So whats with the hit detection?

@klutchxking518 this better be sarcasm, cause if it’s not this is just laughable

@callmebackdraft

I try to keep it simple for those that don't exactly know what cloud services is. To some people it sounds very complicated while to other it doesn't.

Also there are differences between dedicated and cloud services. Suggesting that any game with dedicated servers are "cloud" based means that you are the one who doesn't know what they are talking about.

Dedicated vs Cloud for gaming online are fundamentally different. Maybe you should learn more about what you are doing before you say anything more??

There are other games besides Halo 3 that are on xbox azure servers having issues.

How about you learn the differences between dedicated vs cloud??

@jadescissors32 said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@xultanis-dragon You dont know what you talking about. Azure is best cloud out there.
There are no "Azure servers" its a cloud where you build own servers, or use Azure services.
Hitreg is not Azure problem its a problem with implementing Unreal Engine. The UE forum is filled with people complaining about hit registration issues.

Seriously?? When identifying the servers what do you think people call them?? Azure servers. Like a car, most of us all have cars, but usually everyone uses identifiers like "Honda or Mustang".

The azure servers suck for gaming. Cloud services suck for gaming.

Also not everything uses the UE engine you realize this right??

Guys seriously both of you do a little more research PLEASE. For the love of all that is holy in this land understand the differences between cloud services and dedicated. ITS NOT THE SAME. Then learn WHY gaming SUCKS on the azure servers or really on any cloud based services.

.......also I hope I don't get banned for this but dear god I lost it laughing lol

@xultanis-dragon People used to put a "Ferrari" kit on Pontiac Fiero, making it look like Ferrari.
People who did not know they referred to them as Ferrai,
People who knew referred to them as Pontiac Fiero with a kit.

@jadescissors32 said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@xultanis-dragon People used to put a "Ferrari" kit on Pontiac Fiero, making it look like Ferrari.
People who did not know they referred to them as Ferrai,
People who knew referred to them as Pontiac Fiero with a kit.

You trying to make my point for me?? They are both cars, why did you just call them cars or did you need to specify to identify them? They are the same thing right? Engine, parts, go vroom vroom. Cars

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

on the contrary i think i know a little more about this than you do bud

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@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

on the contrary i think i know a little more about this than you do bud

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Its funny because its true ;)

Then stop hiding your Xbox achievements so we can compare :^)

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

on the contrary i think i know a little more about this than you do bud

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Its funny because its true ;)

Then stop hiding your Xbox achievements so we can compare :^)

my achievements should be visible don't know why you cant see them

but yes you've completed more achievements than i have are you suddenly some sort of intellectual superior now? is this your logic? please tell me it is it makes it more laughable

beware folks comrade molly is an achievement hunter and comrade molly actually cares about achievements he now knows more than you do like what? is this how you imagined things going?

like wow you managed to sell 500 chickens you are now an intellectual superior

gullible but no this is not how this is going to work and its not how it works either achievements means squat to me

but yes you may spend 100% of your time grinding achievements while i spend 95% of my time killing pirates and that 5% on voyages your achievements doesn't mean anything

Actually selling chickens is one of the few achievements I don't have. The ones I'd use to judge which of us knows more about the game mechanics, specifically how common hitreg is, are the achievements relating to how much PVP you've done. You know, stuff like Arena achievements, Reaper achievements, or anything combat related.

See, I'm the one between the two of us who spends all of her time killing pirates. I have max level Reaper, Legendary Sea Dog, and Triumphant Sea Dog on 2 different pirates (both Reapers being steals only, with my alt account having PL as a whole leveled 100% through steals). I have also have all of the weapon kill commendations in arena (200 with each weapon and 100 more with the glorious weapon of that type) on six more alt accounts. That's over 2000 kills with each weapon, ONLY counting the first 300 of each (and I've continued to play hundreds of more games of Arena on both my main account, as well as 3 of those alts that I still regularly play on)

The reason I mentioned your achievements is because you claimed to know more about combat in this game than me, and I recall that last time I brought up your achievements and posted that you didn't even have the achievement for PLAYING (not even winning) 100 arena games, that was when you made your achievements private.

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

on the contrary i think i know a little more about this than you do bud

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Its funny because its true ;)

Then stop hiding your Xbox achievements so we can compare :^)

my achievements should be visible don't know why you cant see them

but yes you've completed more achievements than i have are you suddenly some sort of intellectual superior now? is this your logic? please tell me it is it makes it more laughable

beware folks comrade molly is an achievement hunter and comrade molly actually cares about achievements he now knows more than you do like what? is this how you imagined things going?

like wow you managed to sell 500 chickens you are now an intellectual superior

gullible but no this is not how this is going to work and its not how it works either achievements means squat to me

but yes you may spend 100% of your time grinding achievements while i spend 95% of my time killing pirates and that 5% on voyages your achievements doesn't mean anything

Actually selling chickens is one of the few achievements I don't have. The ones I'd use to judge which of us knows more about the game mechanics, specifically how common hitreg is, are the achievements relating to how much PVP you've done. You know, stuff like Arena achievements, Reaper achievements, or anything combat related.

See, I'm the one between the two of us who spends all of her time killing pirates. I have max level Reaper, Legendary Sea Dog, and Triumphant Sea Dog on 2 different pirates (both Reapers being steals only, with my alt account having PL as a whole leveled 100% through steals). I have also have all of the weapon kill commendations in arena (200 with each weapon and 100 more with the glorious weapon of that type) on six more alt accounts. That's over 2000 kills with each weapon, ONLY counting the first 300 of each (and I've continued to play hundreds of more games of Arena on both my main account, as well as 3 of those alts that I still regularly play on)

The reason I mentioned your achievements is because you claimed to know more about combat in this game than me, and I recall that last time I brought up your achievements and posted that you didn't even have the achievement for PLAYING (not even winning) 100 arena games, that was when you made your achievements private.

I am sorry but my respect to your achievements is now gone, what kinda pirate does not farm chickens?
Seriously, you are not a real Pirate Legend until you have farmed chickens. ;)
/s

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@comrade-molly said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@jollyolsteamed said in So whats with the hit detection?:

on the contrary i think i know a little more about this than you do bud

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Its funny because its true ;)

Then stop hiding your Xbox achievements so we can compare :^)

my achievements should be visible don't know why you cant see them

but yes you've completed more achievements than i have are you suddenly some sort of intellectual superior now? is this your logic? please tell me it is it makes it more laughable

beware folks comrade molly is an achievement hunter and comrade molly actually cares about achievements he now knows more than you do like what? is this how you imagined things going?

like wow you managed to sell 500 chickens you are now an intellectual superior

gullible but no this is not how this is going to work and its not how it works either achievements means squat to me

but yes you may spend 100% of your time grinding achievements while i spend 95% of my time killing pirates and that 5% on voyages your achievements doesn't mean anything

Actually selling chickens is one of the few achievements I don't have. The ones I'd use to judge which of us knows more about the game mechanics, specifically how common hitreg is, are the achievements relating to how much PVP you've done. You know, stuff like Arena achievements, Reaper achievements, or anything combat related.

no still isn't a viable comparison method why?

because i dont have to play arena in order to do pvp and as far as i know there are no achievements and or counters telling you how many people i've killed and or sunk so whatever amount of pvp i've done in adventure you wouldn't even know about

and if you think you know more because you play a pvp specified mode that imo actually sucks your actually out of it

See, I'm the one between the two of us who spends all of her time killing pirates. I have max level Reaper, Legendary Sea Dog, and Triumphant Sea Dog on 2 different pirates (both Reapers being steals only, with my alt account having PL as a whole leveled 100% through steals). I have also have all of the weapon kill commendations in arena (200 with each weapon and 100 more with the glorious weapon of that type) on six more alt accounts. That's over 2000 kills with each weapon, ONLY counting the first 300 of each (and I've continued to play hundreds of more games of Arena on both my main account, as well as 3 of those alts that I still regularly play on)

once again arena or adventure doesn't matter pvp is always available in both i never continued playing arena because i simply did not like the mode and nor do i even care about achievements so that wasn't even an incentiviser for me to play the mode

but this is simply you just wanting to show off so cheers you managed to hunt for achievements and think its a viable way to compare the achievement lists of an achievement hunter to one who doesn't go out of his way to unlock them smh..

The reason I mentioned your achievements is because you claimed to know more about combat in this game than me, and I recall that last time I brought up your achievements and posted that you didn't even have the achievement for PLAYING (not even winning) 100 arena games, that was when you made your achievements private.

once again whatever mode you play doesn't matter it really doesn't

i dont go out of my way to unlock achievements i just sail around and sink people thats literally all i do

and as far as i know once again there are no counters and or achievements for sinking x amount of ships or killing x amount of people in adventure

but please continue your higness let me bask in your superior intellect

hitreg is better now than what it was 3 years ago thats fact and thats what im trying to point out not that you would know anything about that because you weren't even here then

furthemore i don't want you to believe im some sort of delusional junk head whos denying the existance or issue with hitreg it is an issue for sure but it ain't as bad as it was thats the point and by all means it needs to be fixed for sure

im not trying to say that "no they shouldn't fix it" because they should fix it but i believe that its coming slowly like they said it would and you don't know how long it takes and neither do i

so we cannot tell them how fast it should be fixed and arguing and whining about it wont fix it any faster

but we can go on like this forever with you demanding achievement comparisons and me telling you it isn't a proper way to compare knowledge

we can bicker like children back and forth hitreg wont be fixed any faster because of it

See the thing here is that I can prove that I know what I'm talking about when I say that hitreg has gotten worse, because I've given you my credentials, credentials that I can back up with evidence (commendations and achievements). I also used to stream my gameplay, and still have a few videos up and available to be viewed, showing that I am more than qualified to comment on bugs in the combat in this game.

I'm certainly not saying I'm the best player around or anything, I know plenty better than me, but I do play at the level where hitreg is much more apparent, and much more impactful, and I echo the statements of any of my peers in that group that hitreg has gotten worse, especially in the last year, when they started fiddling with combat.

The vast majority of players in Adventure are extremely bad, and nobody can just take your word for it that you have seen enough combat to have a valid opinion on hitreg, especially when you make a claim completely contrary to the broad consensus among verifiable PVP veterans.

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@pithyrumble said in So whats with the hit detection?:

I don't have a problem with it.

And I do. I don't go out of my way to PvP in the game but I do enjoy PvP in this game. However, I also enjoy a balanced and fair environment. Relying on ANY RNG elements to win a fight is borderline stupid and annoying. Hitreg is an RNG element in this case because you have no idea if your shots are actually hitting or not due to how often hitreg becomes a problem in fights.

It's a major problem and will be unless Rare does either two things:

1. Actually fix it.

2. Turn the game into a PvE title because they cannot fix it (not what I want).

I'm probably gonna uninstall the game at this rate until this is fixed.

I wish shots while jumping were reduced 95% in accuracy.

it's had more noticeable issues the last 6 months or so

not just at high level pvp but also random fairly skilled competitive adventure pvp as well

it's not rare to see a back and forth during a battle where hit reg issues are present when the crews are close in skill and have experience

how much it matters entirely depends on how people play but it's definitely not as accurate in my style of play as it was when I started a bit over a year ago so it's definitely going to be worse for those that do it as their main style and do it at high skill levels

@callmebackdraft said in So whats with the hit detection?:

@xultanis-dragon your a funny guy, calling people out to do research on something while you are using misnomers...

cloud computing
noun
the practice of using a network of remote servers hosted on the internet to store, manage, and process data, rather than a local server or a personal computer..

And thus any server not in your or anyones personal home is what ? Yes... “cloud” based.

Maybe my wording of “any dedicated server” should be deepened a little bit to, “any dedicated server hosting not done locally”

The difference between cloud based and dedicated servers is virtual versus physical.

Just because the server is in a different location doesn't make it cloud based. Physical network vs virtual network.

One is faster than the other but one is easier to implement and to scale.

A better example would be the difference of running a program lets say Microsoft word on your computer and then using a virtual desktop program to run Microsoft word on linux.

In one instance you have physical hardware running your windows and then using resources to run a program virtually.

If you work in cloud based then you should know this.

Cloud based is more redundant and ease of access. For the most part Cloud based works better than dedicated servers depending on what you want use it for but dedicated servers are FASTER and BETTER for gaming.

And you saying:

There are other games besides Halo 3 that are on xbox azure servers having issues..

Thats called confirmation bias.

No its called a known issue with most games now. Sea of Thieves isn't the only game that currently has its dev team focusing on hit registration problems.

Almost all games are moving to cloud based gaming. Using Google, Amazon, or Microsoft.

All of them are having issues. There is a problem with virtual usage is because there is a lag in response time. Its a given. You are trying to use something from somewhere else that is created from somewhere else.

Even though @jollyolsteamed says that hit registration is better than what it was in the beginning, I call shenanigans. I remember when the game first came out and I used to NEVER get hit reg issues. Maybe if I was playing on a server with around 150 ping or so it would happen sometimes depending on how far away the character us, but on my home turf?? Never.

Then Rare moved to servers to Azure and it had been garbage ever since.

That was also when the moved where most of the processing took place, client vs server side.

Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values. ... The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs..

Confirmation bias?? Broski the only thing you have said in your defense is that you use Azure for situations UNRELATED to gaming. I can go look up online with tons of other people complaining about the services and how bad Azure servers are. Does that mean you have confirmation bias??

I understand how cloud works but judging from your earlier comment it might seem that either A you don't fully understand the difference between virtual to physical when it comes to computing or B you some reason just simply mispoke or mis

It is just as simple for me to say there are alot of games running azure servers that dont have said issues and/or there are alot of games running on whatever hardware that have the same issues.

Name some FPS games that are on azure that don't have issues pretty please then. I think there are even games that aren't even FPS that are having issues as well. But please if you can name a few.

Cases can be made for all points both for and against azure or whatever service/platform/hardware you want and proof can be found for any single one of those

Again, this isn't about what azure or even what cloud is good at, its what cloud is BAD at. Cloud is bad for online gaming, especially in high reaction games.

You do realise that azure as a cloud service platform delivers a multitude of options, ranging from app services to dedicated hardware and everything in between right ?

Hey, you know my rice cooker is amazing at making Rice that must also mean that it is amazing at cooking a Ribeye. I mean why not. Right?

We aren't talking about the OTHER types of services it has.

Are you a spokesperson for azure or something?? Why would I care about what options they give when the issue is how well it runs for hosting game servers??

I work with this stuff on a daily basis and use/work with services ranging from Azure and AWS to simple server hosting and local server hosting.

Dude thats great you work with the stuff. When working with it are you using it for hosting millions of servers for online gaming?? You aren't the only one in a technical field man.

Cloud is VIRTUAL. When you create a server, you are telling the cloud to VIRTUALLY create a PC and run the program you want it to run. It is not a physical server in a number of BILLIONS of servers in a warehouse somewhere.

You are basically taking computing power from a network/multiple networks and telling it to PRETEND to have "this type of CPU" and "this amount of ram" and "this type of video card"

Cloud based services ARE GARBAGE for gaming because it has to virtually create and process that WHILE running the program.

I've been trying to find a single hit registration video for sea of thieves BEFORE their migration to azure servers and I can't really find one.

The only time I remember have hit reg problems before they migrated was when players were super far away, like on islands, or trying to shoot each other while under water. Which could have just been because water is slows down the projectile.

I'm sorry but I just don't see it. Servers got migrated and you see NOTHING but hit reg problems. Thats not confirmation bias or whatever. There was a change and then something else happened after that change.

If you are in the technical field then you know the question "Did you change anything recently or install anything?"

Sorry broski, you can try as you might but cloud based is garbage for gaming and Azure is even worse.

@ Galactic-Geek

Yeah lag comparison was bad but not as bad as NOT being able to hit your shots because the screen says yes but the game says no lol.

But yeah, pros and cons.

Azure servers are still garbage even if you disagree. They cloud in general is bad for hosting gaming servers that require fast response times.

Over simplification?? BAH HUMBUG!!! You call them automobiles, I call them VEHICLES!!!!! BOOOOM SHAKALAKA. This is where I do a spin while jumping from half court and dunking on you while setting the net on fire.