PVP Needs Balancing - Respawning out of Control

@Swordcrossx have you tried gun powder barrels?

@knightofraven Let me know how often you successfully swim to the enemy boat with a gun powder barrel, climb on, place it, and shoot it. I've managed once. Also, when your boat gets rammed they all blow up.

@swordcrossx you don't need to place it on the boat, release it next to the hull and blow it up in the water

@swordcrossx Data-miners found files relating to a boarding axe. Perhaps coming soon?

@cptncuttlefish Think you're missing my point. I shouldn't have to spawn kill them, it's useless and a waste of everything. When you are fighting an island down such as a fort, they can spawn back (and no, it isn't far enough) and sail right back over and sink your boat while you are raiding the fort. I shouldn't have to puppy guard it.

@swordcrossx Like every fight the priority is the gunpowder

@mojo-spaghettio That would be great honestly.

@swordcrossx in my opinion the respawning is not broken, it is fair, I don't understand how your solutions solve the problem, if everytime you died from a sneaky blunderbuss skeleton and then you spawned 15 minutes away, you'd just turn the game off because you cant be bothered.
If you died in pvp and it took twice as long to respawn, once again, you'd just turn the game off because all you loot will be taken so there is no point.
People spawn close so they can both get on with their quests and/or try to get their loot back.

@sh-trident I don't care as much about the people respawning, but the BOATS that don't need to respawn at all near their sinking point. Sinking should be the ultimate disengagement.

@cptncuttlefish I'm not running solo. This is on galleons with 4-man crews. The ship respawn locations need to be more distant

@swordcrossx so you are saying that if you ship sinks, the price you should pay is; all the loot you had collected, any chance of getting it back and either an enormous travel time to get back to your quest locations or having to cancel the voyage because it's too far away?

@sh-trident People who have loot don't go full-fledge ramming into other ships and trying to execute full blown assaults. And if they do? Yeah. It should be gone. Ships have no reason to respawn within 30 seconds of where they sank.

@cptncuttlefish It's galleon vs galleons not sloops. Stop trying to make it sound like some pathetic instance. There was a war with 3 galleons and 2 sloops over a fort. We put down both galleons and within a minute they were both back. And yes they were the same one and I can verify that by the painting of the hull and the sails.

@chilmus said in PVP Needs Balancing - Respawning out of Control:

I had this yesterday.
When we were raiding a fort and made the ship sink.
We were fighting for like 30 mins (PvP) untill everything ran out. Made the ship sink. The ship spawns like 30 seconds away on another island and they could come back again with new stuff on board. We were still struggling raiding the fort, 30 seconds later 'o look the same galleon again who we were fighting like 2 minutes ago'.
This is really frustrating.

XD
I feels your frustration. I am just happy I read that. That was so funny.

@cptncuttlefish Because it DOESN'T END. And it WON'T END. That's why. No one cares to even go aboard the fort because they are going to be fighting endlessly for hours on end. It doesn't stop. What point of that are you not getting? If they even try to go aboard the island the single person will die to skeletons. If they all go their ship will get sunk and then where do they drag the chests to? Do you see why you can't stop fighting the other boats?

@swordcrossx said in PVP Needs Balancing - Respawning out of Control:

@cptncuttlefish It's galleon vs galleons not sloops. Stop trying to make it sound like some pathetic instance. There was a war with 3 galleons and 2 sloops over a fort. We put down both galleons and within a minute they were both back. And yes they were the same one and I can verify that by the painting of the hull and the sails.

This isn't even remotely believable and is just a bunch of hyperbolic crying, the turn around on something like this even with a Galleon spawning on a direct adjacent island would be AT MINIMUM 3-4 minutes until intercept if you remained 100% stationary.

You're trying to lie and stretch reality to fit your narrative to a bunch of people who already understand the timing for all of this and know you're trying to push an agenda.

Try again.

@nyadc85 Honestly? No. It doesn't take long to return back to the sinking point of origin. We returned back and it took us little to no time at all to do so and wind up right back into the fray. I can visually see without a spy glass, the ships respawn on a nearby island and come right back. Crews of 3-4 people can easily get a ship up and sailing quickly. Sure as HELL did not take us 3-4 minutes to return and start shooting.

@guepard4 I'm not talking about play style. I'm talking about how 3 galleons are endlessly shooting at each other over a fort that no one can capture.

@son-of-gump Thank you. This along with the endless supply of brand new battering rams. They get a new boat and just ram yours if it's anchored, or shoot if it isn't with that fresh supply of 60 more shots. And if they run out? Battering ram! I don't care if they have a voyage on the table and 10 chests. If they should choose to engage in that combat and sink, they need to lose it all, get kicked across the map, and start over. This way they would think twice again before trying to engage in a battle. Sinking isn't punished. It just isn't.

@son-of-gump Anyone who drops the half a** "get good" comment needs to uninstall every pvp game they have lol. I've had someone who posted a reply on another game called Hunt:Showdown (and I am decent at the game) saying "stop dying". Because when someone ambushes you and you get shot, you can just, you know, stop dying at will.

While my buddy and I agree that the respawn timer for the ferry of the damned should take a little longer, spawning on another island without your boat seems a little extreme. Same with getting booted out of the server all together.

As for dealing with the fort, the whole point is that it's supposed to be a wild rush for treasure. There's anywhere from 11,000 to 17,000 gold worth in a Fort's vault. Who really wants to pass that up?

If you can't stick it out or the battle is going no where, then just back off. Let the other team deal with the skellies and then go in and blast them when they're not paying attention, scoop some of the treasure and get out of there. The Scoundrel Chest and Skull are the most worthwhile treasures there, everything else is pennies in comparison.

My buddy literal just texted me about how him an my brother went 2v4 at a fort, managed to scoop some treasure and hightail it out of there. So it's completely doable. You just have to be clever.

Also the melee works fine for me. You can interrupt a combo by blocking, and if you block the third strike you'll actually push your opponent back and open them up for an attack.

See this thread for more tips on swordplay: link text

I'm ok with the spawns on the boat, but totally disappointed with Ship respawn near the sunk point. This is lol. Have already wright a "cool story" here about this. https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/40294/respawn-assault-idea

@drbullhammer Not out of proportion. It took us no time at all to return back as it did for them.

@zbreznakz Yes and it's a problem!