Boarding enemy ships should have a consequence

I don't know how long it takes for the automatic "release" now that you can't be revived on a ship that isn't yours, but I do like the idea that if you can get to them and "resuscitate" them before that time they awaken in your brig. We're only talking seconds, but I don't think spending twice as long in your brig as on the ferry is too out of order. It's still 30 seconds tops for a crewmember from a galleon IIRC.

It's got my thumbs up.

I don't mind that. Most of what I have seen written into this game is not about actual piracy, but freedom, adventure, and finding treasure that you didn't take from somebody. The actual pirates are the PVP folks stealing ,a.k.a piracy, from adventurers. So why not a little discouragement from violating what narrative the games designers wrote.

It's an interesting idea and I'm not completely against it but you gotta also understand how boarding is a good strategy to prevent the enemy from repairing their ship or even just shooting back at your ship. It has it's own risk/rewards of not being on your own boat to take care of it.

Unfortunately I also understand that some people just straight up board you first thing and proceed to spawn camp you because skill gap. That being said I think there is something to be talked about with regards to people who can also just board spam, by running away and constantly attempting to shooting themselves over, but I think those people are few and far between.

Inb4 all the sweats cry about how this is "such a dumb idea" without offering any other input

@eva1977 I think they should have a boarding ship marked on the map for you to go back and attack them. It seems like a lot of times people will attack a ship, kill the crew, steal the loot, burn the ship down, but then the person who was attacked just forgets about it. They spawn with a new ship and don't bother trying to go back. What if, every time someone sinks another ship, the victim has a chance to go after them, like there was some sort of curse put upon the attacker. Now that's consequences.
We can already do this with ships that have the reapers mark so it's really easy to track a reaper and annoy them / get revenge.
The only negative I could see about marking attacking ships is what if the boarding party actually looses to you, and then you burn down their ship out of necessity, then you would be marked on the map. That would suck as that only helps out the attacker. We really don't want people being penalized for self defense.
Yeah, the game developers would have to figure out something special for my "marking ships" idea to work LOL!

I do like your idea though about the jails. You have my vote.

Also, I'm so encouraging people to go after ships that have attacked them. It's easy to do with reapers and you can still do it with non-reaper ships too. We've done it. You just have to remember where you were on the map and get sailing fast. Even if you don't take them down the first time, go back and attack them again and again. Don't just let boarding enemy ships get away with it. In real life boarding enemy ships would be marked as nuisances and targeted so why not in the game world.

So, remove more space from the sloop and add a bigger punishment to leaving your ship vulnerable for a bit…

Lemme think. No thanks.

My idea is to make swimming much more dangerous, more sharks and add lots, 1000s of poisonous jelly fish :)

I would also like to see grappling hooks (harpoon is ok, but not great)!

@athena-azmadeus said in Boarding enemy ships should have a consequence:

@eva1977 I think they should have a boarding ship marked on the map for you to go back and attack them. It seems like a lot of times people will attack a ship, kill the crew, steal the loot, burn the ship down, but then the person who was attacked just forgets about it. They spawn with a new ship and don't bother trying to go back. What if, every time someone sinks another ship, the victim has a chance to go after them, like there was some sort of curse put upon the attacker. Now that's consequences.
We can already do this with ships that have the reapers mark so it's really easy to track a reaper and annoy them / get revenge.
The only negative I could see about marking attacking ships is what if the boarding party actually looses to you, and then you burn down their ship out of necessity, then you would be marked on the map. That would suck as that only helps out the attacker. We really don't want people being penalized for self defense.
Yeah, the game developers would have to figure out something special for my "marking ships" idea to work LOL!

I do like your idea though about the jails. You have my vote.

Also, I'm so encouraging people to go after ships that have attacked them. It's easy to do with reapers and you can still do it with non-reaper ships too. We've done it. You just have to remember where you were on the map and get sailing fast. Even if you don't take them down the first time, go back and attack them again and again. Don't just let boarding enemy ships get away with it. In real life boarding enemy ships would be marked as nuisances and targeted so why not in the game world.

EDIT: I do want to make a clarifying statement about harassing/annoying other ships that have attacked you. I'm definitely exaggerating/joking. What I do is if I run into a ship that attacked and sunk me I go back and try to sink them, and if I am unsuccessful the first time, I try again until I'm successful or until I get bored of it. It's good naval battle practice if you want to gain the experience but you're not into the PvP part of the game. Plus, it creates more dynamic game play. If you love the PvP part and you like attacking ships and stealing their loot, just be aware there's a consequence for it. You might be rearing up for a counterattack.

@foambreaker said in Boarding enemy ships should have a consequence:

My idea is to make swimming much more dangerous, more sharks and add lots, 1000s of poisonous jelly fish :)

I would also like to see grappling hooks (harpoon is ok, but not great)!

Jelly fish! Would love to run into a school of jelly fish. I think swimming can be dangerous enough though. It gets annoying if you run into a shark EVERY TIME you dive into the sea.

@eva1977 said in Boarding enemy ships should have a consequence:

@athena-azmadeus I think there's room for a lot of expansion and i've seen great ideas thrown out there but the community feedback here seems to be consistently rejecting change, good thing it's like .1 % of actual players comenting here.
I could understand if the ideas were to implement airplanes in the game but most ideas are not game changers just additions.
I remember when the game first started and it had mostly nothing, but same thing all suggestions were flat out refused.
Good thing developers still implemented their ideas and now we have a better more complete game and everything that was once rejected is now accepted.

I'm pretty new to this game but I can still see the thoughtfulness the developers had. There are a lot of aspects about this game that make it seem very balanced and enjoyable for new players, seasoned players, PvP players, PvE players, frequency of storms and other sailing dangers, ship designs, the type of supplies and frequency at which they spawn in the barrels, the weapon design, etc, etc. There are other seasoned games out there that still have issues with providing a balanced game that makes it enjoyable for all.

@hiradc said in Boarding enemy ships should have a consequence:

It does have a consequence, if you successfully defend and kill them, it leaves their ship more vulnerable. Boarding is not an easy feat and it only takes a semi competent crew to have awareness of:
The difference in cannon sounds when its a ball or a player (though can be faked with pets)
Looking and Listening out for Mermaids, players swimming and the splash of the board.

Boarding is actually very much in favour of the defenders, it may not seem that way as some people are really good at it but you'll find the same people are actually very good at guarding ladders too.

Here's another issue that stems from your idea, you think this is a one way defender buff, well actually good players will now harpoon you onto their ship and blunder you to the face more.
Good players will adapt and find ways around challenges and barriers

All this aside I'm sure it's obvious but I disagree with the actual premise of your post in terms of a punishment for attempting to board a ship.

I don't think it is a concept of punishment but rather consequence. For example, joining the Reaper Bones gives you perks but there is also a consequence, your ship location is marked on the map. This isn't a punishment. It's a balance.

I think we disagree on whether boarding is easy or difficult. I think it's a little to easy to board and it's really easy for boarders to spawn kill you / difficult to save your ship once they are aboard, especially when it's 4 v 1.

Boarding an enemy ship does have a consequence. You can get killed doing it. I usually do. 🤣

Personally I love this idea. Ark had something similar though far more severe (I'm capturing, force feeding, etc and keeping people prisoner indefinitely).

I would say it makes sense too. Killed on an enemy ship? They're gonna lock you up in their brig for awhile. It would also make players definitely second guess any kind of boarding play, especially a solo player.

Maybe make a puzzle out of it too, like something as a sort of escape attempt? That way instead of sitting around waiting they can try to speed up their escape

@eva1977 said in Boarding enemy ships should have a consequence:

@scurvywoof Yeah if you spell it out like that, either black or white...
The mechanic has shades of grey and not as you simply put it.
But to make it clear it's not punishment for "leaving your ship" its a chance at a penalty for boarding other ships which is different.

But the penalty already is leaving your ship unattended. Why add an even harsher penalty? Besides, if a 'hefty fine' can be paid to get out instantly, then it's not a punishment for anyone but the poor.