Peaceful Mode

@vapor1080 said in Peaceful Mode:

@lil-fokker said in Peaceful Mode:

The game is in constant development.
Rare is proving, nearly every day, that they wish to grow the game for the players.
Give it time.
There will be options relatively soon for you to pirate just as you'd like.

You cant really pirate if you are in a pond with nobody else to steal from lol

I'm trying to stay out of these debates any further, but I will just say that it's hard to imagine there would be a mode where stealing is not allowed in a game that is about pirates and that has "thieves" in the title. Just a thought.

Just doesn't make too much sense if you're asking me, but I'm seeing my way out now as I've participated in far too many of these discussions!

And to everyone else, I hope the discussions here remain respectful, whatever side of the debate you find yourself on!

One of my objections with the passive mode suggestion is that it wastes a ships slot. Now before people start taking that as an insult hold on. Now while your goals is to be left alone, your presence takes up a slot that would might be otherwise filled with a person who actually wants to engage with other pirates on the server, positively or negatively. Add into the fact that if even a couple do this, your stuck in a server with potentially no one else to interact with. Feels like it strays quite far from the vision of unknown player encounters.

@natiredgals said in Peaceful Mode:

@lem0n-curry

(...) Now we sit back (...)

Please don't include me in your - whatever you wanna call it. Not on your side in this, was just not in the mood to report a post.

@vapor1080
I do all the pirating I like without stealing from another player.
I don't really consider my character a pirate.
I'm more an adventurous merchant sailor.

Which is another amazing feature of this game:
A pirate game that doesn't require piracy to play.

@chronodusk
A game about piracy that doesn't require you to ever steal from another player....that's SOT.
It's the individual player that chooses how they behave in this world.
Whether it be pirate, scalawag, sailor or captain of a fishing trawler....it's all up to each player.

I like exploring sunken ships and finding relics on the beaches.
I wouldn't consider my character a pirate. More an opportunistic sailor.

I don't think people who ask for "Sea of Peace" have really thought the whole thing through. While I totally understand the desire for a way to play without being attacked by pirates, there's no simple way to accommodate that desire without imposing unintended negative consequences on the game as a whole. Here are some examples.

If you give people "private servers" where they can farm PvE without the threat of PvP, that creates an imbalance between the value of reputation. It's a much different (easier) game without PvP. The only way to make it fair would be to reduce or eliminate the value of loot in the PvE-only instances, which really sort of defeats the purpose of having them to begin with.

Mixing "peaceful" game mode with normal PvP mode would never work. There's all sorts of ways that could be abused, and it would undermine the spirit (and fun) of the game. It's not feasible nor desirable.

Adding a "peaceful" mode creates an extra burden on Rare's development team to maintain yet another game mode, and necessitates more servers and more resources. It doesn't make sense to stress the game when...

"Peaceful" mode is completely unnecessary. Again, I do understand the desire. I truly get it. But Sea of Thieves without the threat of pirates loses something absolutely fundamental to the game. I'm not a big PvP-oriented person. I'm not particularly good at it, and I usually don't like to attack others without good cause. [Note: "Good cause" can mean different things on different days.] But the absolute best times in this game all involve player interaction. Sometimes it's just the suspense of seeing masts on the horizon, not knowing if they're friendly or hostile. Sometimes it's the thrill of a narrow escape, or a clever deception. Sometimes it's the excitement of a full-on naval battle, or a sword fight on an abandoned beach. It's amazing all the things that can happen in this game, and that's part of its brilliance. That's what makes Sea of Thieves Sea of Thieves. The adventure is never knowing what might happen along your journey.

Sea of Thieves would not be a better game by adding some kind of "peaceful" mode. Quite the contrary. It would lose its soul.

I'd like to add another reason that "peaceful" mode simply isn't necessary in Sea of Thieves. There are days when you'll have no trouble finding like-minded adventurers, all busy doing their own things. You might even be able to form some alliances and share in all the gold and glory. If you find yourself sharing the seas with some really hostile players, maybe you'll have better luck on a different server. Leave the game, start a new session, and there's likely a completely different experience awaiting for you on the high seas.

Finally, it's been repeated over and over but it's true. The more you play, the better you get at handling the various threats you encounter in the Sea of Thieves, including other crews. I am quite familiar with how frustrating it can be to lose your ship to a band of aggressive pirates. But now that I've been playing for well over a year, that rarely happens anymore. When it does happen, I handle it a lot better than I used to because I've had my share of victories as well as defeats. It's all part of the game, and I'm okay with that.

Please stop

@kiyiki said in Peaceful Mode:

That's the same argument made since ultima online about PvPvE vs PvE "the game is losing something if you dont have it". But thats because you enjoy Pvp and saying to someone that a game is better for it is saying that the fun they have in the game is wrong. In every MMOs or COs RPG, Pvp slows your progression, makes everything more dangerous, you could lose your loot and xp and still all those kind of games have some form of PvE mode now and are better for it. Rare made a great game, a lot of people love great coop games but dont like fighting against other players much. There is a lot of easy solutions to balance PvE server that dont involve much work like just adding bots instead of players as a danger.

Sea of Thieves isn't an MMO or RPG. It isn't like any other game, really. And it's not fair to claim I'm just against "peaceful mode" because I "enjoy" PvP. Sometimes I do, but not always, and it certainly wasn't always that way. The longer I play the more I appreciate the PvP element to the game, but it's not something I usually seek out. For the first few months I was awful at PvP and usually lost. Without that danger, however...it's just not the same game. It's fundamental to the game design.

My crew and I logged on Sunday night for a while. All three of us were tired from the weekend (I'm a musician so that's my "work week"). We just wanted to unwind and relax with some low-key stuff, like fishing. But while we were anchored off Sharkbait Cove, we still had to be aware of other ships in the area. Twice during our stay, ships anchored on the far side of the island, apparently to complete voyages. It made for a few tense moments, but ultimately they minded their own business and sailed away.

Later when we were docked at a sea post to sell our fish, a sloop we'd seen earlier came barreling towards us. We shouted warnings not to approach without communicating, but he came in anyway. We came really close to sinking him, but it turned out he was just a noob. Since we were ending our session, we gave him all the rest of the loot we had on board. It saved us a trip to the outpost and made his day.

The point of all this is that while it's nice to be "friendly," it's the possibility of action that makes it exciting and worthwhile. Without that element of uncertainty and danger...the game falls flat.

Anyway I may be wrong but when you see so many people asking for it maybe its for a reason, maybe, simply maybe the game could be really fun and enjoyable for many people without PvP involed...

I'm sure many people would find the game fun without the PvP. But I still think it would be a mistake for all the reasons I mentioned in my previous post.

@bugaboo-bill said in Peaceful Mode:

It's ridiculous, pitiful, jealous and nitpicking.

It's scaling reward with game difficulty, promoting equality amongst players, and motivating players to play all game modes. How terrible.

@lem0n-curry said in Peaceful Mode:

Perhaps stop with the generalizations of other players you seem to flaunt all over the place.

Yeah I wouldn't be too hopeful. All this guy does in these threads is generalize the feedback of people that disagree with him in a condescending manner.

PS. Don't believe a word they say about wanting actual feedback. They literally spent an entire day last week trying to convince me I was a bad person for engaging in PVP. XD

PvE doesnt present enough of a challenge by itself. Solo slooping argument is a tired argument, because every game has a hardmode. Setting sail solo IRL would be precarious at best, and the believability the title's platform present reflects that.

Personally, I think they should implement friendly fire and make it more difficult.
It would force players to utilize better tactics than just blitzing every ship on the horizon, and force players to not fight in close proximity of crewmates.

Open PVPVE is pretty intrinsic to the title, and asking for a passive mode when there are a myriad of discord, XBL club, and LFG forums dedicated to pacifying servers for exactly what is being asked for seems pretty redundant and disrespectful to the developers.

@killer-9639 pvp is a core part of the game

Peaceful mode, really???

When are they going to add the sugar plum land, Disney characters, my little pony and everything nice??? [sarcastic tone]

Mods please lock this thread, waste of the discussion.

@bulganzi said in Peaceful Mode:

With a name like “Killer” I’m surprised you’re complaining about being sunk. It happens to all of us. The constant fear someone is gonna come is what I feel makes the game thrilling to play.
Be more pirate.

Aye!!! Yes, be more pirate.

I hope all you goats and sheep get your mode so full of peace that your voyages become so dull and uneventful that they seem mundane to you.

But if you attain the rank of Pirate Legend doing so, doesn't it make Rare's masterpiece of a game something of a joke?

@friedwilly said in Peaceful Mode:

Peaceful mode, really???

When are they going to add the sugar plum land, Disney characters, my little pony and everything nice??? [sarcastic tone]

Mods please lock this thread, waste of the discussion.

Here it is, the so awaited PVP / PVE servers split!

With brand new achievements such as: Hug 5 crewmembers while flying the Teddy Bear flag that shows you on the map, awaiting friendly encounters!

Can't wait to unlock the Mickey Mouse themed foam sword meself maties.

@bloodybil Love it! Need to add achievement awards for just being present. We will call it the 'Snowflake Achievement'.

@friedwilly said in Peaceful Mode:

@bloodybil Love it! Need to add achievement awards for just being present. We will call it the 'Snowflake Achievement'.

Although, we already have a few similar to that: set sail out of an outpost, eat a banana... lol. Might aswell have one that says: "exist".