Finally had an AFK troll and we need a kick button.

@dutrah The fact that a kick button would absolutely be used as a "troll" button is reason enough to not have it.

Imagine the flip side of this. You join a crew eager to earn lots of gold and rep, then moments before handing in all that loot, boom, you're kicked just for a cheap laugh or because the crew want to give the loot to a friend who wasn't available to play earlier. That would be horrible and I'm certain we'd see plenty of complaints to remove the kick feature as soon as it goes in!

The way I see it, it's the lesser of two evils. On the one hand someone gets loot for doing nothing, which it unfair and certainly needs to be addressed, somehow. On the other players can (will) be kicked unfairly during their voyages meaning someone who has put in the effort now gets denied their loot.

The system we have now needs improving, but frankly at least what we have now means that those who put in the effort still get the reward, despite the annoyance of someone undeserving also getting it. But I'd much rather see that than the alternative you're suggesting.

Some folk have suggested being auto-kicked if you remain on the ferry for too long. I see this as a possible solution. If the player has truly gone AFK, you brig them, kill them with a keg, then leave them on the ferry until they're kicked after a certain time whether or not any movement of their character has been detected. A genuine player will obviously not linger on the ferry so long as to be kicked and this would also help to negate the abuse I mention above. In all these months, this to me has been the best solution I've see so far...

@dutrah said in Finally had an AFK troll and we need a kick button.:

@luciansanchez82 @WeakDexx He died a few times in the journey, boiled with hot water and guess what... he came back to the brig every single time! If we had this Ferry kick working it wouldn't get him since he was respawning every single time. We don't have any tools to deal with this kind of people right now, today it was my crew tomorrow it might be yours.
When you join a public session you have to be aware of what might happen. The other day I joined just to be sent to the brig and had some people laughing at it, I just quit and searched for another session. It happens. But man if I had been kicked by three other players in the end of an Athenas I wouldn't feel terrible as I do for the two other people that had this experience today. Usually I play with friends, sad to know that these things still happen in open crews.

I'm really not sure that many players would agree with you there. You'd rather lose 1-2 hours worth of gold rep that you fairly worked for rather than get the rep/gold at the expense of one AFK player? I not saying it's acceptable, and I wish I could think of a proper solution (I'm sure Rare do to), but the AFK leech getting paid of anothers work is much more preferable to those poor souls who will genuinely put in the effort just to be kicked from the game at the end.

Yes going in to a public game you have to accept these certain risks, the same could be said for possible AFK players. But it don't see it as fair that players should have to start a game accepting the risk that they may well be kicked from the game, getting nothing after actually working and helping to amass that loot.

Like I say, it's the lesser of two evils. Really the only proper solution we have right now is to stick with playing with your friends and not use the open option. That's the only sure fire way to avoid AFK or other toxic crew mates.

@dutrah I do agree matey, it is an issue that needs a better solution than what we have now. AFK players are the bane of most online games these days. A big difference I feel this has to many is that innocent players have a lot more to lose with regards to time spent in game and the fact you're only rewarded for your time by cashing in. The brig is terrible when it comes to AFK, and was put in place more as a way to manage toxic players who had the intention of disrupting a crews play time (those who join to throw treasure over-board, or keg their own ship). Dealing with the AFK issue really is a tough one to balance in a game like this.