The Hourglass PvP problem

the PvP should be at least fair, and in this case, the matchmaking should be based on the skills of the player which plays it

As you said. It’s pvp on demand. Not a mode, not arena. Your still part of the open world, where if you came across a random player, it be the same result if used with hourglass.

If you come across a player without hourglass helping you, is it fair you sink them quickly not knowing there skill so called level?

Open world, it all random chance.

there are to much players that insult you after they killed you or sunk your ship and after that brutally insult you with textual chat or voice chat

Tools provided. Mute chat, mute text messages.

second problem, the hackers:

Mods. Yes them seagulls puke of the sea. But rare has said time and time again, they are aware and working on it. Report them and move on. Also, it seems majority are only during hourglass, soo….stay away from that

I don't know what happened to the players against me. But my opponent is either a lose farmer or a cheater.

@burnbacon

As you said. It’s pvp on demand. Not a mode, not arena. Your still part of the open world, where if you came across a random player, it be the same result if used with hourglass.

If you come across a player without hourglass helping you, is it fair you sink them quickly not knowing there skill so called level?

Open world, it all random chance.

of course, you're still part of the open world, but that doesn't remove the fact that PvP on demand still has a sort of matchmaking system; by having that, it makes the hourglass a sort of sub-mode, a thing similar to arena but smaller. since it's similar to arena but smaller, it can be considered as a mode, and because of that it need(like arena needed) a change to the matchmaking system.
and yes, if you are just in the open world it's completly fair to sink a ship without knowing his skill level, after all the game insert you in a random server without considering the skills of the entire server's players; that's the base of an open adventure map, you're not gonna know what ships you are going to meet or their skill levels, and that's the fun part, the element of surprise.
but! with the hourglass things change a lot. since we can consider it a sub-mode, it posses a matchmaking system, and diffrently from the open world, it shouldn't be random because you are certainly engaging a match against someone else; because of that, the battle should be as fair as possible, so the matchmaking should calculate all sort of data from the player to find the most same skilled opponent to fight.
but, what if you intended the people that enter in the fight of someone else? well about that, the hourglass is still a sub-mode, and it's still hosted into the open world map, so there's still the chance of someone entering the fight ring. a sub-mode is not a mode itself, but it's a ramification of another game mode, so that means it add or change something in the normal gameplay of the gamemode where it's hosted; in this case hourglass is a sub-mode of adventure-mode. so it is fair if someone enter your fight, because you are still in the open world after all and ships can go where they want( and beside, it wouldn't be so good to block the access to other ships to the fighing area).

(sorry if i took too much time to write this answer)

@burnbacon sagte in The Hourglass PvP problem:

the PvP should be at least fair, and in this case, the matchmaking should be based on the skills of the player which plays it

As you said. It’s pvp on demand. Not a mode, not arena. Your still part of the open world, where if you came across a random player, it be the same result if used with hourglass.

If you come across a player without hourglass helping you, is it fair you sink them quickly not knowing there skill so called level?

Open world, it all random chance.

there are to much players that insult you after they killed you or sunk your ship and after that brutally insult you with textual chat or voice chat

Tools provided. Mute chat, mute text messages.

second problem, the hackers:

Mods. Yes them seagulls puke of the sea. But rare has said time and time again, they are aware and working on it. Report them and move on. Also, it seems majority are only during hourglass, soo….stay away from that

@r4pha-sot
Why should you stay away from this mode just because they are not able to fix the issue? It's like you raise the white flag and give up to these disgusting people. They just have to prioritise it more because lots of the adventure players have cheats too, they may just don't show them. We need an anticheat and a working ban-system aswell as a faster report system to get them shadowbanned if they get multiple reports about one person until it's clear that he is cheating or not or something like that asap

I think the hacking is the bigest problem for HG above all, its getting out of hand completly. They must add a bether way to report people. Feels like The bans they made is just a tip of an iceberg and only framing the most blatant hackers. All this aimboting, speedhacking, teleporting etc makes me sick.

@harganbacsi8914 If its True they cant do anything about ESP, wallhack, or aimbot for example then i have no hope for this game, becaurse if thats true then they can hack how much they want. Realy hope this aint true would suck.

The hacker problem has rendered Hourglass largely unplayable for my regular crews. It has been months since we achieved a 5+ streak without running into at least one crew of cheaters.

We regularly report when we encounter them, but this simply is not a viable solution to the problem. Reporting cheaters requires players to (1) record their gameplay footage, (2) edit said footage into an uploadable, useful video (3) upload said footage and submit a report. The process can easily take an hour just to file a full report. Meanwhile, it takes, what, 20 minutes to create a new account and evade a ban?

All of this belies the bigger issue: Rare is the developer, and Live Service implies, well, service. Effectively punting to the player base to report cheaters is unreasonable. It is Rare's responsibility to maintain the health of their game. Hopefully we see a significant update on this soon -- as problematic as the content drought is, fixing or at least abating this cheater problem is absolutely, unavoidably more important to player experience.

@raaaavus 100% agree on this, well said.

Just a thought: why don't remove kegs from SoT until they fixed the Problem xD. So they can't spawn kegs on you at least

@r4pha-sot A less invasive fix would be to make your ship sink if a crewmate is detected outside of the circle. So they would at least be limited to the kegs they have within the circle limits. But that would be difficult to implement I reckon.

@r4pha-sot said in The Hourglass PvP problem:

Just a thought: why don't remove kegs from SoT until they fixed the Problem xD. So they can't spawn kegs on you at least

Kegs aren’t the only problem. Rare introduced a captaincy feature where you can restore your ship at the shipwrights. They can completely restore your ship even if it’s seconds from sinking. Hackers have used this feature in a match to restore their ship instantly. Hackers can tap into anything that exists in sea of thieves.

The problem is that Rare needs something that can track illegal modifications and instantly boot people from the servers until Rare can officially investigate and issue a ban. Maybe even track a specific computer. I don’t know if there is a way to track a specific computer or Xbox system.