Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives

  • WujuWarrior1375
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    FOMO, fear of missing out. Limited items to force people to play within a certain time frame.

    Yes, it works, and now there is like 4 years worth of cosmetics locked away. No wonder there are too many players who have achieved everything you can achieve in the game. Locked items could have been commendations to do. A reason to play more.

    I have 100%-ed Arena, i have the PL weapons, and i understand why they are removing the gamemode even though i loved it. What hurts is that anyone who hasnt wont be able get it.

    Is to hard to make commendations? I dont think it would be bad to put the weapons behind 500 skeleton ships along with the cannons? 50 fort of fortunes mabye?

    I like the reskins. Nice alternative, but they arent matching. Why lock the old ones? No point in flexing something others cant even get. The weapons were admired because they requierd at least some effort compared to much other things, and it was grindy.

    Lets mention something i dont have, the Golden legendary items. I understand it is a nod to those who sticked to the game during its hard times after launch.

    I played the game during first year, but me and the crew didnt really pick up the pace before later. Now i have played it non stop for 2 years. Because of that we have completed most things you can do. I could use some cool items to work towards. It has been 4 years since launch. Why not add the golden legendary items behind some difficult commendations, new ones that hasnt been progressed yet. I dont care if its old content, thats a good reason to revisit it.

    Im not to mad if they add past exclusives to the emporium. Just not the impotant ones, we need challanges for that. Best example is soulflame crew set. Easy to get for a limited time. Harder to get afterwards by doing 50 FOTD clears.

    Rare can we please get more limited items back? At least some of those that have a significant presence.

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  • Captain Coel
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    @wujuwarrior1375 old cosmetics should remain locked. If they add cosmetics to commendations I want it to be new cosmetics

  • MostExpendable
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    The Arena items being locked away when they were never supposed to be time limited, is admittedly awful. Which is why I have no patience for people complaining that the reskins are too (awesome) close to the originals.

    Shame they couldn’t make a mode worth keeping alive.

    However, I’m happy to let some things die.

  • Dargis1401
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    Or they could just come up with new rewards behind new commendations, so that way the old time limited cosmetics can stay exclusive to those that earned them, and so that everybody can grind for these new cosmetics, instead of the only people that didn’t earn the time limited cosmetics back then. Otherwise those of us who do already have things like the golden pl items, otherwise us who already have these items will be left with a pointless commendation with rewards that we already earned years ago.

  • WujuWarrior1375
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    @captain-coel why though. I understand their value, like you can just release the ferryman stuff, thats a smack in the face to all who bought the controller. They should do a new controller though with the same reward to justify it.

    I made this post because i think everyone should have a chance to get everything, but istead of making it free or cheap, they should have difficult commendations to justify the items value.

    I can understand titles and values, but the first year pirate legend ship set is so "legendary" that the plain/regular one becomes redundant. Its fine as a reward since pl is easy now, but i want a chance to get the golden one.

    Imagine a new player dedicating life for the game only to learn that many solid rewards are locked. How is that frendly to new players? Interested in your opinion here.

  • Captain Coel
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    @wujuwarrior1375 why? simple we were there and we earned them. Also adding new stuff helps everyone vets and new players alike where adding the old hard to find stuff is only good for the new players.

    And no they shouldnt release a new controller with the ferryman set. They should release a new controller with a ferryman recolor.

  • WujuWarrior1375
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    @captain-coel is it some sort of privelige or prestige? If it is i feel like thats like saying that its a prestige to be older than someone? You have the day one eye patch? Thats a better soulution in that case.

  • WujuWarrior1375
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    @killzone1401 not saying they shouldnt add new, just give a a chance to get the old ones, so we can earn them too.

  • Captain Coel
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    @wujuwarrior1375 no, cosmetics in this game are part of your pirates story. This story is shared with others that were there during the events. That is why they are locked to time and imo should remain so.

    Again it comes down to adding new stuff is good for everyone.

  • El Spaniardchi
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    I missed out on a lot of rewards from year 1 and 2, yet I don't see the need of adding them back. We have recolors, no need to add the og items back when you can get a different colored version of it!

    And for odd items that never come back, or aren't really sets,(hungering one figurehead, bone crusher scar) that's ok that I can't have them. As much as I scream internally about not being able to fully complete my scar collection, it's not worth devaluing other people's mementos which show how long or what they've done in the game.

  • Ninja Naranja
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    Rare have come out and said that old (Y1 especially) limited timed cosmetics won’t make their way back into the game. As for the Ferryman set, Rare have also stated they won’t be rereleasing those as well.

  • Limend
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    @wujuwarrior1375 said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:
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    ...but istead of making it free or cheap, they should have difficult commendations to justify the items value...

    But the thing that makes TL items so special is the way you gained them. Defeating Warsmith or the Hungering one isn't the same as killing a megalodon or skeleton fleet today. Earning 50 doubloons isn't the same as it was back in the day, when the only supply of them was new commendations.

    It's not about how hard they were to get but what you did for them. Even if Hungering scar was behind Legendary Hunter of the Hungering one it wouldn't be the same, as people with it wouldn't have shared the same experience and task to get them, even though the later one put more effort for it.

    In other words the magic of TL items isn't how hard they were to get, but the experience or the meaning, like with Good Boy ship set, it wasn't something to grind for, but a gift for those who supported arena over the years.

    ...but the first year pirate legend ship set is so "legendary" that the plain/regular one becomes redundant...

    It was a reward for those who achieved pl during y1. Something that was way harder task like you said and is a reward for their dedication back then.
    It's like Over achiever sails, people did something hard back in the day and were rewarded for the task. If you were still able to get them even from the same task would it be the same as doing it in certain time frame?

    Imagine a new player dedicating life for the game only to learn that many solid rewards are locked. How is that frendly to new players? Interested in your opinion here.

    It is what it is. I've missed plenty of time limited items too, some which I'd do anything to get (cough y1 pl blunder buss) but am at peace with the idea that I won't ever get them.
    If they can't enjoy the game knowing that they won't be able to get certain eye of reach, I'd say the problem isn't on the game.

  • WujuWarrior1375
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    @el-spaniardchi devaluing menentos eh... jeez. In any case its unfortunate they took this approach.

    Ive been able to see beyond it for some times so i guess if they add a bunch of stuff and an update with lots of thrill i can look past it again, but we need more top tier items, more effort required items.

  • El Spaniardchi
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    @wujuwarrior1375 said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @el-spaniardchi devaluing menentos eh... jeez. In any case its unfortunate they took this approach.

    Sure, but how else are you gonna tell someone is a year one, two, three, e.t.c. player? Hence why time-limited cosmetics exist. As long as the game has a lot of non time-limited cosmetics, it's fine to have some exclusives.

    Ive been able to see beyond it for some times so i guess if they add a bunch of stuff and an update with lots of thrill i can look past it again, but we need more top tier items, more effort required items.

    Definetly! More items is always a plus in my eyes.

  • WujuWarrior1375
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    @limend gotcha, it hurts see it this way. I am a person that loves completing, combining and styling. Mabye i have become a bit too engaged lol. I will probabily enjoy the game more if i stop focusing on cosmetics.

  • Captain Coel
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    @wujuwarrior1375 said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @el-spaniardchi devaluing menentos eh... jeez. In any case its unfortunate they took this approach.

    Its more than just devaluing them. When I see certain cosmetics out on the seas I know what they went through to get them. It gives pirates a camaraderie in this shared experience.

    Ive been able to see beyond it for some times so i guess if they add a bunch of stuff and an update with lots of thrill i can look past it again, but we need more top tier items, more effort required items.

    We absolutely need more top tier items, but we also need more and new commendations to lock them behind. Comms that are grindy. Where is my sink 1k or 5k or 10k skelly ships? Where are my gold hoarder comms for cumulative collected wealth? My Oos for smashing 100 Thousand skeletons.

    I was top tier cosmetics linked to commendations like those. The ones we have in game already need some. Sailing 1k miles for each company or completing 250 quests for each are certainly grindy.

  • MadFrito99
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    @wujuwarrior1375 first its 25 FOTD completions…but either way utterly ridiculous…common theme i have seen in this game…havong to do an absurb amount of things to unlock items. i.e. captain of the damn sails, the damned crew set; vault sails, etc i also have to disagree with some comments…just because you were there when something was released doesnt mean the item was hard to get…rare has made alot of missteps like the shrouded ghost…1 hiding a commedation behind it 2. hiding a second commendation which entails killing 5. most never even see 1. so for completionist most likely wont be able to 100% the game. another misstep was the ferryman set hidden behind a controller that was scalped to oblivion. their response: o well. i mean seriously? alot of true hardcore fans missed out and they could careless…and to add insult to injury they literally trolled us with the pirates life update by showing loading screens with jack sparrow holding the ferrymans sword. ooo a big one was the legendary set…locked behind 240 wins in arena. utterly ridiculous

  • El Spaniardchi
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    @madfrito99 said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @wujuwarrior1375 first its 25 FOTD completions…but either way utterly ridiculous…common theme i have seen in this game…havong to do an absurb amount of things to unlock items. i.e. captain of the damn sails, the damned crew set; vault sails, etc i also have to disagree with some comments…just because you were there when something was released doesnt mean the item was hard to get…rare has made alot of missteps like the shrouded ghost…1 hiding a commedation behind it 2. hiding a second commendation which entails killing 5. most never even see 1. so for completionist most likely wont be able to 100% the game. another misstep was the ferryman set hidden behind a controller that was scalped to oblivion. their response: o well. i mean seriously? alot of true hardcore fans missed out and they could careless…and to add insult to injury they literally trolled us with the pirates life update by showing loading screens with jack sparrow holding the ferrymans sword. ooo a big one was the legendary set…locked behind 240 wins in arena. utterly ridiculous

    You are kinda missing the point of this thread. Talking about your opinion on certain non time-limited commendations/items and their difficulty is a different story.

    As far as the Ferryman set goes, it's not too big of a deal, as most of the pieces are missing from the controller pack set. Definetly sucks that me, you, and other people can't really get it, but it's just a cosmetic at the end of the day.

    Jack Sparrow having the sword made sense from a lore standpoint (the Ferryman gives him the sword so he can help fight, hence why he has it).

    Shrouded Ghost commedation is luck based, anyone who gets upset about not being able to complete that commendation needs to grow up and move one (and this is coming from a guy who's pretty obsessed with getting everything the game has to offer).

    Og Legendary set being locked under 240 wins is something i could care less about. I like the new set far more than the og one, but that's more my opinion than anything else

  • GrumpyW01f
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    @wujuwarrior1375
    https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/145552/limited-time-cosmetics

  • RikJaxx
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    I've never been a fan of time-locked exclusives either. I'm 100% a fan of locking them behind commendations and that everyone deserves an opportunity to EARN the cosmetics they want. This does not include platform exclusives as that makes perfect sense to me.....no X-Box cosmetics for PC users, etc.

    But, alas....

    Rare as determined that Time-Locked and Exclusivity is their policy.

    So....

    If you loosen up on your compulsive desires, there are plenty of cosmetics you CAN earn to flesh out your look. Sometimes a re-color of an existing locked set will work. Sometimes you just need to compromise a little on your look. It's frustrating for sure, but life isn't always about equal opportunity to all (unfortunately).

    I've created some cosmetic looks that look great BECAUSE I was locked out of some things that I wanted. Frustrated in the beginning, sure, but in the end it worked out with looks that I am quite happy with.

    But I do wish there were much more to choose from. The primary reason I play this game (and any game that allows customization) is to design the ships and characters.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @captain-coel said:

    where adding the old hard to find stuff is only good for the new players.

    Only? No. It's also good for those who were on the Sea, and active, but still missed it for whatever reason, as well as those who weren't.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @captain-coel said:

    no, cosmetics in this game are part of ypur pirates story. This story is shared with others that were there during the events. That is why they are locked to time and imo should remain so.

    And what of newer pirate's stories? Should they be ridiculed because they're only able to get some knock-off recolor? 🤦‍♂️

  • Galactic Geek
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    @el-spaniardchi said:

    We have recolors, no need to add the og items back when you can get a different colored version of it!

    Recolors aren't the same - they're cheaper, less-popular non-OG knock-offs.

    When it comes to status, the OG cosmetics is where it's at. Everything else is just... ♻️🗑

  • Galactic Geek
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    @wujuwarrior1375 said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @limend gotcha, it hurts see it this way. I am a person that loves completing, combining and styling. Mabye i have become a bit too engaged lol. I will probabily enjoy the game more if i stop focusing on cosmetics.

    That depends. Being limited on cosmetic choices limits your potential roles.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @rikjaxx said:

    but life isn't always about equal opportunity to all (unfortunately).

    Be careful here. Equality doesn't equal equity. In any case, you mentioned opportunity - the opportunity was there; the only question was whether you were available during that opportunity, and if not, if you should have another opportunity (as in, not the same as the original opportunity) to earn the same item. While I personally disagree with it, the majority opinion here seems to be a resounding no.

    Here! Have a cheap knock-off recolor that doesn't match with anything and that you can wear so that the OG pirates that have too much time on their hooks can laugh at you to make themselves feel better about their poor, pitiful, miserable lives while lost upon the Sea.

    Those phantoms? They're not stuck in here with you. You're stuck in there with them! 😒

    Welcome to the Locker!

  • El Spaniardchi
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    @galactic-geek said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @el-spaniardchi said:
    We have recolors, no need to add the og items back when you can get a different colored version of it!

    Recolors aren't the same - they're cheaper, less-popular non-OG knock-offs.

    When it comes to status, the OG cosmetics is where it's at. Everything else is just... ♻️🗑

    Depends, the new athena weapons reskin is far better imo. While Glorious Sea Dog gear looks a lot better than Triumphant Sea Dog stuff. It can go both ways.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @el-spaniardchi said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @galactic-geek said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @el-spaniardchi said:
    We have recolors, no need to add the og items back when you can get a different colored version of it!

    Recolors aren't the same - they're cheaper, less-popular non-OG knock-offs.

    When it comes to status, the OG cosmetics is where it's at. Everything else is just... ♻️🗑

    Depends, the new athena weapons reskin is far better imo. While Glorious Sea Dog gear looks a lot better than Triumphant Sea Dog stuff. It can go both ways.

    Looks only go so far. As does your opinion (and I mean that as much as can be politely said). The fact is that the OG items will still carry more weight in terms of popularity, and well, renown. Funnily enough, your own example might be the exception - Glory doesn't go to the former, but rather the latter Triumphs in this case due to how much harder it is to get.

    As for the recolored PL weapons, they are good-looking, IMO, but at a glance don't look like they will match with the other parts of the OG PL set - if it at least did that I wouldn't mind as much. Either that, or release a whole new PL set to match the new recolors, in which case, a significant portion of newer and upcoming pirates will still be left out in the cold (shoulder that Rare is giving them).

  • Nitroxien
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    Issue with time limited cosmetics is either they make a lot of them or remove them entirely.

    If Rare just keeps a few old time limited cosmetics and stops making new ones it would feel bad for a lot of players who will have no way in the past or future to show their pirates voyage while others get the chance to. To remove time limited would mean to bring back everything no FOMO at all past and future (which I am not opposed to but ain't gonna happen unfortuantely)

  • Nitroxien
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    As someone with TSD/LSD I would not be opposed to the OG PL weapons being brough back and giving current LSDs a black/grey or white/silver recoloring of the PL weapons. The OG ones match perfectly with the PL set and the new ones just don't fit as well. In addition these weapons have turned iconic with the sword being in the Athena's table.

    In short give TSD/LSD a white/silver or black/grey recolor something like obi or insider than rerelease the OG ones.

  • Captain Coel
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    @galactic-geek said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @captain-coel said:

    where adding the old hard to find stuff is only good for the new players.

    Only? No. It's also good for those who were on the Sea, and active, but still missed it for whatever reason, as well as those who weren't.

    @galactic-geek said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @captain-coel said:

    no, cosmetics in this game are part of ypur pirates story. This story is shared with others that were there during the events. That is why they are locked to time and imo should remain so.

    And what of newer pirate's stories? Should they be ridiculed because they're only able to get some knock-off recolor? 🤦‍♂️

    If they missed its not part of their story, that just the way it is. Its not on Rare to let them get the cosmetics.

    For new pirates they have other time limited cosmetics to obtain and use. If they want to get something similar to old cosmetics, then yes they only get recolors. The cosmetics from the recent adventure and the upcoming adventures will be great additions to peoples' stories.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @captain-coel said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @galactic-geek said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @captain-coel said:

    where adding the old hard to find stuff is only good for the new players.

    Only? No. It's also good for those who were on the Sea, and active, but still missed it for whatever reason, as well as those who weren't.

    @galactic-geek said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @captain-coel said:

    no, cosmetics in this game are part of ypur pirates story. This story is shared with others that were there during the events. That is why they are locked to time and imo should remain so.

    And what of newer pirate's stories? Should they be ridiculed because they're only able to get some knock-off recolor? 🤦‍♂️

    If they missed its not part of their story, that just the way it is.

    Well, none of us were alive during pirate times - does that mean we shouldn't set sail on this Sea? No, it doesn't.

    Its not on Rare to let them get the cosmetics.

    Why not? It's simply a choice - and 1 that they could make for the better.

    For new pirates they have other time limited cosmetics to obtain and use.

    Yes, but in the case of recolors, usually mediocre ones. And if it's not a recolor, then it doesn't hold as much weight because it's something entirely different.

    If they want to get something similar to old cosmetics, then yes they only get recolors.

    Why not something entirely new instead? Recolors are lazy and barely add variety. At least something entirely different would add true variety. It's like these new forts we're seeing - yay, more forts! 🙄

    The cosmetics from the recent adventure and the upcoming adventures will be great additions to peoples' stories.

    Sure, at least until others with the OG cosmetics rub their glory and triumph into their envious faces (for example, "yay, I killed a meg!" vs. "oh yeah, well I killed the OG Hungering One").

  • Captain Coel
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    @galactic-geek they dont seem to use recolors as time limited rewards, they are just added behind comms and gold which is fine. Players should celebrate "Their" story. The things they did, which is what the cosmetics represent. Sure I killed the Hungering one, I killed mermaid statues for nothing more than doubloons, stayed up till 4 am a few times to do the darned fleets because the timing on the event sucked. I spent ages going between islands while my crew dug up chests to do reapers runs. When I see people with cosmetics from those events I know. Its the same with the gold hoarder figurehead we got for fishing up too many splashtails. Or the Ruby Eyepatch. There are cosmetics that tell a story about what you and your pirate have been through. They are the trophies along the way, people who weren't there didn't participate or beat the event and thus don't deserve the rewards for doing so.

    It will be no different with the GSD/TSD/LSD cosmetics in 6 days when the arena is done. I'm glad both of my pirates have their TSD and that my main has his LSD. Saved me grinding this last bit out.

    Im glad they are going to be events that are short lived and offer new time limited cosmetics. Im excited to see how they add to people's story.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @captain-coel What's so bad about having cosmetics tell 2 stories instead of 1?

  • GrumpyW01f
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    @galactic-geek said in Lost Pirate Legend items, exclusives:

    @captain-coel What's so bad about having cosmetics tell 2 stories instead of 1?

    One of the best moments when meeting someone new is seeing what you have in common at a glance. The silhouette of the Bone Crusher hat is quite iconic! And, when you see that hat, you think of the good times that you had trying to perfectly cannon up to that darned spot on Plunder Outpost. It's been almost 4 years since those skeleton thrones, and yet you can still connect with someone else through a shared player experience.
    If that hat and the jacket/dress were to be given out to anyone that wanted it, not only would it disrespect the time you put in to earn them back in the day, but it also means that you can no longer identify those that participated in skeleton thrones. What is happening is the connection between the memory and the item is severed for some and devalued for others. Now you can't connect through a shared experience.

    Players who want access to time-limited items are just greedy to get them. Whether or not they notice, they are also trying to erase the significance of playing Sea of Thieves in the past and making memories.

  • Galactic Geek
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    @grumpyw01f And yet you don't feel disrespected when other pirates essentially are wearing the same outfit with the exact same silhouette (but with a different color)?

    You guys have some mixed up priorities...

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