Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@captainflintkin I’m an absolute beast at PUBG and fortnite i can kill someone with every gun in either game. I can’t kill anyone with the eye of reach or pistol neither can my friends I’m a level 29,27,23 been playing since Mar. 20th i waited outside Gamestop before it was open to get the game now it’s not even fun to play because the blunderbuss is useless and everyone besides me server hops

The thing is you are comparing games that are completely different. Apples and oranges here.

SoT is nothing like a FPS, and it shouldn't be.

Additionally, you said you can't kill anyone with the other weapons, so allowing one weapon that is the end all be all means it's broken.

They need to find a balance between weapons, so they chose to make all damage equal and add other advantages. The bus is spread so less need for aim, the pistol is accurate and the eye has the scope. If the bus can do more damage then it's not balanced. If it's not balanced, whats the option of the other weapons?

@wildeyedjokr The only reason I went full troll on his is the fact that he keeps ignoring and dodging questions about his weak logic. He just wants to be right so badly that anything other than his point of view is ignored. I hate that if you make a post expect people to have different opinions.

@captainflintkin agree

@brutalpandax You are not suppose to be able to do that dude you cannot win a fight 1vs4 ever. It was happened to me 1 guy boarded our gallion 4vs1 one shot killed us all this is not possible in a balanced game.

@captainflintkin said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@wildeyedjokr The only reason I went full troll on his is the fact that he keeps ignoring and dodging questions about his weak logic. He just wants to be right so badly that anything other than his point of view is ignored. I hate that if you make a post expect people to have different opinions.

Basically at the end of the day, I agree with the current blunderbuss changes.

But I also feel that people should be allowed to post their feedback without facing ridicule in a game that's rated E and run by the same folks that made Banjo. Whether you agree with it or not, there are better ways to voice your disagreements than to insult the other users intelligence/skill level.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@captainflintkin why? you all have access to the same weapons, if he took down 4 of you he is better than all of you combined. that is part of the game, we all have the same options.

Cause then that one weapon is out of balance with the rest. Why use a pistol or the eye or even the sword?

@brutalpandax Because I don't use it dude I don't care if that weapon is the most OP weapon in the game I refuse to abuse any part of the game to my advantage I almost never go for boarding either, because its not balanced I don't find it enjoyable can I kill all of them and sink their ship if I board them yes I can. I know how to abuse the problems this game has and I do it sometimes when absolutely necessary , but I try my best not to. The best feeling in this game is when you sink a ship like you are suppose to in a good old fashioned cannonball battle.

@brutalpandax Dude literally an hour ago i shot a guy with the blunderbuss he then shot me with a pistol i shot him again then he shot me again with the pistol i died he should have at least died the second time i shot him with the blunderbuss before he could get his second shot in with the pistol I’m furious and so distraught because SoT is my favorite game rightnow i loved the blunderbuss but I now might stop playing because I can’t get any kills with the EoR and pistol I stopped playing for a week to because I couldn’t use a second weapon now they fixed that I come back to the game to find my fav gun pooped on total B.S

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 pistol gives you medium range, eye gives you maximum range, sword does a lot of damage and doesn't run out of ammo. buss you have to put yourself at a disadvantage (get close) to receive its advantage.

That is what they were designed for more or less, close, med and long range firearms.

However, you can't deny it becoming the main PVP weapon of choice due to its one hit ability. Personally, I wish the game had more sword fights. The dodge mechanics were really only good (In my experience), for dodging blunderbuss rounds.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 pistol gives you medium range, eye gives you maximum range, sword does a lot of damage and doesn't run out of ammo. buss you have to put yourself at a disadvantage (get close) to receive its advantage.

But that's not how it really played out now, is it? The bus was meta and the only weapon people used.
As well I believe they all have about the same bullet drop off, the only difference is the bus spread. I also believe the devs are trying to drive people to use the sword more than just jumping with the damn bus.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@captainflintkin the whole time im saying that i can, i could take down galleons alone. maybe you can't but i could. that was part of my point. i can handle spawn campers when it was 2 campers and when i was solo and i had the buss before but now i can't. there is no advantage for me...............read everything you said up till now, and would like to say that if you soloed a galleon they were just bad players or even good players that weren't in a good day, in no way, shape or form the one man sloop was meant to be able to destroy the 4 man galleon. there thats it. the nerf to the blunderbuss was needed because of the mechanics of the game.... if its 1v.2 you should lose (if you win its a really good thing but the odds are agains you).
Also... dont say there is no advantage for me... you chose to sail solo, you have no advantage over a coordinated 4 man crew.

@jm0n3y1994 You cannot make any kills because you are used to making easy kills with the bus, give it some time I played with the pistol since the beta don't just shoot each others until one dies change to sword eat a banana while dodging. You will get better with pistol and sniper eventually.

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax Dude literally an hour ago i shot a guy with the blunderbuss he then shot me with a pistol i shot him again then he shot me again with the pistol i died he should have at least died the second time i shot him with the blunderbuss before he could get his second shot in with the pistol I’m furious and so distraught because SoT is my favorite game rightnow i loved the blunderbuss but I now might stop playing because I can’t get any kills with the EoR and pistol I stopped playing for a week to because I couldn’t use a second weapon now they fixed that I come back to the game to find my fav gun pooped on total B.S

So the question I would ask then, did he shoot you in the head dealing more damage then your shot to center mass?

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax Dude literally an hour ago i shot a guy with the blunderbuss he then shot me with a pistol i shot him again then he shot me again with the pistol i died he should have at least died the second time i shot him with the blunderbuss before he could get his second shot in with the pistol I’m furious and so distraught because SoT is my favorite game rightnow i loved the blunderbuss but I now might stop playing because I can’t get any kills with the EoR and pistol I stopped playing for a week to because I couldn’t use a second weapon now they fixed that I come back to the game to find my fav gun pooped on total B.S

So the question I would ask then, did he shoot you in the head dealing more damage then your shot to center mass?

That would be a hell of a thing, I don't believe headshot multipliers are in the game except for kick back effects.

@wildeyedjokr said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax Dude literally an hour ago i shot a guy with the blunderbuss he then shot me with a pistol i shot him again then he shot me again with the pistol i died he should have at least died the second time i shot him with the blunderbuss before he could get his second shot in with the pistol I’m furious and so distraught because SoT is my favorite game rightnow i loved the blunderbuss but I now might stop playing because I can’t get any kills with the EoR and pistol I stopped playing for a week to because I couldn’t use a second weapon now they fixed that I come back to the game to find my fav gun pooped on total B.S

So the question I would ask then, did he shoot you in the head dealing more damage then your shot to center mass?

That would be a hell of a thing, I don't believe headshot multipliers are in the game except for kick back effects.

hmm it seems to affect the skeletons, so I assume it would with players..... maybe some testing is needed.

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@wildeyedjokr said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax Dude literally an hour ago i shot a guy with the blunderbuss he then shot me with a pistol i shot him again then he shot me again with the pistol i died he should have at least died the second time i shot him with the blunderbuss before he could get his second shot in with the pistol I’m furious and so distraught because SoT is my favorite game rightnow i loved the blunderbuss but I now might stop playing because I can’t get any kills with the EoR and pistol I stopped playing for a week to because I couldn’t use a second weapon now they fixed that I come back to the game to find my fav gun pooped on total B.S

So the question I would ask then, did he shoot you in the head dealing more damage then your shot to center mass?

That would be a hell of a thing, I don't believe headshot multipliers are in the game except for kick back effects.

hmm it seems to affect the skeletons, so I assume it would with players..... maybe some testing is needed.

I believe it's only skeletons to be honest.

Shot plenty of people in the face point blank, usually they just go flying off of the deck into the water afterwards. But they live.

Edit: Probably not too great of a life, with a musket ball lodged in their jaw. But still, they lived.

@brutalpandax No you don't have to you can shoot the same place over and over again so they cant repair it while the other people from your party can shoot the deck and kill the crew while they through buckets of water for example. And yes you can board them I considered it abuse when a guy with a bus boards and wins 1vs4 with one shot kills.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 there is no difference if it is head or center mass

you sound pretty sure... do you have data to back that up?

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@captainflintkin I’m an absolute beast at PUBG and fortnite i can kill someone with every gun in either game. I can’t kill anyone with the eye of reach or pistol neither can my friends I’m a level 29,27,23 been playing since Mar. 20th i waited outside Gamestop before it was open to get the game now it’s not even fun to play because the blunderbuss is useless and everyone besides me server hops

The thing is you are comparing games that are completely different. Apples and oranges here.

SoT is nothing like a FPS, and it shouldn't be.

Additionally, you said you can't kill anyone with the other weapons, so allowing one weapon that is the end all be all means it's broken.

They need to find a balance between weapons, so they chose to make all damage equal and add other advantages. The bus is spread so less need for aim, the pistol is accurate and the eye has the scope. If the bus can do more damage then it's not balanced. If it's not balanced, whats the option of the other weapons?

Last time I checked SoT is a FPS and the most popular games are FPS rare should acknowledge that. The first time my best friend played SoT he wanted to stop playing because the guns weren’t great and this was near the official release date before the BB was nerfed but of course the game grew on him. He’s even upset about the BB being nerfed

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 there is no difference if it is head or center mass

you sound pretty sure... do you have data to back that up?

Honestly, I think it's a thing. Otherwise the PC/Xbox advantage would actually have TONS of traction.

@wildeyedjokr said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@wildeyedjokr said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax Dude literally an hour ago i shot a guy with the blunderbuss he then shot me with a pistol i shot him again then he shot me again with the pistol i died he should have at least died the second time i shot him with the blunderbuss before he could get his second shot in with the pistol I’m furious and so distraught because SoT is my favorite game rightnow i loved the blunderbuss but I now might stop playing because I can’t get any kills with the EoR and pistol I stopped playing for a week to because I couldn’t use a second weapon now they fixed that I come back to the game to find my fav gun pooped on total B.S

So the question I would ask then, did he shoot you in the head dealing more damage then your shot to center mass?

That would be a hell of a thing, I don't believe headshot multipliers are in the game except for kick back effects.

hmm it seems to affect the skeletons, so I assume it would with players..... maybe some testing is needed.

I believe it's only skeletons to be honest.

Shot plenty of people in the face point blank, usually they just go flying off of the deck into the water afterwards. But they live.

Edit: Probably not too great of a life, with a musket ball lodged in their jaw. But still, they lived.

yeah but I wonder what the health impact is. if it takes 60% of their health over 40 or 50 then it could make a difference.

But I digress that is a topic for another post.

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@captainflintkin I’m an absolute beast at PUBG and fortnite i can kill someone with every gun in either game. I can’t kill anyone with the eye of reach or pistol neither can my friends I’m a level 29,27,23 been playing since Mar. 20th i waited outside Gamestop before it was open to get the game now it’s not even fun to play because the blunderbuss is useless and everyone besides me server hops

The thing is you are comparing games that are completely different. Apples and oranges here.

SoT is nothing like a FPS, and it shouldn't be.

Additionally, you said you can't kill anyone with the other weapons, so allowing one weapon that is the end all be all means it's broken.

They need to find a balance between weapons, so they chose to make all damage equal and add other advantages. The bus is spread so less need for aim, the pistol is accurate and the eye has the scope. If the bus can do more damage then it's not balanced. If it's not balanced, whats the option of the other weapons?

Last time I checked SoT is a FPS and the most popular games are FPS rare should acknowledge that. The first time my best friend played SoT he wanted to stop playing because the guns weren’t great and this was near the official release date before the BB was nerfed but of course the game grew on him. He’s even upset about the BB being nerfed

I disagree, and according to the MS store, it's listed as Action & adventure.

Also Rare doesn't need to acknowledge anything... they made the game, they know what category that made it for.

@brutalpandax Again missing the point dude you can not win 1vs4 ever I am not talking about 4 guys that play a game for the first time most of us have years of experience playing FPS and every other genre. You could win only if 2-3 people are raise anchor or fixing and you get them by surprise. Also it was clearly not intended since they fix it. It cannot help you I have you an example of a situation I had it makes it worst if you can one shot kill, because when u respawn and get one shot killed instantly thats it. On the other hand if you respawn and he shoots you once but does not kill you u have a chance.

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@sillycolt302271 rates?

Ah yes. I made a mistake. I meant rare not rates. Sorry if you weren’t able to come to that conclusion

@wildeyedjokr said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 there is no difference if it is head or center mass

you sound pretty sure... do you have data to back that up?

Honestly, I think it's a thing. Otherwise the PC/Xbox advantage would actually have TONS of traction.

would aim assist not counter that? and plenty of xbox games use the headshot mechanic.

@brutalpandax no game works like that and nor should it. Also xbox players have aim assist I play on PC. If you want to kill all of them go aboard with gunpowder.

@wildeyedjokr said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@daguse0 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@jm0n3y1994 said in Blunderbuss nerf unbalanced the game.:

@brutalpandax Dude literally an hour ago i shot a guy with the blunderbuss he then shot me with a pistol i shot him again then he shot me again with the pistol i died he should have at least died the second time i shot him with the blunderbuss before he could get his second shot in with the pistol I’m furious and so distraught because SoT is my favorite game rightnow i loved the blunderbuss but I now might stop playing because I can’t get any kills with the EoR and pistol I stopped playing for a week to because I couldn’t use a second weapon now they fixed that I come back to the game to find my fav gun pooped on total B.S

So the question I would ask then, did he shoot you in the head dealing more damage then your shot to center mass?

That would be a hell of a thing, I don't believe headshot multipliers are in the game except for kick back effects.

All I know is i got into a shoot out with someone after sinking their sloop i shot him first with the BB he shot me with a pistol i then shot him again with the BB then he shot me again with the pistol and i died .. i had full health before the fight and I don’t ever remember the BB even being a one shot kill it’s always been two but you’re going to tell me a pistol is stronger than a shot gun ?