I solo sloop most of the time because my "friends" won't respond to my messages, right? So, of course, I occasionally get attacked by a larger ship. I usually just fork over my loot to save the hassle of a battle and repeated deaths since I suck at the game. What really just makes my blood boil are people that don't even want the loot, they just want to make me suffer! If you are someone who does this, go ahead and recede back into the mouldy primordial soup you came from, please.
Jerks
@gildedthrone219 said in Jerks:
I solo sloop most of the time because my "friends" won't respond to my messages, right? So, of course, I occasionally get attacked by a larger ship. I usually just fork over my loot to save the hassle of a battle and repeated deaths since I suck at the game. What really just makes my blood boil are people that don't even want the loot, they just want to make me suffer! If you are someone who does this, go ahead and recede back into the mouldy primordial soup you came from, please.
SoT is meant to be played how you want to play.
Play how you want. Let others play how they want. My crew, well, we sink every ship we come across, 99% of the time. It's not like we know what you do or do not have. It's not like we know what voyages you are or are not doing.
It's a pirate game. Part of being a pirate is wanting others to surrender and cower in your presence.
Sometimes we're nice. Sometimes were bad (good) pirates.
Practice communicating and fighting. From your post, I am guessing you don't use a mic. That's just a guess, but most of the time people that complain how others are playing never communicate, which prevents others from even caring about a real person being on the other end of your character.
Also, there are plenty of players out there that love playing with others. Check out Find a Crew and make some online friends to play with.
@gildedthrone219
No you want to make you suffer.
Why go to. Soccer Stadium if you dont like soccer.When you login into a PvP game you are accepting to compete.
No matter if you have loot or not.
You accept to have to fight against other players.
There is no "but i dont want to", just because it's the games idea of what it want to be.
A place where pirates not neccessarily but possibly fight each other for no reason, but to fight for cannonballs sake.
The Jerk here is you who comes to a game, claims to suck by yourself and do not accept the design and pirate code of the game what contains PvP and says be good Sport for winning and loosing.Tbh if someone flees from me and throws piles of junk over board i would guess he has something more worthy 2what he want to safe and therefore throws the less worthy stuff over hoard to distract us.
You can play the game like you want, you need not to partake actively in.pvp, but you need to understand, that PvP is Part of the game and cannot be excluded.
So you accept to partake passive in PvP at minimum.
Otherwise it's like someone who go to the soccer Stadium and complains about all the people who love soccer.
You came to a pirate game with PvP and complain over pirates sinking you?
It's nearly toxic and jerkish by yourself isn't it?@gildedthrone219
I have been playing like a week or so and quickly found out there is a contingent of people who seem to only be playing SoT for the joy they get from trying to ruin it for others. Which is the only reason they do what you describe. Not for a fun fight since it isn't a fight at all when you are talking a 3 man brig or 4 man galleon vs a solo sloop, especially one with a less skilled or less experienced player on it as is usually the case, and not for the loot since they don't want it or in my recent experience I didn't even have any. So with having no loot or them having no interest in it and no real fight or challenge since they totally out class the solo sloop, there is no legitimate in game reason to keep killing and/or sink the solo slooper. They only do it because of the simple pleasure and feeling of power they get from causing another to suffer a bad time.@themaster9005 because it's fun is a valid reason.
If you don't want to be attacked, you need to make not attacking you fun, which isn't possible for every encounter.
Alternatively, you can fight back and defend your right to play the game how you choose. Can't fight back? Then your ability to play how you want is dependent on the good will of others. You can try to engender some good will with your words, it's the more difficult road than just learning to fight though
@themaster9005 sagte in Jerks:
@gildedthrone219
I have been playing like a week or so and quickly found out there is a contingent of people who seem to only be playing SoT for the joy they get from trying to ruin it for others. Which is the only reason they do what you describe. Not for a fun fight since it isn't a fight at all when you are talking a 3 man brig or 4 man galleon vs a solo sloop, especially one with a less skilled or less experienced player on it as is usually the case, and not for the loot since they don't want it or in my recent experience I didn't even have any. So with having no loot or them having no interest in it and no real fight or challenge since they totally out class the solo sloop, there is no legitimate in game reason to keep killing and/or sink the solo slooper. They only do it because of the simple pleasure and feeling of power they get from causing another to suffer a bad time.I wont say this does not happen, but now you are generalizing and all PvP what is "unfair" now is accused to be sadistic?!
We sunk Sloops what were in the way. Why, although we were 3 or 4 and have more cannons and cutlasses?
Because we already got sunk by sloops for sure! And we had worthy stuff and we wanted to park, unload and hand i our booty in calm at this outpost where this sloop lies.
I dont know if this is Mrs. Buttercake with her children playing or KillroXXor666 and his friend sckmydck88 who can do freaking stuff with their controls and kill us all in 30 seconds.
Yeah happens for sure...You are now prejudjing all who do PvP in a game where PvP is part of the programm like kicking the ball is part of the programm of a soccer game.
As i said i dont doubt there are jerks here who PvP because they want you to suffer.
But then why please them and suffer when there is nothing suffer about except the jerk who has only fun in others costs?
If that is the case then we need to feel for this lost soul lacking love.But imho the vast majority is just playing the game and pvp just happens and is essential part of the game.
This said: Sandbox open world PvP ask you to organize ize yourself.
Yes you can choose to be undermanmed and do not organize a crew to put yourself into the upper position, but to sail solo or duo.
This can be challenging, thrilling and all, but do you know what if you dont want to have a disadvantage in an open world sandbox PvP game? You get a crew, run a Galleone and you are fine or?
It's a MP sandbox.
The one who organize more arms has more cutlass to swing and cannons to shot.
It's casual friendly as it is limited by 4 players.
There are sandbox PvP games were you have to organize 500 or more to be successfull or at least competetive.
It's only 4 here.
And you can be very competetive as a duo sloop too and outrun a Galleone kill them all and sink it.
You can also use other tactics to compensate disadvantages in numbers.There are jerks who have fun on ithers costs.
Most people expect from you that you agree to PvP if you login into a PvP game.
And if you put yourself into a weak position in a MP sandbox game with PvP well then i for myself expect you agreed to that situation that you put yourself into this disadvantage position by choice!I do that also a lot 9f the time, but i do not complain when i loose then.
And i also already had successfully fought bigger ships and killed overwehelming pirates and sunk them.
Some with luck, some with better skill, some with ambush tactics.People who do not accept PvP here and accused other to be jerks is not ok and not good sports.
I agree on it if people trashtalk and spawnkill (i scuttle immediatley if my 3rd try to kill someone is not successfull and i get spawnkilled.
I then say to myself or a crew, scuttle and switch server maybe, there is nothing to win anymore we lost, accept it and get over it.
Takes me between 20 and 60 seconds, maybe 2 minutes if i lost an Athena, but this didnt happen until.Please do not generalize for PvP.
The majority just plays the game!@gildedthrone219 I hear you.
They are definitely out there.I think what others on this forum are not understanding is to the point that others are going. Where the ship is empty of supplies, the loot has been taken, and the other players are waiting on either points on the ship to kill whoever spawns in. My favorite is when they stream it themselves on mixer which makes it easier to report them.
Just report them on xbox live for unsportsmanlike behavior and move on.
@gildedthrone219 on a different note,
Look at the fleets on the looking for crew here in the forums. There are many to join, so you do not have to solo sloop.@bugaboo-bill I can answer the question on why?
Because I like to waste their time just as they are wasting mine.
I don't like to scuttle as I don't want to give them the satisfaction.On my old xbox one, the load time is bad. Nothing worst then loading in and finding your way to the ferry. Just hang out on the ferry for a bit so they get bored looking around the ship. Go back through the door and usually they miss you. Get to find clever ways to retaliate. Best is when you can steal their ship or light a keg. Anything to be the little gnat that annoys them just as they are trying to annoy others.
@gildedthrone219 said in Jerks:
I solo sloop most of the time because my "friends" won't respond to my messages, right? So, of course, I occasionally get attacked by a larger ship. I usually just fork over my loot to save the hassle of a battle and repeated deaths since I suck at the game. What really just makes my blood boil are people that don't even want the loot, they just want to make me suffer! If you are someone who does this, go ahead and recede back into the mouldy primordial soup you came from, please.
Your only options are to suck it up and enjoy the game for what it is (An open world pirate sandbox adventure where sometimes you come across the bloodthirsty ones who couldn't care less about your mix of marauders and seafarers chests)
Or don't play.
The future of this game, as it does with every update, only makes solo slooping even harder to deal with if you're not on the ball the entire time, and playing to a sloops strengths. Anytime something new comes out that players have to focus on and manage ship wise, it affects ALL ships, it doesn't exclude solo players.
I remember when mast breaks, and ship damage were introduced and solo sloopers freaked about the imbalance. Cursed cannonballs were the same. Emergent skeleton ships... etc.
You choose to go into the hostile world alone. You either adapt and enjoy it, or accept that solo slooping isn't supposed to be easy, and if you're not a strong player, will often be a victim of attacks and theft, and in turn should use LFG and get a bigger crew
You'll be solo sinking for the foreseeable future if your only response to being sunk is to complain and suggest the people who sunk you are in the wrong, and are terrible human beings.
You choose to go into the hostile world alone. You either adapt and enjoy it, or accept that solo slooping isn't supposed to be easy, and if you're not a strong player, will often be a victim of attacks and theft, and in turn should use LFG and get a bigger crew
You'll be solo sinking for the foreseeable future if your only response to being sunk is to complain and suggest the people who sunk you are in the wrong, and are terrible human beings.
This. New SoT players with the mindset of 🎻I'm new, I'm alone and people only want to make me suffer and this community is the worst🎻 might want to take a look at this excellent post:
https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/99735/the-game-needs-disclaimers-warnings-for-solo-play
Find people to play with (LFG, discords) and take time to learn the game and you will realise that no, PVP is not griefing and no, not everyone out there is out to get you but act like it just in case; hope for the best but always be prepared for the worst.
Dying does not matter in this game, and losing a bit of supply is far from the end of the world. If people decide to camp or troll you and you already lost, scuttle and/or change server, you have nothing more to lose.
Please stop with the theatrics and dramatisation. 🎻😪😃
@gildedthrone219
Don't let 'em get to ya, friend.
The people who are actual jerks about it are few and far between, and the price of death is a minor inconvenience at most. Those that are determined to slaughter you even when you put up no fight are just people still mired in the embedded tropes of video games.
Games up till now have trained us to believe that dying means losing and killing means winning. While this is untrue in SoT, some just can't get past that.
But try not to think to harshly of them. Some are just looking for a fight, some are playing it safe in case your innocent act is just a ruse, and some just feel like they should kill you as often as possible cause more kills means bigger "winning". For most it's not a case of malice, just shortsightedness.
Shrug it off and even try to find some humor in it. I still chuckle everytime a brig or galleon rolls up on me at an outpost and rams my completely empty ship. And there's almost always that little pause when they find me waiting for them onshore, defenseless and unconcerned.
I still get killed 99.9% of the time, but that little pause makes me smile. Partly in humor and partly in the thought that maybe I made their day just a smidge more weird and/or interesting.
Happy sails. =)
One guy just ruined our whole four ship fleet while we were all doing rag and bone crates.
A string of bad luck (such as having the wrong weapon out while standing next to reg and bone crates so I couldn't switch) meant that I failed to kill him myself when I had several chances.
The brig in the alliance couldn't take it any more and quit, the rest of us soon followed.
So many rag and bone chests left uncollected on the shores of Shipwreck.
I am drowning in all my self pity.Shrug it off and even try to find some humor in it. I still chuckle everytime a brig or galleon rolls up on me at an outpost and rams my completely empty ship. And there's almost always that little pause when they find me waiting for them onshore, defenseless and unconcerned.
This. Sometimes I even take a little nap on the docks while they are busy wasting their cannonballs on my empty sloop, and that little "What the-?" moment that occurs before they send my sleeping-self to the Ferry is priceless.
(I'm not saying I don't fight like the dirty pirate I am, when the occasion demands it. But if I've just sold all my loot and I don't feel like getting some pvp practice in, why bother?)
@themaster9005 sagte in Jerks:
@gildedthrone219
I have been playing like a week or so and quickly found out there is a contingent of people who seem to only be playing SoT for the joy they get from trying to ruin it for others.What if they play it because they like a good fight? 🤔
And what if you would not try to guess the motives of others?@v@ca-hombre this is it exactly.
Only rarely does sinking cost you anything. Sinking never costs you anything that you haven't already put on the line:
- Did you lose loot? Turn in more often.
-Did you lose supplies? Don't waste so much time stocking up, those extra supplies didn't stop you sinking did they?
-Did you lose "hours of work"? No you didn't, you still spent hours playing a video game whether you cashed in your loot or not.
This game is like playing blackjack at a casino. You don't get to complain if you play all night and then lose everything, you still played. You had every chance to walk away and cash out, you just got unlucky.
9 times out of 10, what you are complaining about is the bruising your ego has taken because you were outsmarted or beaten. My advice would be instead of getting mad about it, take your beatings and learn some humility from them.
Learn to recognise what elements of your fear/anger/shame response are purely ego driven and learn to rise above it. It'll stand you in good stead for recognising and dealing with RL ego-driven frustrations and disappointments.
@boxcar-squidy said in Jerks:
This game is like playing blackjack at a casino. You don't get to complain if you play all night and then lose everything, you still played. You had every chance to walk away and cash out, you just got unlucky.
9 times out of 10, what you are complaining about is the bruising your ego has taken because you were outsmarted or beaten. My advice would be instead of getting mad about it, take your beatings and learn some humility from them.
Spot on analogy!
If Pirates have won over you in a shipbattle or boarding fight , then taking their treasures , sinking their ship should suffice, the spawncamping or keeping the enemy's ship alive so you can just spawnkill them over and over is just sick...
What kind of joy does one or more have by waiting on certain points and then kill them again...Not once ,twice but multiple times...i shudder to see some answers , it seems honor and sportmanship seems words that are lost at the Sea lately...i knew that the Forum Spirit was dwindling but that it sunk this deep in which certain Pirates shout once again to get gud , is just saddening to read ...What's more sad is that many Pirates are evolving in cruel masters or dictators of the Sea this way...
This is indeed a Pirate game in which sinking, swashbuckling was designed to have fun but when you are the better player ,then why do you need to hold on to deeds as spawncamping, calling all kinds of words to get the blood from under people's fingernails or just keep haunting them untill they leave the server...
i said this before and will say it again, this kind of behaviour doesn't bring more Pirates to the Sea,it haunts them away , and if this game becomes so empty that only the sharks stay here or you going to have spawncamp Events orginazed on Twitch and Mixer ,just to show off how many spawnpoints you know?
Come on, it's time to have a Heart here ...Heard about Alliances in the past? One day you fight together the next day you betray eachother , but handling or treating Pirates in a way that hatred and disgust becomes feelings when you read a certain gamertag...Man, some of you are really lost at Sea...
i'm far from perfect and i'm not here to lecture you all but i hope you are mature enough to feel when a Pirate is beaten , you can go further and further untill they get angry , lose the Love of the game or hate you but where are the gains then?
Show sportmanship, sink ,plunder ,kill untill you feel that if you were standing in the other one's Pirate Shoes would start to lose his/her Joy , then it's time to sail away...
This game could be such a Joy but the " Look how many times i can kill you ,while you don't even know from where i shot you ", is a mentality that has already made many Pirates become landlubbers and have walked away , a year more like this and i sail alone...
@clumsy-george Well said. PvP or no PvP, there's no excuse for not being decent to other players. I don't believe that fighting, stealing from or sinking other players is unreasonable, not in a game about Piracy. There's absolutely no need to abuse, insult, taunt, troll or harass people while doing so or while being robbed, fought with or sunk.
If we're being honest here, it's more often the person who is being sunk who starts throwing around abusive slurs. I mostly RP a pirate when I'm sinking people, so I'm never going to be the one shouting racist or homophobic things (also I don't think like that so I don't use those sorts of words).
I can't count the number of times I've had those sorts of things directed at me by salty sailors though. There could be a lot more decency towards each other on both sides of this equation, and nobody is really as innocent as they say they are in all of this.
@gildedthrone219 said in Jerks:
I solo sloop most of the time because my "friends" won't respond to my messages, right? So, of course, I occasionally get attacked by a larger ship. I usually just fork over my loot to save the hassle of a battle and repeated deaths since I suck at the game. What really just makes my blood boil are people that don't even want the loot, they just want to make me suffer! If you are someone who does this, go ahead and recede back into the mouldy primordial soup you came from, please.
you prolly know right that this is a pirate game so and your right a little bit some people just want to watch you suffer because they're messed up
@gildedthrone219 said in Jerks:
I solo sloop most of the time because my "friends" won't respond to my messages, right? So, of course, I occasionally get attacked by a larger ship. I usually just fork over my loot to save the hassle of a battle and repeated deaths since I suck at the game. What really just makes my blood boil are people that don't even want the loot, they just want to make me suffer! If you are someone who does this, go ahead and recede back into the mouldy primordial soup you came from, please.
with all due respect git gud i'm just joking not trying to be mean
@clumsy-george said in Jerks:
If Pirates have won over you in a shipbattle or boarding fight , then taking their treasures , sinking their ship should suffice, the spawncamping or keeping the enemy's ship alive so you can just spawnkill them over and over is just sick...
What kind of joy does one or more have by waiting on certain points and then kill them again...Not once ,twice but multiple times...i shudder to see some answers , it seems honor and sportmanship seems words that are lost at the Sea lately...i knew that the Forum Spirit was dwindling but that it sunk this deep in which certain Pirates shout once again to get gud , is just saddening to read ...What's more sad is that many Pirates are evolving in cruel masters or dictators of the Sea this way...
This is indeed a Pirate game in which sinking, swashbuckling was designed to have fun but when you are the better player ,then why do you need to hold on to deeds as spawncamping, calling all kinds of words to get the blood from under people's fingernails or just keep haunting them untill they leave the server...
i said this before and will say it again, this kind of behaviour doesn't bring more Pirates to the Sea,it haunts them away , and if this game becomes so empty that only the sharks stay here or you going to have spawncamp Events orginazed on Twitch and Mixer ,just to show off how many spawnpoints you know?
Come on, it's time to have a Heart here ...Heard about Alliances in the past? One day you fight together the next day you betray eachother , but handling or treating Pirates in a way that hatred and disgust becomes feelings when you read a certain gamertag...Man, some of you are really lost at Sea...
i'm far from perfect and i'm not here to lecture you all but i hope you are mature enough to feel when a Pirate is beaten , you can go further and further untill they get angry , lose the Love of the game or hate you but where are the gains then?
Show sportmanship, sink ,plunder ,kill untill you feel that if you were standing in the other one's Pirate Shoes would start to lose his/her Joy , then it's time to sail away...
This game could be such a Joy but the " Look how many times i can kill you ,while you don't even know from where i shot you ", is a mentality that has already made many Pirates become landlubbers and have walked away , a year more like this and i sail alone...
not true mate you still sail with me
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