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@zaannox thats true to a point...but grieving shouldnt be laod in the game either. I dont complain to much , but there has been plenty times where players out number a solo player and all thet do is just keep hanging on the boat and just keep killing the solo over and over. Where that makes the game no fun!! Kill me take my loot fine..but to just sit on the players boat and keep killing him every second he spawns back..that is where it gets ridiculous.

@gift3dsil3nt1 Just balance the crews on a server into pvp skill ranges. If they are good then they meet others the same, if not then they aren't griefed by wasters with more time on yheir hands than they should have.

These new crew types could be the ever so wanted man o war ships everoNE wants to see. Your a pirate legend we get it your really good at this game but if I could sail over to the royal navy, do you think you could take on the man o war and another galleon. This gives everyone ore challenges to overcome and it also give the game something else to do. Just do it already rare you know it's a great idea

@m1sterpunch they just need a new type of crew like say there are 2 new crews one set on sinking and destroying ships building up a level of notorious and they get gold from how high the level is when they turn in loot from sunken ships. Then you could have like a royal navy side that got more gold from those types of bad ships that they turned in loot from and the more ships they sunk the more famous and get a gold bonus. This keeps the pirate legends with something to do and keep us lower levels a way to get around with out losing everything all day long. You would be able to see other types of ships on the map at all times like the reaper flags. If just picking up loot you could try and get help from the navy by sailing over to where they are thus initiating battle with other grief ship letting lower levels actually level up. It solves issues with people who don't have friends either just join the navy or join the other side. Then we could jeep more of an atual pirate game if you are so good at the game there needs to be someone better to keep things at an even playing feild. Plus the guys looking to just test their mettle on the seas would have something worth doing cause most of the time the only way I let my ship go is when it's already been emptied.

Something needs to be done with making alliances.everyone is going to say it's a pirate game I get it. What I don't understand that if you join an alliance why can you kill your new crew mates. When join up to do let's say a skull fort you can accidentally kill your teammates. If you can't do anything with that, I like the idea of having mercanary work for pirate legends to let's say keep the seas fair. I've been followed around for like three hours by a group of pirate legends that don't have anything to do because this game doesn't offer much like the only enemy is a skeleton. Three hours of losing everything because sloop to galleon of very experienced players is almost impossible to fight your way out of it. I never start fight I only defend my self. There should voyages for people to go out on bounties of people breaking alliance and stealing your loot because it's an easy target to find. And also voyages for people looking to sink ships you know to keep the balance. And when in that voyage the ship should have to have certain colors or flags so people can get a clear idea of what the ships intentions are. Too many people are on this game with nothing to do but pvp it makes the game almost unbearable some days and when they are out I shut my console off. Once again I agree it's a pirate game, but in legends of pirates they all had a famous good guy trying to knock them down a peg or two. When I play world of tanks I'm matched against players of the same level. Too bad you don't get your money for a game you find takes way too much time out of life to get anywhere I guess we all make mistakes. Just don't be the game company that says oh well it's good enough as is. Be the innovative company that can make the game fun for all players not just for the people that do nothing but play sea of thieves.

@KattTruewalker
Thanks for that Katt. I wasn't sure and it would be excusable anyway. I suppose I have hoped that there is chance that Rare could think again though as I've said before I'd like to be encountering pirates where the odds are a bit more reasonable.

I find it v hard to react to pvp situations for a variety of reasons, including having smashed my right hand 3 years ago. Movement has become reasonable but with no feeling in the fingers so it makes control accuracy a major pressure.

@itamimaru I’m gonna try not to be as much of a p***k as I am with my other posts but pve servers is an all around bad idea to the future of this game.

Reasons

-splitting the servers to be pve and pvp would be a huge expenditure of time, resources, and people, not because more work to maintain two separate groups of servers but because the dev team would have to split up even more to accommodate this change. You can’t have the devs only work on pve content at that point, they’ll need to add pvp content, then you gotta balance that content and not neglect either pvers or pvpers. As of right now there are only pve updates to the game but it feels balanced due to open world pvp. Categorize the servers into pvp and pve and now you force the devs to work on pvp updates as well because it wouldn’t make sense to add pve content to those servers.

-how would these servers work? Is your character shared amongst both? If not, do you need separate accounts or just separate characters for each server group?

• what about as you suggest safe zones? That would ruin the pvp servers, everyone would either camp the border of those safe zones or people would all rush straight to the safe zone when they get any loot, devaluing the pvp.

-For pve servers, there would be a huge issue with people keeping interest. Granted you and a lot of others might not like players being able to sink you, but for others it’s what adds to the game. If you take away pvp, there is near zero risk vs all the reward, unless you’re bad at sailing.

-things like skull forts would have to be reworked for pve servers. How would loot work? Does the ship that enters the fort first get to take it, or does the crew that picks it up? In the latter, people would just camp out till you finished it. In the former, you would have everyone rush into a zone and then everyone else would have to give up on it. The lack of content right now is an issue everyone is worried about. Taking away content like forts, voyages, ad skeleton ships to be reworked in a pve sense vs adding new things would be a step backwards for Rare.

TL DR: Pve servers are a bad idea. Balance is key.

@itamimaru

I sincerely hope that Rare sticks to the promise for no safe zones.
That being said though, I feel your pain.

Try open crews when you can, even on a small ship like a brig. If you're lucky you will get on a ship with two players that play together already and maybe will be able to play with them in the future if the session plays out well.

Last night I was on a sloop with a friend and we successfully defended a skull fort from a 2 sloop alliance and it was some of the best times I've had playing the game. Hone your skills until you welcome being outnumbered and the victories you have will be so much more rewarding.

But as someone who often still solos on a sloop, My advice for you is to turn in often and if you don't have loot, don't run, even from a galleon. If you sail well, you can out maneuver them and hold your ground. It might make them think twice later on if you're on the same server WITH loot.

The more you engage with an enemy player, the more confidence you will have with each new hostile encounter. Until eventually you will DARE players to provoke you and that is a great feeling.

@trickrtreat01 that's a great idea bro. Mercenary job I like it.

It would be cool to be able to be a "hired gun" in the game. A way for PVE players to be able to hire PVP guys as mercenaries to protect them. PVE servers are not the answer.

@stratcat51

It wasn't a slip, but given that Rare have discounted NPC ships quite vehemently in the past and now we have cursed skeleton ships, it's always wise to assume Rare have the prerogative of changing their plans if the suggestion fits into their vision for the design of the game.

@itamimaru Just curious, but what platform do you play on, is it XBox or PC?

I keep seeing so many threads like this one. I read through them all. I have already responded to this one. Even though I have nothing against the gameplay as it currently is, I find it wrong that Rare and so many players are against it.

I cannot remember the interview I saw a while back where a Rare employee said PVE servers would “never” happen. That is just arrogance. The typically opposing player argument is players should not have no risk and get off free of being blown up by their cannonballs. That is plainly selfishness.

No one loses anything by having two modes of gameplay. I said it many times the only in game reward is cosmetic. Some say there is no gameplay without PvP. That is not true as there are constantly people asking to be allowed to play that way. The vast majority of other crews we have encountered in game all these months want to play that way.

I think Rare’s stance is because they refuse to admit more players want to play SoT without PvP. I think most player opposition is more out of fear of not having players to sink.

The way it is now both type of players are suffering. Allowing pirates to just sail the open sea and battle skeletons would give them more of what their hearts desire. Having more pirates who thirst for cannonballs busting wood and their swords drawing blood together would give them more of what they want.

Instead of sailing around hoping for a random chance to be the pirate you want to be, would it not be better to actually set sail knowing you will have the experience and fun you are sailing for? Right now more players are losing fun and many having a bad experience. The sea is becoming more empty because of it.

Allowing both sides to have more fun their own way, all pirates win. More pirates having fun and stay sailing, Rare wins. In the end we all win.

It's all about risk/ reward. Playing solo with nothing and no-one to stop you would get really boring really quickly. It's not rewarding at all.

You might not have the loot but you have a story about an epic chase with a galleon and you almost escaped but were beaten after an unfortunate turn.

@itamimaru said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

I understand that it is a pirate game, but I don't see it going any far if it's only for (some) people who are mostly children/trolls.

So in your opinion I'm a child or a troll when I play this game and sink a ship with treasure?

There's ways that will make it playable for both sides:
1- PVE servers: the simple idea in every single multiplayer game. if you like to pvp go to the PVP servers and destroy everyone, I don't care. I just want peace of exploring and actually level up.

Since there's no actual loss when dying without loot there's no reason to not do it in the current enviroment.

2- Safe mode : so GTA-V online mode is ALL about multiplayer, but you know what? There's a freaking safe mode. turn it on, and go buy whatever you want.

And Safe mode in GTA Online works so well. A person starts griefing people and when they retaliate they just turn on Safe mode, in GTA it's even worse because a CEO can't use it and has most to lose. Not a really good example. Since GTA Online CEO missions/ MC business missions are what's comparable to doing voyages.

3- Safe zone: at least make the outposts safe. outpost is being camped ESPECIALLY when a new DLC like forsaken shores come out and there's only 1 outpost there, that will still make people chase me and I will run. but once I arrive at the outpost they can't touch me.

Safe zones would actually help the other people more then you. They'll just "Help" you sell the loot and you can't do anything about this.

The game was made with PvPvE in mind. Muting this would just ruin it for most people. If we had PvE servers the PvE people would get bored (because it's boring to have absolutely no opposition) and the normal servers would have a lot more encounters with really agressive players. It's a delicate balance and I'm glad Rare doesnt cave to the few people angry at a little lost loot. 3 skeleton captains? My crew generally sails with 10+ items on board and if we lose it we lose it big deal.

@a-10-flyer @Itamimaru
Have you tried to join the SoT Discord? I recently joined a SoT community on Facebook and played with a couple of dudes and dudettes. Sure, not everyone has the same playstyle, but you can meet new people and befriend who you like.

For the Dutch players, we have setup our own (our = someone else) Discord server where ppl seek others to play with.
According to every Changelog, there are also some ways to search for ppl through Xbox communities, but i have no experience with that.

The game was intended as a PVP, without the danger of other player encounters, (other than the awsome water mechanic) there isn't much to do..

@itamimaru Thank you!!! I am in the same boat (no pun intended), I have no friends who own this game so any time I play its alone. And I have only had one positive experience with the open crew feature and that was in the beta. Since of the few times I've tried joining or having a random crew, they will not communicate or in the last instance, the other member took all of my skulls and threw them overboard while we were sailing. Of course I did not realize what was going on until after the fact, also they did nothing to help run the ship or search for treasure. Part way through this game they left (after dumping the hard earned skulls) and another play joined and intentionally ran out ship aground while I was on an island digging up treasure chests. Now, as far as playing solo, I enjoy being out and not seeing another ship or masts on the horizon, because every time I see another ship regardless of if I'm just just starting or have had a rare and lucky game of fun, they invade my ship and camp it so they can constantly spawn kill me, and no matter where I spawn on my ship they are always behind me. So, now that my rant is over, I agree 100%, Safe Mode/Passive Mode but only for solo players as we have no one to watch our backs.

@itamimaru No

@itamimaru said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

There's ways that will make it playable for both sides:
1- PVE servers: the simple idea in every single multiplayer game. if you like to pvp go to the PVP servers and destroy everyone, I don't care. I just want peace of exploring and actually level up.
2- Safe mode : so GTA-V online mode is ALL about multiplayer, but you know what? There's a freaking safe mode. turn it on, and go buy whatever you want.
3- Safe zone: at least make the outposts safe. outpost is being camped ESPECIALLY when a new DLC like forsaken shores come out and there's only 1 outpost there, that will still make people chase me and I will run. but once I arrive at the outpost they can't touch me.

If you don't agree with me that's fine. just respect an opinion and a suggestion.

1. the world is not that big, the world is all discovered, so there isn't much in the exploration gameplay. This game has 3 missions... that you repeat the same way without any extra difficulty as you level up (just longer). If you think about it a game has to have a goal and something to stop you from achieving this goal. In Mario, it's to save the princess, the barriers are the goombas and bowsers. In sea of thieves, the goal is to hand in the missions, the barriers are the players trying to prevent you from getting/handing in those trasures. Having a PvE server in relation to sea of thieves would be like playing super mario without enemies or bowser. just head to the castle and grab the princess... congrats you achieved... nothing...

2. Safemode: GTAV has safemode... every open world mission is disabled, combat is disabled and the rest of the missions/races are instanced matches (4v4deathmatch /Racing, etc...) If we add passive mode in Sea of thieves, we need to disable all missions. GH/OOS/Merch and we would also need to disable combat... so no forts either...

3. Safezone, I would be ok with it, simply because, counterintuitively, will create more PvP... honestly if I want pvp the first thing ill do is to go and blockade that safezone, ally myself with other pirates and team up to kill anyone coming in or out. there is your new difinition of spawncamping. (do you want to start that thread now? "remove safezone because all the pirates blockade it" or are you going to wait until they implement it?)

@itamimaru

I didn't see this when first posted.

There are plenty of people out here who feel like you do. Unlike @TriplePlayed I have yet to return to play and me and the family dropped out a matter of weeks after the game was released.

You have had a few replies and few of the the usual grumbles about such requests and Rare saying 'never', though that was a long while back and I noted @KattTruewalker used the phrase 'at this time' in her reply, possibly a slip who knows.

Personally I have been asking for crews pvp to be ranked and for them to be matched into groups on servers so pvp is better balanced on player/full crew pvp score. The reason I requested that was to respect and retain the pvpve environment and risk of encounters of the pvp kind, but not to the point you or your crew don't have a cat in hells chance of surviving the encounter.

Yep. I would love this. I started playing again recently and have been having fun with the rowboats and cargo runs. But I have quickly been reminded why I stopped playing. I don't want anything to do with pvp. I just want to kill skeletons and dig up treasure.

I'll probably stop playing for a awhile now because being forced into pvp is very frustrating and not the type of experience I want out of this game.

If Rare puts in a PVE mode then I would probably play every day. Without it, I may play every few months.

@itamimaru I'll shoot a friend invite your way on the Xbox app and we can play in a couple hours if you'd like! (Currently at work)

@itamimaru said in Safe mode/PVE Servers , please help make it happen.:

@x-crowheart-x Thank you a lot for your kind and motivating words , It is nice to see an opposing way of view but informative and positive one.
I agree with most of what you said , but i think there's a point you are missing a bit.
My problem isn't in the PvP system , i respect that there's a lot of people who love it and i am not asking for it to be completely removed ofcourse. my point is creating something for those who want to sail safely and have no pvp skills like myself. for people who want to experience the game in the different way they see it.
for example , i define pirate differently , to me a pirate means chests , lots of chests. gold. beating skeles , fighting kraken.
for some other a pirate is a thief , and that's fine i don't care what they think.
the point is the game feels like it's for only one side of the community while the other side is completely left out.
thank you again for your comment c:

No sir I did not miss your point at all. I do not oppose your point at all. We align as kin of the sea more than you seemed to realize from my reply. I wholeheartedly agree that everyone should be able to play the way the want to play. They should be the pirate they want to be. The speaking trumpet of the opposing point of view can seem louder and more of a preference than it is. That is why all voices are needed to find harmony.

My spouse and I sail more the way you like to sail. We do not purposely set sail to just hunt and sink players. The difference is we never shy away from a fight when someone mistakenly brings it. We steal only what has been stolen. We come to the aid of others as a shield chasing away or sinking more naughty pirates when the sea calls for it.

There should be an appropriately implemented option to allow a way to sail like you ask for. Like I said there is nothing to lose and a lot to gain for everyone. All those that oppose a choice of the type of sea to sail on might be more stubborn than is good in the long voyage ahead.

Until then Katt and others here offered some great options. There will always be lots of great pirates out there who believe we can and shall sail together if that is how the sea calls to you. We will keep an eye out for you on the horizon when we look through our spyglasses.

@skullmanbeard i looove the talk options in this game , they can be funny sometimes!