Need a system to opt out of PVP

  • There needs to be a system implemented to stop the constant PVP when its not needed. Me and a buddy were just going about our business and for no reason what so ever another ship came and sank us. My friend and I respawn and get our new ship only to be bombarded by the same [mod edit] that got us the first time. We had NOTHING on the ship and freshly spawned at that. The first time I can understand, but the second time within 5 minutes we were attacked again, REALLY? There needs to be an option to opt out of PVP. Stuff like this is what makes these game no fun to play. When we don't encounter any other ships, we have loads of fun, but as soon as one of these people just sink us for the 'luls' it loses the fun factor and becomes much less enjoyable.

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  • Welcome to the forums! Honored to reply to your very first post.

    There needs to be a system implemented to stop the constant PVP when its not needed.

    Let me guess, you are the judge on whether it's needed or not?

    Me and a buddy were just going about our business and for no reason what so ever another ship came and sank us.

    How about robbing people in a game named Sea of Thieves? Doesn't sound too far-fetched of a reason to me.

    My friend and I respawn and get our new ship only to be bombarded by the same asshats that got us the first time. We had NOTHING on the ship and freshly spawned at that. The first time I can understand, but the second time within 5 minutes we were attacked again, REALLY? There needs to be an option to opt out of PVP. Stuff like this is what makes these game no fun to play.

    At that point switch server if the same crew bothers you that much.

    When we don't encounter any other ships, we have loads of fun, but as soon as one of these people just sink us for the 'luls' it loses the fun factor and becomes much less enjoyable.

    I'm sorry you don't like the PVP aspect of this PVEVP game but the premise of the game is plastered everywhere in the shop, reviews, trailers: you will face other crews, you will face AI threats.

    Here's what the design director of the game thinks about PVE servers:

  • Some crews enjoy PvP regardless if the target is carrying loot or not. Some crews don't know if the target ship has loot aboard until they confirm for themselves. I understand your frustration, I've been there, and it's a learning process. Other people's fun can unfortunately result in your fun getting spoiled.

    Sea of Thieves is a PvEvP experience. My crew prefers the PvE content above all else, but in order to survive we've had to learn how to PvP. At the moment in this game's current state you can't have one without the other.

    I hope you'll have better luck in the future, happy sailing!

  • @bloodybil the problem is there is absolutely NO question what the ship on the horizon is up to. It is headed your way to destroy the last 4 hours of progress you have attempted to make. Due to the fact there is no passive mode or way to avoid players whos only joy in life is to ruin someone else's good time.

  • @lineman935dbc this is overly dramatic and untrue. I think it has been something like 3 or 4 sessions, so at least 15 hours of olay time, since anyone even approached our ship. This despite seeing numerous sails on the horizon.

    If you want pve servers it is your perogative to argue for them. But blatently exaggerating the problem is not going to win you any points or convince anyone.

  • I am uterly uninterested in what you believe. If you have gone 15 hours without being attacked we aren't even playing the same game. And you have already found passive mode. I simply shared my experience as it happened. I fully believe you would be the type of person to troll others online as you have no problem trying to argue with someone on a forum.

  • @lineman935dbc said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bloodybil the problem is there is absolutely NO question what the ship on the horizon is up to. It is headed your way to destroy the last 4 hours of progress you have attempted to make. Due to the fact there is no passive mode or way to avoid players whos only joy in life is to ruin someone else's good time.

    Keep an eye on the horizon, be prepared to fight or flee, sell often to avoid losing too much. Be more resourceful, be more pirate. If others can do it, so can you.

  • Neither extreme, all out PvE or aggressive PvP is desirable. If we all started to play SoT as aggressive PvPers with barrels full of cannon balls and no loot what a pathetic game it would quickly become. Similarly, if we all played passive PvE this would be a game of very limited shelf life. We need the mix but this does mean that those players that only play to sink and kill by whatever means aren’t actually contributing to the overall game. Everyone should have something to loose. This game is way too easy if you only play to steal and kill.

  • @conquerjm To opt out go to:

    Start Menu, then to settings and to apps.
    Then you klick on Sea of Thieves and klick uninstall.

    Also, there's a handy dandy search function on the forums.
    I'll post a screenshot of it for you convenience.

  • I opt out of this discussions.
    Please help me, they are trolling the forums.

  • @conquerjm i am sorry for your poor experience but you should start use a mic and communicate with other ships. I've got many stories when i met other pirates with my crew. It isn't always pvp until you rage quit. f.e.
    -Once a time as a galleon we meet solo brig. The pirate on a brig was doing some missions and said that if we don't sink his ship he will give us his whole resources and one chest. We agreed. He could end his quest but his difficuilty level raised to maximum.
    -Once a time we did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTlzHT2Uhxk&
    -Once a time we just jump on another ship to play shanties and drink grog.

    Try to have other attitude than running away and it will payback with new experiences.

  • @bugaboo-bill said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    I opt out of this discussions.
    Please help me, they are trolling the forums.

    Bill you know better then that!

    This guys a newbie, first loss is brutal and then the boat hunting them down and killing them again cus u can tell they are noobs sounds exactly like this community! I fully believe this post and with everyone’s replies is not hard to see why!

  • @avecrux said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @conquerjm i am sorry for your poor experience but you should start use a mic and communicate with other ships. I've got many stories when i met other pirates with my crew. It isn't always pvp until you rage quit. f.e.
    -Once a time as a galleon we meet solo brig. The pirate on a brig was doing some missions and said that if we don't sink his ship he will give us his whole resources and one chest. We agreed. He could end his quest but his difficuilty level raised to maximum.
    -Once a time we did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTlzHT2Uhxk&
    -Once a time we just jump on another ship to play shanties and drink grog.

    Try to have other attitude than running away and it will payback with new experiences.

    Literally the worse advice not only now is he gunna be robbed every encounter now he’s gunna find the true community spirit behind this game and we need all the friendly players we can get!

  • @itskingbertie what i found is that, people who are silent for me are #1 target. Those who can talk to me aren't being attacked at first sight.

  • @Conquerjm @LineMan935DBC

    give it a read...

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/93355/the-sea-of-thieves-need-no-change

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/93061/a-message-to-all-pirates-who-got-salty-over-loosing-loot

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/93507/poll-adventure-mode-pvp

  • @hynieth said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @conquerjm To opt out go to:

    Start Menu, then to settings and to apps.
    Then you klick on Sea of Thieves and klick uninstall.

    I second this. The opt out function for the PvP mechanic of Sea of Thieves is uninstalling it.

  • @capt-shrkb8 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Some crews enjoy PvP regardless if the target is carrying loot or not. Some crews don't know if the target ship has loot aboard until they confirm for themselves. I understand your frustration, I've been there, and it's a learning process. Other people's fun can unfortunately result in your fun getting spoiled.

    Sea of Thieves is a PvEvP experience. My crew prefers the PvE content above all else, but in order to survive we've had to learn how to PvP. At the moment in this game's current state you can't have one without the other.

    I hope you'll have better luck in the future, happy sailing!

    Amen, hence why i have 3 PvPvE-ers in my crew while i'm myself a PvE-er (aka captain).

    Although i must say we have less and less PvP on the seas unless we initialise it first, last wednesday for example we had 1 pvp encounter with an other Galleon (them sailing with the Jolly Roger) (in 6 hours of sailing), but only after we chased them for a few min. (They sonk in seconds, prob explains why we just needed a few min to get to them).

    Could be that it's quieter in Europe or maybe because we are on a galleon but we often we only have PvE experiences during the evenings we sail.

  • @lineman935dbc said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @bloodybil the problem is there is absolutely NO question what the ship on the horizon is up to. It is headed your way to destroy the last 4 hours of progress you have attempted to make. Due to the fact there is no passive mode or way to avoid players whos only joy in life is to ruin someone else's good time.

    Question :
    During your 4 hours of gathering loot, did you see other ships that have left you alone, were passive and peacefull?

    Also for @Conquerjm
    What about the total experience?
    How many ships you have spottet on the horizon that were not heading for you to kill on sight?

    Possible overreaction and exageration because of sour looser?

    Be honest, i am too.
    The overall experience is not hostile and trolls all the time trying to sink you.
    It happens and at best you both aproach it playfull, fun orientated and dont take it too serious if you loose, because it's a game.
    If someone is trashtalking and even insulting report for sure.

    Horizontal progression makes it anyway not affecting you or anyone else if you loose.

    If you dislike PvP for whatever reason, no need to justify, this game is just not for you, because it's a PvPvE sandbox game.

    I also dont ask for PvP in a pure coop pve game.
    And i like pure PvE coop games!

    But i also like some PvP and the uncertainty about other players sails on the horizon what is a core element of SoT.

    Play on Alliance Servers, find people who lock down entire servers to ally and farm PvE the whole time.

    To me it's boring like hell, but i dont rate about that.
    Everyone to their own.

    The thing about PvE servers is that there is then not that much uncertainty about players in Adventure mode.
    They are all hostile then.
    That's what your assume it is already, but my and many others experience is very well balanced about friendly and hostile players.

    See the linked topics in my post above.

  • Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

  • @walperr said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @hynieth said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @conquerjm To opt out go to:

    Start Menu, then to settings and to apps.
    Then you klick on Sea of Thieves and klick uninstall.

    I second this. The opt out function for the PvP mechanic of Sea of Thieves is uninstalling it.

    I often find a lot of players want PVE players on the server so this doesn’t become a PVP game so do you like the PVPVE aspect or do you just want an arena without treasure cus if all PVE players left surely the seas would be only hostile not even a sniff of a friendly player with loot for you to steal?!

  • @itskingbertie
    This is not true. I am hostile and i always have more loot on board than 95% of tthe pve players i sink

  • @conquerjm you're obviously new here, so welcome to the forum and thanks for your "feedback". But the answer is no. For the same hundreds of reasons that have been explained ad nauseam in this forum at least every other day.

  • SSDD.

    Personally I don't want pve only play. I rather enjoy sending would-be terrors of the sea to the bottom when they come to leech off the work I've done to generate loot in the world.

    That said, I don't see why the PVP purists on this forum are so opposed. Lots of games have both, and do fine. It would likely lead to having more players overall which is only a good thing.

    I mean, theres a ton of us who do appreciate the PVEVP nature of the game and I can't see how the existence of an option so many of us woudn't use would actually hurt us.

  • @nwo-azcrack said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @itskingbertie
    This is not true. I am hostile and i always have more loot on board than 95% of tthe pve players i sink

    True for me too.

    We barely seek for PvP only, but if it happens we also dont run. But welcome a good fight, not because we are PLA10, a good old online play friend is level 10 or even lower, he doesnt care for progression, he want interaction with the E and the P or both :-D

    We mainly pve, because you have barely another option because PvP needs time to find someone.
    So we do PvE and if we have the opportunity and are in the mood we maybe attack.
    But most of the PvP what we have is at Forts and defending, nit attacking.
    We are perfectly mixed mode players, we like to pve and also like to PvP and pvp just happens sometimes and not all the time and this is fairly balanced as it is imho.

  • @conquerjm Your post has been edited as it goes against the Forum Rules and Pirate Code.

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    Thank you.

  • @viperishemu2992 said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    Whatever one's reasoning the fact remains that there is a large demand for some type of PvE only or Private Server Mode on this (and other) forums.

    Demand which is a result of incompetence, negligence and overall lack of skill on the part of PVE community. I can offer my support to help sailors become better, alas I can't sympathize with the reason they try to justify their demands with.

  • Another one-post wonder.

  • @genuine-heather Got your Bingo card ready?

    One post wonder

    Not using search functions

    Insults

    Caps

    PvP vs PvE

    Crossplay

    Using the word Need a lot

    Asking for past earned cosmetics

    Has [Mod Edited] in the post.

    OP Never replies after initial post.

    Little to no upvotes

  • @conquerjm said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    There needs to be a system implemented to stop the constant PVP when its not needed. Me and a buddy were just going about our business and for no reason what so ever another ship came and sank us. My friend and I respawn and get our new ship only to be bombarded by the same [mod edit] that got us the first time. We had NOTHING on the ship and freshly spawned at that. The first time I can understand, but the second time within 5 minutes we were attacked again, REALLY? There needs to be an option to opt out of PVP. Stuff like this is what makes these game no fun to play. When we don't encounter any other ships, we have loads of fun, but as soon as one of these people just sink us for the 'luls' it loses the fun factor and becomes much less enjoyable.

    in the words of the ferryman try hard to stay alive

  • @hynieth said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    @genuine-heather Got your Bingo card ready?

    One post wonder

    Not using search functions

    Insults

    Caps

    PvP vs PvE

    Crossplay

    Using the word Need a lot

    Asking for past earned cosmetics

    Has [Mod Edited] in the post.

    OP Never replies after initial post.

    Little to no upvotes

    aye I got a bingo

  • @conquerjm said in Need a system to opt out of PVP:

    We had NOTHING on the ship and freshly spawned at that. >

    u probably had supplies on ur ship. alot of times I sink a ship, it is so I can steal their supplies or spawn flotsam.

    if u press the set sail button, ur fair game to sink in my book.

  • @conquerjm

    If a ship is coming to sink you they don't know what's going on. I was duoing a brigantine with my friend yesterday, who has an obsession with putting gunpowder kegs on other ships. We see this random galleon, and he wants to cannon himself at it to hide on it, just to mess with them for a bit. Then they sail away somewhat, so he has us chase them down and we blow up their ship after they try to fire at us. Then they come right back, while we are sailing back off to the outpost, so we keg and sink them again. Then they come back for a third time and we don't do anything, just riggingball them and they harpoon the ships together, and then they kill us repeatedly while we offer their treasure back. So we kill them again, sell the treasure, and leave the server. We decided not to kill them again at first because it causes this post to happen again, and again, and again and again for as long as there are players in the game. But if the ship decides to come back for revenge against the crew who sunk them in about 30 seconds, then they will sink again. Often times the ship who wins was going about their own business anyways, and then the newer players decided "oh look, we should sink that ship because it's there" and get annoyed when that ship has a similar mentality since they are in the way.

  • I am sorry I haven't replied. I'm not salty at the fact I was sunk and lost my loot, I understand that is part of the game. The thing I'm salty over is the fact that shortly after a fresh spawn the jerks came at us again and sunk us for nothing. They didn't take our supplies or anything, just sunk us. I did try to communicate to them and they just ignored me. All I am saying is a little protection for a fresh spawn or something. Not a PvE mode or a passive mode. I never once mentioned PvE or Passive mode in my initial post.

  • @conquerjm Welcome to the feedback forum friend. For what its worth I don't think your post was out of line, but some here bristle at any notion of any kind of change to the PVP part of the game.

  • @bloodybil your comments have become my favorite to read :D LOL

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