Make outposts safe

  • Hello everyone,

    I have a suggestion, I don't know if it has been discussed before, I can't find anything about it.
    In the game, if you wanna be a good sport, you're not supposed to attack other boats in the areas of outposts. Obviously, everyone does not follow the rule, and I'm very often attacked while I'm selling my treasures. This is becoming very annoying. Would it be possible to add a feature that makes it so you can't attack in these areas ? Or if you do (attack or steal) around an outpost, you lose renown or something like that ? I get that it's a game of pirates, that we can be attacked on sea and we can steal from each other. But this is getting annoying.
    I'm not talking about PvP vs PvE because I think the subject has already been discussed several times, but that could be an interseting middle ground for those who try to stay out of trouble.

    Thank you for your answers and/or suggestions.

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  • @lemontart6141

    Ahoy me matey! There are posts encompassing outposts…

    Here’s just a few for you to read :D

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/post/1598723
    https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/post/1541676
    https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/post/1560894
    https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/post/1560887

  • Hi, thanks, I'll read that :)

  • I was thinking the same that some guards or some kind of authority would be nice on outposts and such. Would make the game a lot better in terms of variation.

    +1 for me.

  • @lemontart6141 said in Make outposts safe:

    Hello everyone,

    I have a suggestion, I don't know if it has been discussed before, I can't find anything about it.
    In the game, if you wanna be a good sport, you're not supposed to attack other boats in the areas of outposts.

    Uhm what ?

    Obviously, everyone does not follow the rule,

    That's because there is no such rule.

    and I'm very often attacked while I'm selling my treasures. This is becoming very annoying.

    Be aware of your surroundings before you dock at an outpost, also keep an eye out for pirates while you're selling.
    Pick a smart place to unload your treasures.
    Don't stay too long on an outpost - sell regularly - do not spend half an hour unloading a four hour haul.

    Would it be possible to add a feature that makes it so you can't attack in these areas ? Or if you do (attack or steal) around an outpost, you lose renown or something like that ? I get that it's a game of pirates, that we can be attacked on sea and we can steal from each other. But this is getting annoying.
    I'm not talking about PvP vs PvE because I think the subject has already been discussed several times, but that could be an interseting middle ground for those who try to stay out of trouble.

    People who don't like PvP would set course to the outpost so they can't be attacked., so this touches on the PvPvE discussion more than you want I guess.
    What about people who just attacked you, stole your loot and sell a square away from you without hindrance. That will become annoying as well.

    Thank you for your answers and/or suggestions.

    No problem.

  • @lemontart6141 said in Make outposts safe:

    Hello everyone,

    I have a suggestion, I don't know if it has been discussed before, I can't find anything about it.
    In the game, if you wanna be a good sport, you're not supposed to attack other boats in the areas of outposts. Obviously, everyone does not follow the rule, and I'm very often attacked while I'm selling my treasures. This is becoming very annoying. Would it be possible to add a feature that makes it so you can't attack in these areas ? Or if you do (attack or steal) around an outpost, you lose renown or something like that ? I get that it's a game of pirates, that we can be attacked on sea and we can steal from each other. But this is getting annoying.
    I'm not talking about PvP vs PvE because I think the subject has already been discussed several times, but that could be an interseting middle ground for those who try to stay out of trouble.

    Thank you for your answers and/or suggestions.

    There is no rule. You need to be aware of your surroundings.

    Though I am curious, where donyou think you saw a rule anout this?

  • A big no from me. No safe places to hand in loot, because that is what it would be. Parking a ship and handing in loot might be the most dangerous and exciting part of the game, as this is when tuckers and/or sneaky pirates attack.

    Remember that half of the value of the loot is in the danger of loosing it. So lets not devalue the loot by adding any form om safe haven system into the game.

  • its not that its a rule but its in the pirates code at every outpost…i believe that is what he is referencinf

  • @madfrito99 no its not. Article 3 is about settling things in game and leaving it in the game.

  • in the pirates code it says something like leave your battles at sea…hence outlost theroectily should be safe spots

  • @madfrito99

    Article 3
    Disputes Are Settled upon the Waves
    None shall quarrel or overly dissent against another crew, but let every engagement be settled by sword, pistol and good seamanship.

    Again this about leaving it in game and not taking a dispute to another platform.

  • @captain-coel but it could be interperted as once you make it to an outpost quarrel is over lol since you are no longer on the waves

  • @madfrito99 why an outpost by that logic all islands are safe? Reading too much into it.

  • @madfrito99 said in Make outposts safe:

    @captain-coel but it could be interperted as once you make it to an outpost quarrel is over lol since you are no longer on the waves

    You are heavily twisting the meaning to fit your needs. What exactly in that rule would limit its meaning just to outposts? If you insist on reading it concretely then you would not be allowed to attack other players on any islands, outposts, or seaposts. Also, underwater (e.g, shipwrecks, shrines) would be off limits since waves occur on the surface of the water. Nothing in the rule specifies outposts, so why would it only apply to them in your interpretation?

    That part of the code is just telling players not to let fights spill over into private messages, fights on the forums, stalking players in other games, and so on. It is a SoT way of saying “keep it in the game” or “leave it in the ring.”

  • @madfrito99 sagte in Make outposts safe:

    @captain-coel but it could be interperted as once you make it to an outpost quarrel is over lol since you are no longer on the waves

    Have you ever heard the phrase "see you on the seas"? By your logic you could say "but I can see other pirates on an island too"

  • It's good to see new players and their passion for the game. But turning an outpost into a safe zone is not a good thing. When a ship is selling its cargo is when it is most vulnerable, it is easier to ambush an anchored vessel than a moving one.
    Before anchoring to sell your loot, check on the horizon and be quick in the sales process. And even if there's no ship on the horizon when docking, be sure to check while you're selling.
    If we turn the outpost into a safe zone, should we do the same with the seapost? And in the case of reaper's hideout, that a PvP zone with all those cannons, will become a safe zone too? After all, people sell loot there.
    Do you understand how this would affect the game, not in a good way?

  • im just saying it could be interperted that way…not sure i would want them as a safe spot then again i see it could be a good thing as in you won the war and made it back safe to an outpost thus free from harm kind of thing…but im not sure

  • @madfrito99
    So would it also be good if you got your loot stolen and now the ones who killed you are safe at an outpost? It works both ways... It's going to hurt a lot more when you get loot stolen.

    As you've advocated for PvE servers in the past, it's not surprising that you would like a minor PvE zone. Safe outposts have a lot of the same pitfalls as safe zones... What stops an enemy crew from boarding your ship and stealing your loot? There's nothing you can do.

  • the game, if you wanna be a good sport, you're not supposed to attack other boats in the areas of outposts. Obviously, everyone does not follow the rule

    Rule what rule? It more a guideline than a rule. Heck, good sport? That still a choice in any game. Respect fellow player or risk getting shot because “trust”

  • @madfrito99 said in Make outposts safe:

    im just saying it could be interperted that way…not sure i would want them as a safe spot then again i see it could be a good thing as in you won the war and made it back safe to an outpost thus free from harm kind of thing…but im not sure

    Not all the battles of this war, which you mentioned, are fought at sea. I really like naval battles, but if that was the only way to steal another crew, maybe the game wouldn't be that interesting, and it was boring with a single way to fight. Preparing an ambush is one of the most fun and exciting things in the game, trying to predict opponents' movements and thoughts is not an easy thing, and it may be boring for some, but each one plays the way he likes

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