Knockouts and Rope ties

@betsill Are you talking about the brig?

@galactic-geek First of all, prisoners don't equal slaves. Second of all, it's not "more or less permanent". It's temporary just like the dance/vomit balls and brig. It's all about funny and social interactions.

If this feature got implemented, it would probably get implemented with some other features like purses and banks to keep your money in. After that stealing some gold from pirates or something along those lines. Maybe we can prevent the pirate to go back to his team so we can ask for x amount of cannonballs/planks/banana's? What are they gonna do? Fight 3v4? Even if they choose to do so, it would give the captured pirate a nice opportunity to escape and ambush them from behind.

If you tie your hands loose they get the choice again to knock you out (which leaves them at risk of getting killed by your sharp weapon instead of a blunt weapon). Or they're gonna think twice and attack you with a sword just to be safe. Maybe knocking someone out a second time requires 3 or 4 hits?

Why would you need a rowboat to escape btw? There are mermaids in this game lad. If you try and "fight off a whole crew by yourself", you get killed and go to the ferry. I really dont see the problem you're making.

@galactic-geek I've read your entire post and ofcourse respect your opinion. But let me get some points from your post and comment on them:

"Now, you gotta go through the hassle of being ridiculed and taunted, and attempting to escape. And worse, there would be nothing stopping them from doing it all over again."
-This is just an assumption. There are tons of ways to prevent it from happening again. Already talking about it being harder for a second KO. Rare has prevented things alike (spawning further from forts so it's harder to harass people that have beaten you), and what about the piece of paper on the ferry (go to options to scuttle ship). Brigging annoying teammates. Who says smart game developers cant think of ways to overcome this?

"say with a 1-hit KO from behind"
-Well this ofcourse is a toxic way of implementing this. What about the blunt weapons taking 2 hits more than a sword to KO/kill someone?

"aside from the things they already get for offing other players (their loot for example), what would be the point?"
-Stealing gold as I said.

"I'm also against the idea of other pirates having the ability to steal the gold I've already rightfully turned in or earned unless I personally choose to take that risk (e.g., like gambling with a poker hand). With your methodology, that choice wouldn't even be up to me."
-Pirates game? I already said purses AND banks. You could store ALL of your gold in the bank. And maybe Rare can give you reason to carry gold in a purse. To buy cosmetics in the shops, grog's in the tavern and maybe give the seaposts unique items so you gotta carry your gold in a purse to get those things. And more can be thought of ofcourse! How wouldnt it be your choice according to me? What else is a bank for? It's the risk you take for some rewards. A purse would enable trading with players as well.

"mark my words: if implemented, the number of quitters and players who drop the game entirely will rise dramatically (higher than the tallest of tidal waves)"
-Well ofcourse. If you assume a lot of things without thinking about it. If you develop things in a toxic way people will leave. But making KO's harder than kills solves most things. Try to KO me while I'm slashing you.

Before you respond with "yes but..." or "but what if it doesnt work because...", please take some time to think for yourself. How COULD it work? It's a cool idea the OP thought of. So how COULD it work. Optimism is what these feedback&suggestion threads are for, not pessimism. I've seen some more of your posts and your mindset is mostly about why things cant work. If we all had this mindset, these threads would go nowhere.

@galactic-geek There are banks in pirates of the caribbean. Pirates used to rob banks.

Instead of banks, if it really is out of line with Rare's vision of pirates, you could hoard your gold in a chest and hide it on an island (and nobody would be able to dig it up). Still a place to hide your gold safe, and still the risk/reward of a purse and it's possibilities.

Pirates didnt use purses? Where do they keep their gold? I guess you could also call it a pouch of gold (sounds more piratey).

Once again, think in solutions.

@galactic-geek Yea and now they could add the function to dig it in the sand and still be there when you log off! :)

My pirate is getting tired of hoarding thousands of gold in his pockets, you know?

On a sidenote, do you know how long it takes before loot despawns? Very curious to know and to apply your tactic.

Why not just disconnect and then rejoin your crew? Easy way to avoid being unconscious or bound.

@sailorkek Well yeah, but it would still be faster than dealing with trying to break free or wake up from unconciousness - you don't even need to exit the entire game, just back to the main menu and then join back from there.

@sailorkek so what is the point then? Kill them and take them out of the battle for a longer period of time so that you can deal with their crew or ship instead.

@sailorkek You don't just add features to a game. The feature has to have a purpose otherwise you are just adding fluff and wasting development resources on things that no one will ever use when you could instead allocate time towards more useful features or bug fixing.

If the time to be bound/knocked out is less than the time it takes to send someone to the ferry and respawn, you're better off killing them and forcing a longer time punishment so you can take their stuff or sink their ship. No one is going to bother using a tie up feature if they can just break out in a few seconds.

If the tie up / knockout feature takes longer than the ferry, people will just disconnect and reconnect so that they respawn back on their boat and don't have to bother dealing with breaking out, running back to their ship to stop you, etc..

It sounds like a fun idea, but its a black hole of wasted development time on a feature that doesn't really provide any useful benefit or interesting gameplay. If this game had persistent player positions and states then it would be worthwhile but in an instanced game world like this one people will just avoid the feature entirely.