A message to all Pirates who got salty over loosing loot.

ye but when i fishing for 2 hours and then someone sink me before i made it to the seapost, its time to close the game :D

@Weedstar-DeLuxe

I understand thaty it's not that it doesnt happen to me as well and i call it a day.
But honestly, it all comes by the time and the day you have it what you wanted is happy reward day.
I am not greedy or want things fast.
The longer it takes the more meaning it has to me, because the more stories had happened.

@ItsKingBertie
I also like to progress, bit i do never focus on it.
It happens by the way.
If i focus on progressing i miss a lot imho and i cannot deal that good with losses, because my main goal is to progress.
But my main goal is having fun playing the game and wins or losses and progress is something that happens by the way.

And by the way a MP PvP sandbox is never balanced.
The players who organize themself the best are always having an advantage.
That's a core element of sandbox games, player organisation.
And you need not organize 500 to deal with the goon swam, only 3 friends to man a Galleone or 2 for a Brigantine ;-)

@princes-lettuce sagte in A message to all Pirates who got salty over loosing loot.:

I agree that the game becomes a lot more fun when you let go of the obsession with loot. I learned this by playing the insider program. I got a new pirate, who owned nothing, and knew that my progression would be reset after a few weeks. While playing the insider program, the game became 100% about the experience, not about the loot. It became less stressful, and really allowed me to enjoy the beautiful sights, the unexpected loot on random islands, the freedom.

However, I'm still very disappointed in the Sea of Thieves community. Pvp is not about fun pirate battles, it's about griefing, camping, harassing.. just bothering people because you're bored. I play a lot of online games and I've never seen more annoying players than on the Sea of Thieves. I'm not necessarily against the existence of pvp in this game, but I would honestly enjoy the option to opt out of it every now and then for this reason.

So true, thanks for this reply.
I made another thread about a code of honor for PvPirates.
Unfortunately a lot of pvpers didnt agree and they are out to kill you and dont care about you.
They arent playing with you, but aproach it selfish and less empathic about their fellow players.
Sad but true.
I'm allways empathic and would always show mercy and weigh what i can do, what i should do or better not do, what is still playfull and dont make the other ragequit.
Read by yourself if you want.

https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/93010/code-of-honor-for-pvpirates/39

@BlazeDrake100 thanks :-)

When i was a Pen&Paper GM i had a group only playing.
Roleplaying the whole time.
I made my notices and at the end of each session i awarded xp and players leveld their skills etc.
The players also got rewarded on the way with items for example.
But killing an Orc wouldnt you give xp to rank up instantly, instead i noticed it and players never know what actions give them xp.
I can also decide to not give xp to kill that generous, sleeping Orc what is no threat and nothing the character learns from if he kill it.
So, this said people "played" and didnt care that much for xp, they interacted, roleplayed and of course wanted to progress and got rewarded, but it is seconded and something they didnt miss while playing and also forget about it while they were playing. They focussed on theor characters authenticity and immersion etc...
Great experience.
Progression seconded!

I had another group, some were asking me if this or that action wouldn't give xp and why not get this reward instant to improve their character while playing. I was in doubt if that is a good idea, but ok lets try it i said and in the following i even adjusted the adventures i had written to this and for example created encounters what were hard and only manageable if the characters level up during the session.
Like level to kill the big boss at the end.
It became a mess after a while.
People knew my method to award actions and what and how many xp they got for this or that.
Guess what happened!?
They start to game the system.
"I need to find 2 more Orks to level my swordskill up"
Roleplay got seconded, tweaking your build and becoming efficient was the way to go.
I was guilty by myself i even adapted to it when i restructured my adventures with harder endbosses for example.

In the end i can say the second group was not that much fun or roleplayish. It also lastet not that long as it lost this playful aspect and became gaming the system more and more and less roleplaying.

The moment players start online roleplaying the Exel Warriors took over.
They dont roleplay, they take the rules of the systems about the numbers only and start tweaking around. Creating a build for a Character to be efficient isnt roleplaying to be honest.
Progressing isnt roleplaying.
People cant let go their performanced focussed aproach gaming and dont play a game, they are constantly performing on a higher faster further basis and completely miss to roleplay, immerse and keep it real with their characters.

They only have fun striving and performing to get better and miss to really play.
Playing instead means it has no purpose, no set goal, but to have fun and to let it happen by the way.
A roleplayer will always weigh to stick to his characters role and therefore maybe do stoopid, ineffective things more than to be effective and loose his characters authenticity.
That's the difference of a gamer and a player to me.
The gamer games the system.
He strives for efficency, work things off, set goals and starts to perform.
A player immerse, identify himself with the character, slips into that role and starts his journey.

Most games are made for gamers and Exel Warriors.
Very less games are for players.
And to find likeminded players who still can play without any performance focus is very hard.
Its the time of the strivers, gamers who game systems and exploiting is a good thing.
Circumvent game mechanics and speedrun.
It's not about playing the game, it's about to become first, best, strongest, fastest, mightiest...

It's less fun to fight against people in a game who take it that serious and aproach the game performanced focussed.
Remembers me allways of my own child and myself as a child when we had to learn it's about participation and not winning or loosing.
And for RPG it's not about becoming better, but roleplaying and the adventures.
In competetive games you need for sure to become better and it's part of it, but to focus on this and not second it is missing the concept and sooner or later lead to dislike the game and become disappointed because you didnt get it what it is about and aimed for the wrong things.