Just finished it and I'm looking for the next tall tale but there's nothing at the outpost, what gives?
Melee island (specifically this tall tale which is 1/3 of this whole series)... left a lot to be desired and the real cherry on top was the TM symbols thrown in the chat dialogues.
This really cannot be it.
A joke -- this whole update is a joke.
@tommycutlass It's the first of 3 tall tales. The next one will be released in August. I really enjoyed this one and I'm looking forward to the next ! :D
@tommycutlass If you read updates and posts, you would know that the three new Tall Tales are coming monthly.
The ™ symbols are a nod to the original games which did the same.
Labelling something 'a joke™' without understanding or reading up on it 😏
@tommycutlass tell me you havent followed any of the news without telling me you havent followed any of the news.
Or even listened to the exposition that was given at the end of the current tall tale
Melee island... left a lot to be desired
You mean, the rest of the island, which will be in one of the other 2 tall tales ? Which will also have the
The Fantastic Flying Fettucini Brothers Circus
Which you can already see from atop lookout point.
and the real cherry on top was the TM symbols thrown in the chat dialogues.
You mean a call back to the actual monkey island games from back in the day in which this was also put in on purpose as a funny little thing ?
What your post reads as is someone who barged trough the tall tale as fast as possible, not paying attention to any of the dialog or have any knowledge whatsoever of what monkey island and its humor entailed.
Just fyi, from the get go it was announced that the monkey island cross over was split up into 3 tall tales, the first releasing on the 20th of july and the other two would come in the following two months (so tale 2 in august, 3 in september)
I am also guessing that this initial tall tale is mostly to get people acquainted with how the puzzles will work and in order to solve them you actually need to talk to most if not all NPC’s and actually pay attention to what they are saying
@triheadedmonkey @CallMeBackdrafT
I'm not going to read up on small not-funny jokes in a game that came out 20 years ago.
They're not funny and your little quip isn't witty either.
This tall tale was not fun. It was run back and forth from one part of the town to the other a few times and find 200 pieces of eight all throughout.
And no, I don't follow Sea of Thieves news because I don't care to.
So, thus far, much ado about nothing from the peanut gallery.
If you're going to drip feed tall tales like this over 3 months because you want to guarantee Xbox console players pay for three months worth of Game Pass, put in more effort than this, Rare.
Poor form, chaps.
@tommycutlass Then either don't do them or don't complain when you do do them and it makes no sense.
Not everything is made for everyone and not everyone has to enjoy everything.
That is OK.
Instanced and spread out over time is going to support the organic environment significantly.
It is what many come here for and that is an excellent way to allow people to dip the toes in the water rather than getting chucked in the shark tank right away.
It's not for everyone but as far as environmental impact goes this is very supportive of a large portion of the community and will continue to improve the quality of life for many players and offer wholesome and less intense content as an option.
Rare has made a lot of progress in the last year imo, specifically around supporting more of their participants in more ways. Super awesome to see imo.
@tommycutlass Of course.
I am more of the mind of being informed about your arguments before you complain about them.
@triheadedmonkey said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
@tommycutlass Of course.
I am more of the mind of being informed about your arguments before you complain about them.
I recommend then you start by understanding what I wrote.
@tommycutlass said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
@triheadedmonkey @CallMeBackdrafT
I'm not going to read up on small not-funny jokes in a game that came out 20 years ago.
It is a nod to the original jokes made, those who understand will those who dont are not hurt by it
They're not funny and your little quip isn't witty either.
This tall tale was not fun. It was run back and forth from one part of the town to the other a few times and find 200 pieces of eight all throughout.
Welcome to point and click adventure games, this is how they work and since this is a Monkey Island ™ crossover, the devs made alot of effort to do it in the same way.
PaC games and especially monkey island was known for the “need simple item? Follow convoluted path of lefts rights and u turns to get it” by interacting with npcs etc etc
Captain falcore does quite a good job explaining it here: https://youtu.be/YmSE91_B9y0
Only a 7 minute video so shouldnt be hard to watch trough
And no, I don't follow Sea of Thieves news because I don't care to.
So, thus far, much ado about nothing from the peanut gallery.
It is clear to me that the MI crossover is not your thing and thats fine, however something you fail to realise is, is that not all content is for everybody or just as fun for everybody. That doesn't make it factually bad, it makes it not for you
I have played trough it three times today twice alone (once to 100%) it and then with a crewmate and both me and my crewmate where laughing our buttocks off with multiple of the funny little (in)jokes and nods to the PaC games of old.
If you're going to drip feed tall tales like this over 3 months because you want to guarantee Xbox console players pay for three months worth of Game Pass, put in more effort than this, Rare.
Yes because the 0.10 cts per gamepass player per month is gonna do the trick….
Im gonna bet the emporium sales already topped that multiple times over
Poor form, chaps.
Poor form from who ?
Currently the general opinion of the majority is that it is a very well done crossover and people cannot wait for tt2 to release
@tommycutlass I did!
You wrote
"Just finished it and I'm looking for the next tall tale but there's nothing at the outpost, what gives?"
That is the end of the first Tall Tale. As announced, there would be one released today, with another two. Three Tales over three months.
"Melee island (specifically this tall tale which is 1/3 of this whole series)... left a lot to be desired and the real cherry on top was the TM symbols thrown in the chat dialogues."
The ™ symbols are a nod to the original games which did the same.
"This really cannot be it."
For now, as already explained here and in posts, YouTube Videos etc....
A joke -- this whole update is a joke.
If you don't read posts or patch notes, watch updates or do research on your own...then sure, it may come as a surprise.
@triheadedmonkey
Let me expand on what is a joke: when I, an old man, sit down with my 12 year old daughter to play this new tall tale because we were looking forward to it and the past tall tales were enjoyable, and this one ends up very much not--that's the joke.
"Is this it?"
"Let me check something, honey... uh yep, that looks like that's it. Well then...."
Does that help explain the this-update-is-a-joke part?
Oh no he just found out something people pointed out since the announcement a month ago
Welcome to the club mate. For now, you did well on the tall tale. Time to go exploring the seas, or explore another game until the next chapter releases. Nothing was written saying that all 3 would release on the same day, Instead, it was written on the YouTube announcement, and has been said that part one is releasing on this day. They aren't trying to hide this, but you do have to have some keen sight/vision to notice beforehand.
Unfortunate you found out this way, but hang tight, if this part of the adventure is fun, then imagine all the other parts of the adventure when they release!
But it was bad. This tall tale was not fun.
1 of 3 in the series, and this just was not fun. We started it, and it started out well; got a bit grindy for those last few pieces of eight, and then it ended. Nothing happened and it was over.
Am I missing something or was this tall tale really passable in quality ?
@tommycutlass said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
@triheadedmonkey
Let me expand on what is a joke: when I, an old man, sit down with my 12 year old daughter to play this new tall tale because we were looking forward to it and the past tall tales were enjoyable, and this one ends up very much not--that's the joke.
But why was it not? because you didn’t realise this whole thing was going to work differently then precious tall tales ? By fact of being released in stages and by fact of being a cross over with a very specific game style ?
"Is this it?"
"Let me check something, honey... uh yep, that looks like that's it. Well then...."
Well you havent checked very good for your answer there, otherwise you would have known this was in fact not it, it was it FOR NOW.
Does that help explain the this-update-is-a-joke part?
This is like saying a complete tv series is a joke because a singular episode wasn’t up to par and having to wait some time for the next episode to drop….
@tommycutlass It explains why you might not enjoy it.
That doesn't mean it is a Joke™.
It is all subjective. Some people enjoy A, Some people enjoy B. Some people enjoy C as long as it isn't an option.
Writing off months or years of hard work because you didn't like it, does not negate the fact that others might have.
People are absolutely allowed their subjective opinions...but it doesn't make them fact.
The fact that your opinions are based on lack of information doesn't invalidate the fact that you didn't enjoy it. Again, everyone likes what they like. Not everything is for everyone and neither should it be.
@tommycutlass said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
Let me expand on what is a joke: when I, an old man, sit down with my 12 year old daughter to play this new tall tale because we were looking forward to it and the past tall tales were enjoyable, and this one ends up very much not--that's the joke.
But it was bad. This tall tale was not fun.
1 of 3 in the series, and this just was not fun. We started it, and it started out well; got a bit grindy for those last few pieces of eight, and then it ended. Nothing happened and it was over.
Am I missing something or was this tall tale really passable in quality ?
I get not being into something much but if you enjoyed other tales and feel as you do about this one it doesn't make much sense to me. I certainly wouldn't consider it a lower quality piece of content than other tales.
It's free story content and you got to spend time with your daughter. That's a dub even if the story didn't do much
A lot of us aren't super into story content in SoT, we just approach it with an open mind and make the best out of the experience.
@triheadedmonkey
I don't know what you're saying because it isn't anything new or insightful.
I never claimed anything as a fact.
In fact anything that anyone writes that is subjective is an opinion by default anyhow. I'm sorry if you didn't know or understand that since I didn't literally write out "in my opinion".
I assume people know this already, but that wasn't the case here. So congratulations on pointing out that my own opinion on the matter was, in fact, my own opinion. I'm sure you spared a lot of people any future confusion.
Nothing you wrote, however, does not allow me to share my opinion on this forum.
This tall tale was not fun.
@tommycutlass said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
Am I missing something or was this tall tale really passable in quality ?
In my opinion you are either missing something OR the gamestyle on which this crossover was based on is just not for you.
If i look on the forums:
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/160265/mêlée-island-feedback
Op here gives it a 9/10
This OP is “Blown away” and specifically says:
You guys hit this out of the park! I had a blast completing the Tall Tale, and I am REALLY looking forward to the second tale next month! Thanks for everything, Rare!
So I'm not allowed to offer my opinion that this tall tale was not fun, however other posts are allowed because they offer positive reviews?
What are you saying here exactly?
Let me add something here: What you quoted is exaggeration/hyperbole. I clearly played the same tall tale you did. I thought such wordplay should go without saying but I'm starting to think you're taking what I wrote more literal than you should.
@tommycutlass While feedback is welcome, please take care as to how you express it. Devs work hard with any and all content provided and deserve more constructive and less offensive feedback than "this is a joke".
With that I would appreciate if we can move on, preferably in a more constructive way.
@tommycutlass said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
So I'm not allowed to offer my opinion that this tall tale was not fun, however other posts are allowed because they offer positive reviews?
No that is absolutely not what i am saying,
As i stated multiple times it seems to me that this style is just not your thing, that isn’t good or bad that is your experience even though it might initially be (partially) based on a lack of information.
Because, for instance, if from the get go you and your daughter would have known this was only part 1/3 of the complete story that “is this it?!?” Let down would have never taken place, such a let down can really sour someones taste for something and can be hard to come back from.
I also have a strong feeling that you think me and @triheadedmonkey are attacking you or something and i can promise you we are not.
What are you saying here exactly?
I was responding to a specific question you put out there:
Am I missing something or was this tall tale really passable in quality ?
Thats why i stated this initially:
In my opinion you are either missing something OR the gamestyle on which this crossover was based on is just not for you.
And instead of just reiterating my own feelings about the tall tale which i have shared in a couple of posts in this thread i thought about giving some other peoples points of view which are quite elaborate and might convey something i currently am not or simply not able to
Let me add something here: What you quoted is exaggeration/hyperbole. I clearly played the same tall tale you did. I thought such wordplay should go without saying but I'm starting to think you're taking what I wrote more literal than you should.
Flat text can miss alot of context, we dont see eachother i cannot see your general attitude and just have the written word to go off.
This is also why statements like:
This tall tale was not fun.
Come off as harsh and “matter of fact” like, thats why generally when people are writing stuff like this they add “imho”, “in my opinion” or “for me” and stuff like that.
This softens the wording since we only have the flat text and no other context to go off. When we are conversing IRL most of the communication actually happens in the eyes, tone of voice, a persons stance etc etc etc. Words are only about 50% of it all.
Yes generally it can be assumed that when someone says something it is stated as an opinion but in the written word it generally doesn’t work like that and in general i go by the mantra Assumptions are the mother of all f ups, so by trying to adjust the words i type i try to convey the missing context that falls away by only being able to convey my stance in flat text on a screen
@tommycutlass said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
So I'm not allowed to offer my opinion that this tall tale was not fun, however other posts are allowed because they offer positive reviews?
No one has stopped you from posting your opinion. With this being a public forum you should realize others have the right to post their opinion about your opinion. Welcome to public discourse.
@tommycutlass What exactly would you change to make the tall tale better? Peraonally, I really enjoyed the way they adapted the point and click way of quest stacking (you need an item, but you need to get an item to get an item, etc). In fact, I am VERY exited for the next two TT's to reveal the rest of melee and monkey island. I would go as far to say this is my FAVORITE tall tale so far, and that is my opion. You are entitled to yours. However, it would be better if instead of saying "this is a joke" you could provide ways to improve the first Legend of Monkey Island™ tall tale.
@burnbacon said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
Finished it in under a hour. All commendations.
Not even the longest TT I’ve done.
No replay value either :(
Imo this is the best instanced experience for crews in the game thus far
for a chill night out with new players, friends new to the game, or just a game night without dealing with pvp this tale fills a void in the game imo.
It can be combined with the first potc tale for more content and down the road people can enjoy all the monkey island content.
Mainly what this content does is add options and more options means more people being served.
Personally I never see this content as "it has to last" all it needs to do is serve people imo, in an environment that is always adding different content to add to the whole.
Whether it's a tale or a shrine or sea fort or voyages or events or just random adventuring like I do there are more and more options and that's where all this content shines imo
@tesiccl
I'm not afraid of a forum moderator.
Said person started acting pedantic and I made a correction. Forum moderator really did not come out on top.
Game developers are compensated with money for their time and labor. They are not immune to any criticism, and really, they are subject to the most criticism by the very nature of this business. When I said this tall tale was a joke, that's hyperbole for 'did not meet expectations'.
It seems that this needs to be spelled out for everyone because such is the way online communication works. This tall tale did not meet the standard I had come to expect from the people that previously set high standards.
Your pseudo-pedantic reply isn't any better than my five word review when it comes down to it.
I'll elaborate a little. Did the tall tale start off well enough? Yes, it did. But I can't remember which run from one side of the map to the other we realized "we really are just running back and forth from one side of the town to the other" I don't know 6? 7? 8? 9? times (not even taking into account searching for the pieces of eight) try to push through the puzzles. The puzzles were fine enough but it was puzzle after puzzle after puzzle after puzzle after puzzle after puzzle after puzzle after puzzle and I don't think I've finished numbering them off here.
So all of this for the payoff. What payoff? There was no payoff.
That's the joke.
As for criticsm for the game developers, they get paid with money, not words of praise. As such, they're appropriately compensated for their work, and I haven't even come close to using any vulgar or inappropriate language. They aren't owed anything by the consumer, so you can quit with that rubbish. I paid for this game (and if you have play on console, Microsoft gets to double dip because you very literally have to pay to play [monthly]) and there's a forum provided for by the very developers of the game. Take what you get or don't provide it at all.
Today's new tall tale did not live up to the hype. It started off well enough, but somewhere in the middle of it, it becomes not fun, and in the end, close to insufferable.
@tommycutlass said in Please tell me there's more to the new tall tale than this!:
@tesiccl
I'm not afraid of a forum moderator.
This kind of energy you've been putting out is likely why you didn't enjoy the content or at the very least make the best out of it.
Enjoyment in this game on the story/pve side requires optimism and expectations only decrease the chance of an enjoyable experience.
Not to be confused with "positivity". Fair criticism is fine, not liking something much is fine.
You aren't obligated to make the best out of the moment but you are the one that pays the price for abstaining from it.
