Can we make the reaper mark worth something?

  • MONGER OF WAR
    Seafarer

    I think it would be awesome to actually encourage the use of the reaper mark more in the game. Right now its only real in game use is helping people make fleets on PvE servers or scaring away PvE players.

    Some ideas I thought of are as follows.

    1. When you have the reaper mark up a scaling bounty is placed on you. It starts at 0 gold and goes up every 30 minutes. I was thinking maybe 1500gold/30minutes. So if you play for an hour and nobody can sink you you net a extra 3000 gold. But if they do sink you they get gold in the amount you would have gotten. It makes the game more risk vs reward. (should you sink to something like the kraken or a skeleton ship the bounty timer would simply reset. You could collect your bounty rewards from the Pirate Legend NPC in the tavern.)

    or

    1. Once you have had the reaper flag up for 30 minutes you get a buff called "Reaper of the Seas" and this buff increases the value of all items you sell by 20%.

    I think this would make the game a lot more fun and net pirates a few extra coins while doing so.

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  • Hynieth
    Master
    Insider

    It's already worth something to use the reapers mark:

    • The Curse of The Afflicted Helm – Cursed another crews’ ship with Helmball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Enslaving Chain – Curse another crews’ ship with Anchorball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Treacherous Bounty – Curse another crews’ ship with Barrelball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Siren’s Gale – Curse another crews’ ship with Riggingball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Thieves Burden – Curse another crews’ ship with Ballastball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Pacifists Demise – Curse another crews’ ship with Peaceball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • Cursed Voyager – Complete 5 voyages while flying the Reaper’s Mark
    • The Cursed Crews – Complete 1 voyage as a crew flying the Reaper’s Mark while in an Alliance
      Dubloons.
  • BloodyBil
    Legend
    Insider

    @hynieth said in Can we make the reaper mark worth something?:

    It's already worth something to use the reapers mark:

    • The Curse of The Afflicted Helm – Cursed another crews’ ship with Helmball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Enslaving Chain – Curse another crews’ ship with Anchorball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Treacherous Bounty – Curse another crews’ ship with Barrelball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Siren’s Gale – Curse another crews’ ship with Riggingball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Thieves Burden – Curse another crews’ ship with Ballastball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • The Curse of The Pacifists Demise – Curse another crews’ ship with Peaceball while flying the Reaper’s Mark flag
    • Cursed Voyager – Complete 5 voyages while flying the Reaper’s Mark
    • The Cursed Crews – Complete 1 voyage as a crew flying the Reaper’s Mark while in an Alliance
      Dubloons.

    Only once per commendation though.

    I agree with @MONGER-OF-WAR it would be cool to have an incentive for bearing the mark outside of fleet finding or to attract PVP, especially after you have done the commendations. As of now, it's risk with no reward.

    But I can see how hard it could be to balance it properly, and to prevent ways to abuse it if it would go the road of extra gold as bonus. You could hoard loot, wait for the 30 mins mark to come up, then sell all, or let your friends sink you to get the extra gold bonus.

    But some reason to fly it up with extra risk vs reward benefices would totally spice things up.

  • BlindNev
    Captain

    I agree. There is no real point of using it at the moment. If you are looking for pvp, it's better to use a default flag so others won't know your location.

    Also, commendations don't really count. Why add a new mechanic (that is supposed to promote pvp) only for some doubloons? Once you get them, you have no reason to use it again.

  • MONGER OF WAR
    Seafarer

    @hynieth Yes there are a few accomodations to get but that doesnt actually do anything for the players or the game. Accomodations are nice but impactful and involved gameplay should always be the focus.

  • Hynieth
    Master
    Insider

    I see this game as one big sandbox we're dumped in, we get tools and make fun this way.
    The Reapers mark is one of those tools we get to use to make our own fun. Not everything should be there to give some kind of reward. Same thing with different coloured lights. It's pretty and you can have fun with it.

  • Zormis
    Marauder
    Insider

    @monger-of-war We use it all the time so people come find us, we like friendly ship battles but will settle for salty ones as well. We even fly it during athena's that being said I am not against this idea, ship battles are my favorite part of the game and I am for anything that identifies it.

  • SoopaVillain420

    The only thing the reaper flag does, is make other crews avoid you more often.

    We have found this after flying it for a week, seems we have been in less battles than if we flew a vanilla flag. I would be more inclined to have a reward for the crew that takes down a reaper. Even if it isn't too much, just an incentive to go after the guys wanting a ship battle or two.

  • UltmateRagnarok
    Master

    @monger-of-war

    The second option would be an exploit of putting up the flag just before selling.

  • xCALYPT0x
    Master
    Insider
    Boatswain

    @monger-of-war I think #1 works better. Since the flag kind of "promotes" PvP, the mechanic should reflect that. For option #2, the reward is not transferred to the people who engage the reapers mark ship.

    #1 allows for either the reapers mark ship or an attacker to get the reward. I would also add a stipulation that you have to go somewhere to claim the bounty/reward instead of it just being added to you. So after 30 minutes, you get a map showing you where it spawned. Then you go dig it up like any other chest, and it is an item that has to be sold. If you are sunk by another ship while you have it, they can sell it. If you still have the map when they sink you, they get the map.

    IDK. I think some kind of system could work.

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