Plunder pass

@Deckhands

@DrgnovPavlov bro nda

Yeh i know just checked u tube soz

Some battle passes help the game grow and others kill the game. Usually the games that dont make u pay for the pass and just reward u for playing are good

So im willing to except tha battle pass if rares willing to except deleting it if it doesnt work out

@expsnailer said in Plunder pass:

@doomscorp starting to sound like me in regards to Arena lol!

Yet the stated 3% of the game population playing that mode by Joe Neate totally destroys your notion that it "divides the community", your main reason for wanting it removed.

I dont see this being bad or good.
Destiny, CoD, Fortnite, all have Passes of some kind and tend to do very well...BUT you are still able to play without buying it.

So pay to win now?

@dlchief58 said in Plunder pass:

@expsnailer said in Plunder pass:

@doomscorp starting to sound like me in regards to Arena lol!

Yet the stated 3% of the game population playing that mode by Joe Neate totally destroys your notion that it "divides the community", your main reason for wanting it removed.

It's 3% of playtime not population; actually it's even less than 3%.

I don't know if they include the time spend in the tavern though - could double that number 😉.

@musicmee said in Plunder pass:

@pithyrumble Ahoy matey!

There is no pay to win here!

Unlike most Seasons in other games, the main seasonal rewards are all free and unlocked through play, but there’s an optional ‘premium’ tier unlocked with the Plunderpass that allows you to play and unlock existing items from Emporium for a discount, alongside a few exclusives

For those of you who might still be confused, the Plunder Pass is going to function identically to the Hunt Pass from the monster hunting game "Dauntless."

There's going to be a free tier to the season pass, that's automatically unlocked for everyone, and there's going to be a premium, purchasable tier that offers extra rewards.

I don't agree with the addition of a season pass to Sea of Thieves, either; personally I feel they've been done to death and are saturating the market, and additionally Sea of Thieves already has a bad rep for the notorious grind to Pirate Legend (which no longer exists, but nevertheless); we don't need more carrots that require a lot of grinding to achieve.

My only real gripe is that the majority of games that have a season pass like this are free-to-play games. That's how they justify its existence. I know SOT is on Game Pass, and that's good value, but it's still not F2P. Unless they make the game F2P, this is going to look to a lot of people like double dipping, regardless if there's a free tier to it or not.

@wolfmanbush
Perhaps. But my concern is the "perks" will only really be bait to get players to spend even more money in the Emporium, rather than rewards in and of themselves

I have seen more backlash than positive feedback on the PlunderPass.
And they clearly didnt listen to their insider either and still they dare to say at the end of the video: "it's you players who made SoT of what it is today"......
And when they come up with a bad idea....yea boom

i think rare's income is low now they haven't made any new games that i am aware of

people who want sea of thieves has probrably already bought sea of thieves

now there might be days where they don't earn a penny or there might be days where they earn just a little bit

what i am 100% certain of is that this plunderpass was not added out of greed

@burnbacon Indeed, but these all have in common that they are free to play titles. We got a €40 triple A rated game that already has the pirate emporium as a way of doing ingame purchases. Now, at first i was ok with the emporium. However, as updates have gone on, new cosmetics are almost exclusively comming to emporium, which is already starting to look pretty greedy. Then they also add a season structure with battle pass, which i find odd seen as this is something more befitting to free to play games than a freaking €4o AAA game. Now im unsure how they will shape this battle pass but all i know is i am entirely against it. The argument most people used for the emporium was that it was a way for rare to get extra income and that it was entirely optional. However, as things progressed it has gone to the main focus, while Joe even announced that the community is still growing. So if they just left it as was and also introduced some cosmetics for people who just paid for the game rather than paying for stuff in a paid game i would be fine, but this is just getting worse. EA (a prime example of a greedy games publisher) did simmilar things and look how they are currently regarded. Honestly, i think this just needs to stop and rare should first balance the paid - unpaid balance of cosmetics before even thinking of asking more money.

@jollyolsteamed not true. As Joe said in the last SoT news, the community of players is still growing bigger every year. They got over a million NEW players in the first month of steam release. And there are still a lot of new players every single day, so, just check those things before you give your oppinion please. Not meant to bash you btw, i just get a bit annoyed of people trying to back such arguments with ungrounded claims.

@markipolow said in Plunder pass:

@jollyolsteamed not true. As Joe said in the last SoT news, the community of players is still growing bigger every year. They got over a million NEW players in the first month of steam release. And there are still a lot of new players every single day, so, just check those things before you give your oppinion please. Not meant to bash you btw, i just get a bit annoyed of people trying to back such arguments with ungrounded claims.

how long ago was it released to steam?

time passes numbers change

something joe said months ago is already a shaky arguement

my arguement is far from ungrounded

content the developers make costs alot of money

take payday 2 a very popular heist game that kicked off reaally well it was one of the most played steam games when it came out but time passes the company went bankrupt

things changes as time passes is my point

same with player numbers

and i feel like you ignore the meaning of my comment by calling it ungrounded because it is not

content developers make will earn money to support either the game or repay funding given by publishers aswell as paying for the costs of making content and paying the developers

even if joe said they recieved X amount of players and earned Y amount of money

doesn't mean you know where majority of where that money goes to

not bashing you either now but claiming i have ungrounded claims like that is a very steep decision do refrain from telling people that unless you are 100% sure what someone says is boogus

in short even if they earned alot of money initially you forget this game is a product meant for our enjoyment and meant for their paychecks

a company who does not look for ways to improve their economy is a company doomed to die out thats just fact

this plunder pass is simply a way to increase earnings to pay salaries and keep content coming and pay microsoft their slice aswell as repaying funding given by microsoft

publishers will do well to pull the plug on a game that isn't doing well even if the game is popular and has alot of players it won't matter if nobody is buying anything anymore

online games cost money to maintain and if the game ends up being a money sink hole with no returns it dies out

plunder pass = increased longevity of the game

and possibly this is a way to fund their upcoming game everwild was it?

so saying that my arguement is ungrounded then let me ask: how long will they earn money from sea of thieves without further adding things to be purchasable with money

seeing it as it is right now 95 million people use steam actively every month (by checking their recent user report) and joe said they gained a million new players from steam alone thats a great launch off i mean a hefty 39.990.000¤ (28.000.000¤ actually forgot valve takes 30%) during a month thats an okay amount to earn for a company it covers the costs of making sea of thieves and covers the costs for a few months worth of content but 1 million out of 95 million users

that is 0.95% of steam's userbase meaning 94 million people have no intention of buying sea of thieves or hasn't heard of sea of thieves so lets take an ponder at this and think about it at a theory level

lets say 4 people buy sea of thieves everyday for a month
now thats 1199¤ a month

and the most recent data on how many employees rare has is around 150 people

how would you pay 150 people their salaries with 1199¤ and still continue making content and new games? (purely at refrence)

now that you know my full reasoning for my comment do you still think my arguement is ungrounded?

@expsnailer said in Plunder pass:

@dlchief58 That's fantastic they actually released the percentage of players split from playing adventure. Thanks for backing my argument ❤️

Wow, you really are deluded if you think that that in ANY way backs up your argument when in actuality totally debunks it....anyone with a lick of sense and basic math skills can see that. Furthermore as pointed out, it isn't 3% of the population but 3% of the PLAYTIME meaning the split you complain about is even less than that...making the "divide" negligible for all intents and purposes.

@expsnailer said in Plunder pass:

@dlchief58 that's 3% of playtime not spent in adventure anyhow if your trying to debunk my argument to remove arena this actually helps it. The developers are even seeing that it's a bad edition even to the extent of cutting any updates for it. ❤️

I've already debunked your delusional theory (well Rare actually, I just brought it to your attention) so no need to keep beating that dead horse. Your whole premise that it was detrimental to Adventure by drawing away players, thus should be removed. We now know that is NOT the case, so now you shift the goalposts just so you can say you were right (when you clearly were not). Keep living in your delusions, as we have repeatedly said (and now proven) - Arena had absolutely no effective split of the player base from adventure....PERIOD.

You could be a man and admit you were mistaken, somehow I doubt you have the humility to do so. Or you can continue to make a fool of yourself - your choice. Either way my work is done here.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.....