Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.

@itamimaru I made a few friends by joining an open crew on Galleons. I usually play with my wife and sometimes my son but if they are not available I don't care for solo, it's pointless to solo it adds nothing but hardship, you don't get extra loot so why do it?

Maybe you enjoy playing alone and there is nothing wrong with that but I think if the game had a PVE safe zone it would be rather pointless and way too easy. This is coming from a guy who plays on PVE servers in MMO games and doesn't PVP except for out of defense.

@itamimaru said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

@zormis Thank you for understanding and thank you for expressing your opinion.
Some people and a fair amount of them don't have the ability to make friends, Including me.
You only mentioned one of my solutions, and the harshest one too. you said the game would be too easy. I was talking about how the game is (unfair) , not easy or hard. because it's literally impossible to 1 v 4.
i don't think it will be pointless , i don't see the game like you see i ( THERE"S A SHIP LETS FIGHT IT) mindset. all i want is to play the actual game , the 3 activites in the game. to dig chests, kill skeletons and collect chickens, there's a fourth which is fighting other ships because how lazy people are to do the work themselves. so why should i foucs on 1 thing instead of the 3 other things?
Thank you.

When I see a ship I don't try to fight it, I try to make allies, I only fight them when they attack first. I don't care to PVP because honestly I feel bad, I feel like I'm picking on someone but if they attack first I do enjoy killing them.

As far as PVE server, would you agree you should only earn 1/4 of the cash and take 4x longer to hit pirate legend because the game loses most of the challenge, not to mention people shouldn't be able to ally on PVE because if you can't kill them, why not?

@itamimaru said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

@zormis So let's say, a galleon with 4 legends attacked a poor mid/early game player like you , so i have to fight this back? that would be pure stupidity.
I also never attack any other ship , and like you i do feel bad for attacking people. maybe you can attack back because you have people who play with you.

and why should this happen in the PVE server? the game already has a lot of challenges like kraken, mega, skull forts and it's the lack of their content is the problem no in us. they could make it more challenging with harder riddles, more appearances in this AI threats and so on.
why people won't ally on PVE? we can create an alliance with other ships and share loot, what's the problem in this? is it because that i CAN kill them i will ally with them? OK. hear this.
when cursed sail came out i was allied with another ship while i had another player, we got like 4 of this skelly ships and guess what? alliance dissolved and they attacked us even though we still didn't get any loot. they took it all
so this alliance thing is pure bs in my opinion, a community this toxic has no place for alliances.

I have been chased by a galleon but sloops are faster against the wind and they out maneuver a galleon so I don't worry about them, they usually give up as soon as they see they're not dealing with a noob. They also never sneak up on me because they're big, if they catch me off guard it's because I am not paying attention.

Also, lets not pretend fighting off PVE is anywhere near as hard as fighting off other players. The Kracken is rare and it's never sunk any ship I have been on. Skeletons are easily to outsmart and if they kill you, so what you respawn at your ship go back and try again, the only thing you lose is time. Megladon also is not worrisome, I took down skeleton ships with a meg attacking us with 3 people on a sloop (guy ship had sunk and we picked him up). Heck we stayed a live with a ship full of holes, no wood left and a meg attacking us while we went back to an OP just by bailing water on a sloop. I don't consider the meg a threat as so much as a nuisance.
About the ally part, most of the time if you want to be honest in your argument you will concede in most cases on a PVE server people would ally and do their own things, you would lose nothing and gain everything. Heck some people can just ally go afk while you do all the work, you probably won't even notice them afking because other people allying will be turning in loot.

@itamimaru

I can understand how you feel. I sail mostly with my spouse on a sloop. Other times on a brig or galleon with other family and friends when they want to sail along. Can have the most fun just the two of us enjoying the adventure of what is on the horizon, sitting on the next island, and just doing the voyages. However, we never shy away from engagements with others though. We send them all to the deep bottom no matter how big their ship is when the situation calls for it.

Yes, it can be harder on your own, but not truly impossible. I would say try to form or join alliances. However, there are many who can use the heart pennant just to put a cannonball through the hearts of other players. Rather it is the idea of being a “true pirate”, boredom, or simply being a toxic player, some can really sink someone else’s fun like you speak to when all you want to do is to be your own pirate sailing your own way.

That is unfortunately the double edge sword that both promotes and hurts the game Sea of Thieves is. Because it is a “pirate game” and it is “Sea of Thieves” and not “Sea of Friends” many people think the code demands the game is only played that way. Many find attacking and stealing from others brings them more fun. Then there are those that use “PvP” as a mechanism to bully and hurt others.

We all have to accept the sea is not always calm with the mix of ships and crews we will sail into if one plays this game. Since Sea of Thieves is a pirate game a lot of the community is always going to be against this. When it honestly comes down to it, playing the way you are asking for really would not hurt anyone. No one loses either way. So, what some may want to just casually sail completing just voyages and the other challenges the game itself offers. May be a lot more pirates out there if all flavor of pirates could enjoy Sea of Thieves the way they like most. Everyone is equal by design. So, there is nothing players with opposing ways to play a pirate gain or lose. In the end it seems everyone would win the more people buy, play, and remain playing Sea of Thieves sailing the way they want to in an open world sandbox game.

There are others like us that uphold an alliance and protect those in it when we sail under one. We never mix up the signals of the flags we fly. So, I would urge you to still find those that want to and will sail together as you are looking to do. Can be some safety in numbers. There are a lot of pirates out there like you than you think. We can come across more who shout out “we are friendly” and actually play that way than want to stab you in the back and sink you.

Just do not give up. Always sail with caution as one should in a world full of pirates. Try to improve your evasion skills. Practice sinking ships and do not hesitate slinging your own cursed cannonballs back to slip away. No matter what stand tall being the pirate you want to be.

Things could always change in the future. Rare said recently they know players making up different crews want to be able to sail together as an option and it will happen in the future. Find yourself friends when and where you can for one day it seems you will be able to sail more like you vision. There can be some harmony in the way we all sail. There is a motto after all that says “We Shall Sail Together”.

@averageheroz said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

Can someone confirm this for me..I thought I seen a post in a different forum saying that rare has already said safe zones, private servers..nothing like that will ever happen..is this true..? I hope so that way we can stop making post about it.

Not talking about server modes, safe zones, and the like. It was an answer to a question at a small recent event about players being able to join the same servers. Something that has been called for a lot. It sounded down the road a ways for sure. Still will offer an option that makes sense just as they answered the person’s question the same way.

@katttruewalker said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

@itamimaru

Ahoy there,

I know you mentioned difficulty in making friends, however given that PVE servers aren't an option at the moment, you might want to consider one of the following, even as a temporary measure -

Sea of Thieves discord, where you are able to form or join crews

Join the Sea of Thieves Discord Server!

Sea of Thieves is available on Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S, Windows 10/11, PlayStation 5, Battle.net and Steam! | 438013 members

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The Crew thread which does contain a number of fleets and individual pirates -

https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/category/51/find-a-crew

and finally the Pirate Training Academy, which is a fine group of very friendly and experienced pirates -

https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/73566/the-old-salts-always-here-to-help-piratical-training-academy

Very cool!

@itamimaru said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

@x-crowheart-x Thank you a lot for your kind and motivating words , It is nice to see an opposing way of view but informative and positive one.
I agree with most of what you said , but i think there's a point you are missing a bit.
My problem isn't in the PvP system , i respect that there's a lot of people who love it and i am not asking for it to be completely removed ofcourse. my point is creating something for those who want to sail safely and have no pvp skills like myself. for people who want to experience the game in the different way they see it.
for example , i define pirate differently , to me a pirate means chests , lots of chests. gold. beating skeles , fighting kraken.
for some other a pirate is a thief , and that's fine i don't care what they think.
the point is the game feels like it's for only one side of the community while the other side is completely left out.
thank you again for your comment c:

No sir I did not miss your point at all. I do not oppose your point at all. We align as kin of the sea more than you seemed to realize from my reply. I wholeheartedly agree that everyone should be able to play the way the want to play. They should be the pirate they want to be. The speaking trumpet of the opposing point of view can seem louder and more of a preference than it is. That is why all voices are needed to find harmony.

My spouse and I sail more the way you like to sail. We do not purposely set sail to just hunt and sink players. The difference is we never shy away from a fight when someone mistakenly brings it. We steal only what has been stolen. We come to the aid of others as a shield chasing away or sinking more naughty pirates when the sea calls for it.

There should be an appropriately implemented option to allow a way to sail like you ask for. Like I said there is nothing to lose and a lot to gain for everyone. All those that oppose a choice of the type of sea to sail on might be more stubborn than is good in the long voyage ahead.

Until then Katt and others here offered some great options. There will always be lots of great pirates out there who believe we can and shall sail together if that is how the sea calls to you. We will keep an eye out for you on the horizon when we look through our spyglasses.

It's all about risk/ reward. Playing solo with nothing and no-one to stop you would get really boring really quickly. It's not rewarding at all.

You might not have the loot but you have a story about an epic chase with a galleon and you almost escaped but were beaten after an unfortunate turn.

@itamimaru said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

I understand that it is a pirate game, but I don't see it going any far if it's only for (some) people who are mostly children/trolls.

So in your opinion I'm a child or a troll when I play this game and sink a ship with treasure?

There's ways that will make it playable for both sides:
1- PVE servers: the simple idea in every single multiplayer game. if you like to pvp go to the PVP servers and destroy everyone, I don't care. I just want peace of exploring and actually level up.

Since there's no actual loss when dying without loot there's no reason to not do it in the current enviroment.

2- Safe mode : so GTA-V online mode is ALL about multiplayer, but you know what? There's a freaking safe mode. turn it on, and go buy whatever you want.

And Safe mode in GTA Online works so well. A person starts griefing people and when they retaliate they just turn on Safe mode, in GTA it's even worse because a CEO can't use it and has most to lose. Not a really good example. Since GTA Online CEO missions/ MC business missions are what's comparable to doing voyages.

3- Safe zone: at least make the outposts safe. outpost is being camped ESPECIALLY when a new DLC like forsaken shores come out and there's only 1 outpost there, that will still make people chase me and I will run. but once I arrive at the outpost they can't touch me.

Safe zones would actually help the other people more then you. They'll just "Help" you sell the loot and you can't do anything about this.

The game was made with PvPvE in mind. Muting this would just ruin it for most people. If we had PvE servers the PvE people would get bored (because it's boring to have absolutely no opposition) and the normal servers would have a lot more encounters with really agressive players. It's a delicate balance and I'm glad Rare doesnt cave to the few people angry at a little lost loot. 3 skeleton captains? My crew generally sails with 10+ items on board and if we lose it we lose it big deal.

I keep seeing so many threads like this one. I read through them all. I have already responded to this one. Even though I have nothing against the gameplay as it currently is, I find it wrong that Rare and so many players are against it.

I cannot remember the interview I saw a while back where a Rare employee said PVE servers would “never” happen. That is just arrogance. The typically opposing player argument is players should not have no risk and get off free of being blown up by their cannonballs. That is plainly selfishness.

No one loses anything by having two modes of gameplay. I said it many times the only in game reward is cosmetic. Some say there is no gameplay without PvP. That is not true as there are constantly people asking to be allowed to play that way. The vast majority of other crews we have encountered in game all these months want to play that way.

I think Rare’s stance is because they refuse to admit more players want to play SoT without PvP. I think most player opposition is more out of fear of not having players to sink.

The way it is now both type of players are suffering. Allowing pirates to just sail the open sea and battle skeletons would give them more of what their hearts desire. Having more pirates who thirst for cannonballs busting wood and their swords drawing blood together would give them more of what they want.

Instead of sailing around hoping for a random chance to be the pirate you want to be, would it not be better to actually set sail knowing you will have the experience and fun you are sailing for? Right now more players are losing fun and many having a bad experience. The sea is becoming more empty because of it.

Allowing both sides to have more fun their own way, all pirates win. More pirates having fun and stay sailing, Rare wins. In the end we all win.

@itamimaru Just curious, but what platform do you play on, is it XBox or PC?

It would be cool to be able to be a "hired gun" in the game. A way for PVE players to be able to hire PVP guys as mercenaries to protect them. PVE servers are not the answer.