Private Servers with Progression that is separate from Adventure(PvE) Progression

Private servers with no progression would be a great addition and allow people to learn the game and practice in peace, as well as to organise community events and mini games.

Wanna play in peace? Chill at your pace, with friends, do whatever people supposedly can't achieve on public servers, with access to your current cosmetics, with progression paused for that specific session.

Feel frisky? Take a chance to meet other players (it's never a guarantee you will even meet anyone during a session) and resume your progression for that particular session.

Each mode would have it's pros and cons and wouldn't cannibalise eachother. Why would people care about having separate progression if they never plan to leave the private mode in the first place? Being encouraged to play in public to earn stuff should be a more than enough reasonable compromise to have the choice to play 100% safely at times.

@xx-mirth-xx I’ll look into it

@bloodybil Maybe I just get into bad servers a lot but 9 times out of 10 is dealing with people that do that as I put in my post. And I say increase the rate of ghost ships, krakens, megs etc to make sure it isn’t 100% safe. It just kills the game for me when people keep outpost camping and just lag like no tomorrow

@wr113 What region are you playing from?

@bloodybil NA Region

@ghostpaw That's the only way I would want it and talking with a few others that's how they would want it too. I don't believe in having the two progressions be the same. That would be unfair and unbalanced.

I just see it more being a change for people who are going to "git gud", and a more inviting way for people to play. It wouldn't hurt the PvE players since they don't have to play in that mode and it would turn people off as much to play the game since they only have to deal with the AI and not actual players.

@xx-mirth-xx said in Private Servers with Progression that is separate from Adventure(PvE) Progression:

At this point, you should just join the insider program. It's a completely separate instance and the other players are all insiders and far far far less likely to attack, especially if you ask them not to.

That is some bad advice; it's also not what insiders is for.

Separate or same progression, it won't change the fact that it would still divide the community, and this doesn't seems to be the path the devs want to go down.

Joe Neate: We don't want to split players, we don't want to split player types, the whole identity of sea of thieves is a shared world and the different kind of motivations within it.

Joe Neate: The whole core premise of SOT is that it’s a shared world. To get to Pirate Legend, there will be danger and there will be other players…that’s what SOT has always been, it’s a shared world adventure game…it’s all about a shared world and we have no intention to deviate from that.

@WR113 So about your issues:

• Lookout for mermaids before going to an outpost and you will not be suprised by campers.
• Since you are on NA servers, it's not like you are likely to get sent to faraway distant servers, there are plenty of nearby players to be matched with, if you are lagging out of control 9/10 times, it seems the issue is on your side and it shouldn't be up to Rare to fix it, upgrade your connection.

@wc-mattmon I don't see how by doing this "divide" it will kill the player base. Not everyone wants to do PvP all the time and saying (not that you said it, just seen others say it) don't play the game if you don't like it, is not a good idea to increase playerbase or keep players coming back.

Let the players that want to play PvP, play PvP, and the ones that don't want to do PvP but still want to play the game, play in a private server.

A good example of this is GTA Online. It has a public matchmaking, a closed server with friends and solo. Yet that game keeps going with new content and players. I get that it is a whole different game but the same concept in the end. So just let the ones with a little bit of time play the game on their own (with AI enemies) and not have to deal with PvP if that's what they choose to play.

@bloodybil My Connection is just fine

@wr113 said in Private Servers with Progression that is separate from Adventure(PvE) Progression:

@wc-mattmon I don't see how by doing this "divide" it will kill the player base. Not everyone wants to do PvP all the time and saying (not that you said it, just seen others say it) don't play the game if you don't like it, is not a good idea to increase playerbase or keep players coming back.

they never said it would kill the player base but it would absolutely destroy and go against their grand design of the game and thats what the devs do not want

Let the players that want to play PvP, play PvP, and the ones that don't want to do PvP but still want to play the game, play in a private server.

while players bring the company money but it isn't logical going against the community and their own design just to satisfy a select few

A good example of this is GTA Online. It has a public matchmaking, a closed server with friends and solo. Yet that game keeps going with new content and players. I get that it is a whole different game but the same concept in the end. So just let the ones with a little bit of time play the game on their own (with AI enemies) and not have to deal with PvP if that's what they choose to play.

gta is a terrible example i know TOOOONSSSS of friends who absolutely hate this feature

alot of hardcore gta players to this day hate it and thinks it ruined online

with similar arguement being "whats the point in grand theft if you can't commit theft against the people you play with"

here being "whats the point in being a pirate if i cannot commit piracy"

@JollyOlsteamed

they never said it would kill the player base but it would absolutely destroy and go against their grand design of the game and thats what the devs do not want

Isn't that the same as the game dying. You need a game for a player base and you need a player base for a game to survive. So I took it as killing the player base

Let the players that want to play PvP, play PvP, and the ones that don't want to do PvP but still want to play the game, play in a private server.

while players bring the company money but it isn't logical going against the community and their own design just to satisfy a select few

If it is a select few, that want the servers, then how does that affect the community (PvP).

You let it effect you if you worry about it. The ones that hate the Private Servers will not play the Private Servers and if that is a majority then it wouldn't mess with anything that has already been established for that side of the game.

This is just a piece for people who may not want to jump into a PvP server for that play through, either it being they don't have much time on their hands or want to just play with friends and go against AI.

Like I said, increase spawn of AI enemies, keep two different pirate characters, have them not linked to each other so people can't cheese their way when they go into public.

gta is a terrible example i know TOOOONSSSS of friends who absolutely hate this feature

alot of hardcore gta players to this day hate it and thinks it ruined online

with similar arguement being "whats the point in grand theft if you can't commit theft against the people you play with"

here being "whats the point in being a pirate if i cannot commit piracy"

Yet it, people keep playing GTA Online and they don't let it ruin their fun. I play in the public matchmaking for GTA Online and there are still a ton of people playing it.

Private server. Sure as long you can’t invite friends and stuff. Because that be pointless fun

Sailing the sea with friends and fighting only npc and really nothing to worry about. Some find that fun I guess

@burnbacon Yes some do find it fun just like people find it fun to do PvP.

Just let people have the fun that they want to have. They more than likely wouldn't play in the PvP part and more than likely the PvP players won't jump ship and just do PvE.

@Ghostpaw

The only way this project could still retain what makes it special is to allow player determined to play n safety is to have a personal server where there is no progression, or progress does not carry over to public servers. They should not even show up on leaderboards or receive achievements. Minecraft turns off all achievements for realms as soon as they break the seal on creative mode. Other games work similarly. Also, bug fixes and development on private servers would have to take a backseat to the public ones. If they ever consider private servers, it is the only way SoT would retain its essence.

I see that to be completely fair. Turn off the Achievements, have Privates servers keep progression separate from Public servers, and turn off the leaderboards. Completely fine with all of that.

@schwammlgott said in Private Servers with Progression that is separate from Adventure(PvE) Progression:

@wr113 not everyone wants to PvP all the time?
Learn to avoid other ships and you will see how calm the seas really are...I'm getting attacked maybe every 10th session or so, because I know how to avoid them

This. You should adapt yourself to the game, not the other way around. Otherwise there is always GTA, which seems to fit the exact type of gameplay OP is looking for.

@wc-mattmon Again, that is why I say increase spawn rates of the AI. People get turned off by PvP just like people get turned off by just PvE. But this feature is just for those who do not want to deal with PvP. And again as I have said, have the progression in PvE not carry over to PvP that way people don't cheese it. Reading through posts on here and videos on Youtube, people just want to deal with the PvE side of things and not with the PvP side. People get tired of the Griefers and the spawn kills so they just want to deal with the AI side. This is just for the players who just want to play they way they want to play. Again, PvP players will keep playing the PvP side and the one that don't play PvP will play the PvE side. And that's not saying that people who play the PvE side won't try out the PvP side. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

In the end it boils down to the fact that when you don't want to deal with PVP, you don't buy a game that is 50% PVP. Lesson learned.

@bloodybil Then just have a spot that doesn't have that 50% PvP. Let people enjoy the other 50% part and if they don't like it, then go back to the PvP

@xx-mirth-xx said in Private Servers with Progression that is separate from Adventure(PvE) Progression:

@lem0n-curry why?

@WR113 wants progression, I assume he wants to keep his progression. In insider your character can be reset. He'll lose more than from a "blood thirsty crew of PvP'ers" in the normal Adventure version

I think this is as much as I can discuss about Insiders.

@wr113 said in Private Servers with Progression that is separate from Adventure(PvE) Progression:

@bloodybil Then just have a spot that doesn't have that 50% PvP. Let people enjoy the other 50% part and if they don't like it, then go back to the PvP

Nope, the game is PVEVP and the devs have stated many time that this is exactly how they want the game to go and that they never presented it otherwise. If you don't want to accept that you can go back to play other games that suits your style better.