not want us to know.

It was hilarious when the dev claimed that really there was not that many legends at all. That most players are not. That most of their team was not, like he was not. The host asked the audience how many were Pirate Legends. Was shocked that most of the audience and the team were. Sadly it shows the lack of true transparency and honesty.

To top it off now Rare says they are not going to focus on the smaller groups at this time, the “minorities”. Seems the PvP crowd with the bigger crews is what only really matters now to them. Said maybe the rest of us will get attention maybe sometime in the future. Truth is Pirate Legends should matter. Solo sailors should matter. Duo sloopers should matter. PvE loving pirates should matter. All pirates should matter and matter now!

We have small discord community that play SoT together.
Over last yeah there was around 50 active people that played daily, but over time people get their pirate legends, athena 10s
or commendations they wanted, they just stopped playing.

At this moment theres only 5 people that play every day, rest of us switched to other game.

But with upcoming update i believe people come back, there is alot of stuff to do, but still its missing that endgame that would keep people playing for longer time.