Get rid of cross platform play.

I'm on console - so I don't know the PC lingo: What's a trackball?

"using a trackball to aim'
AYY LMAOO!!

My dude, trackballs are horrible for gaming.
Also, i'm a very agressive pvper and i play at mythical settings, doesn't make a difference.
Sometimes i switch to cursed graphics, but thats because of the input lag post processing causes.

Nobody summoned the @Deckhands yet?
Disapointing…

Nope not going to happen, see the multiple megathreads why.

Enjoy the Seas

@spunkus-skunkus well said indeed.
Unfortunately all that happens when ANOTHER new face comes to discuss this issue is exactly what is happening above. All the regular defenders of forced crossplay show up in an attempt to shut down the post.

@SquaZ05 yes optional means optional. I have 2 friends on PC who i would enable crossplay for. If im with my xbox crew, solo or duo then i would be turning it off. Coz it would be my choice. It would make zero difference to you, as me turning crossplay off is the same as me deleting the game. You will never share an adventure with me either way. The only difference is Rare would still have my support if crossplay were optional.

Got any facts that 'everyone' would turn it off and never come back? Or are you just making it up? Those players obviously DO NOT want to play with you, so just let them go already.
And seriously, lots of players choose console due to the mostly level playing field, especially when compared to the PC market. Myself included. You shouldnt go around calling people liars.
And again with the xim. There are like 7 people using xim on xbox. I'll take 7 out of the 86% xboxers over 16% PC thanks. The truth is, 99% of xboxers are standard controller users and 99% of PC are kbm users. So yes, optional separation based on platform solves all the issues on xbox. If you feel that PC controller users are at a disadvantage, maybe start a non crossplay related thread on the issue, with some ideas on fixing it? But stop using it as a lame excuse to force crossplay on everyone.

@ChewyWarden ahh no, you cant just plug in a kbm and expect it to work, not true.
Some PC players intentionally turn graphics down for a smoother, faster game. They still have superior kbm inputs. Care to explain how 4k helps in CQC? hint: it doesnt, it just looks prettier . You might see a shipwreck a second earlier, but it doesnt give you larger hit boxes or auto aim.
Also, an xboxer does have the ability to blame a loss on PC advantage, because its actually a real thing(not always, some players are just bad). Funnily enough, a PC player can't do this because they are already on the advantageous platform. Your wins and losses actually get decided by your skill, not your hardware.

It is not tearing the fan base apart. We all still play the same events, sell the same loot, and sail the same seas, just on a 24 player server....oh wait we have already been 'torn apart' into segregated 24 player servers. You would not notice if optional crossplay were offered. We would still be playing the same game. 'Tearing apart' is false. If you were reading tavern tales, or feedback regarding bugs, or ANY topic, you wouldn't know what platforms the posters were on unless they said so. Thats still one community.

And to your last point...we are asking for OPTIONAL, so you wanna play with someone on a different platform? Easy, just leave it on. Wanna play solo on xbox without 4 player PC galleons? Easy, turn it off. Its an option, not a permanent separation like others are suggesting, in an attempt to stop the option from existing.

@D3ADST1CK @SquaZ05
yes, there are 3 xboxes and you would be looking at about 2 or 3 seconds of loading time difference between models. 4k does not offer any pvp advantage. Elite controllers allow you to remap an already existing button, so no acual extra buttons. Elite controller on max sensitivity is still trash compared to mouse.. Are you really going to compare 3 xboxes and a couple of extra controllers to the thousands of variant available for PC as well as all the hotkey and dpi possibilities on PC? lol xbox really is a level playing field when you look at it comparitively.

At the end of the day, we can keep arguing for each side of the argument. Rare are the ones with the stats. How bout you tell us what you found, instead of the standard cut and paste 'we are looking at stats, we take it seriously' they have been spouting for months. If there wasn't anything to be concerned about, Rare would have shown us. 'Here, we plan on giving a larger range to sensitivity.' Wow, and you thought controller accuracy was bad before. Increasing turn speed adversely affects accuracy. This is not a fix, Rare.

I play on xbox and my only gripe with pc players is that they can type to chat.
Envious of that one feature! Apart from that, no issues with cross play at all.
Half my crew play via PC. And they die just as much as me.

@spunkus-skunkus said in Get rid of cross platform play.:

I have yet to hear any real reason why adding optional crossplay would be a negative thing

You've heard plenty across multiple threads but just refuse to acknowledge them...

The biggest reason is that optional or disabling crossplay isn't solving the issue that you guys say there is, which is the unbalanced input device. So instead of trying to fix that issue you want a temporary band aid for Xbox players, which fixes your problem for what 2-3 months? All while leaving the difference exist for PC players that use controllers.

People that want to disable crossplay or make it optional are not looking to fix the issue between input device that causes the unbalance between players, they are looking for a way that makes their game easier.

@squaz05

I appreciate that this issue may have already been litigated and relitigated elsewhere on these forums. I have not read those threads and I didn’t create this thread because I wanted to argue the merits of cross-Platform play. I created it to offer my feedback and suggestions to the publisher, as per the title of the parent folder.

To that end, my feedback is that I don’t appreciate cross-Platform support because I don’t know what advantages or disadvantages may come from different hardware, and I would rather just know it was equal across the board than giving it anymore thought. My suggestion is that cross-Platform support be discontinued. That is the beginning and the end of what I have to say on the subject; except that a trackball offers unparalleled control and accuracy in any 1st person shooter, and if you don’t think so you haven’t given it a fair shake.

@squaz05

Not that I am concerned about. I don’t see a difference between the Xbox one and Xbox one slim. Maybe there is a more noticeable difference with the difference with the Scorpio, but I’m not worried about that. I’m more concerned about tweaks to the graphics card settings outside of the game settings. Tweaks that can affect things like draw distance and fog rendering. And there is no way to balance the difference between input devices within the game settings. Yes, an Xbox player could figure out how to use a trackball and keyboard with their console, but if they are the kind of person that could be bothered they probably wouldn’t own an Xbox in the first place.

I used to only play games on a PC 15 years ago. But then life got busy and I don’t have time to invest in tweaking an old PC to get new games to run. It’s an inherently less robust and flexible platform compared to PCs, but there are two upsides to using consoles. Every game that is published for your console can run reasonably well on your console, and multiplayer games are more fun because everyone is on a level field.

This became especially apparent when I messed around with ARK, where hiding in the shadows and hiding your stuff in the underbrush were important strategies for low level players. I saw on steam forums that PC players were regularly frustrated by other PC players that were abusing brightness and draw distances to see things that should have been hidden, and I thought, “Boy, aren’t I lucky to be experiencing this on the Xbox where I’m not always wondering if the guy who killed me was cheating”.

I’m not interested in your arguments because they are unpursuasive on their face and I can’t be bothered to waste my precious free time on researching this issue to confirm that my suspicions are unfounded. I want to plunk down on the couch after the wife and kids have gone to bed and boot up my Xbox for an hour or two without wondering or talking about whether or not PC players have an advantage.

@m1sterpunch

You phrase that like a counterpoint, but I’m not sure where you’re disagreeing with me. Yes, I expressed an opinion in the forum for opinions. I’m gratified to hear the opinion is expressed everyday in a new thread. It means the opinion is widely held and maybe Rare will take notice. Others may have different opinions, and they can share them. I’m not interested in their reasons and that don’t have to give any thought to mine.

Please change the title of this topic to “[mod edited]” I’m so tired of the [mod edited] in this game. I play on Xbox, and my friend plays on PC, how about let’s not disable crossplay, grow a pair, and stop being a “[mod edited]”. This is a videogame, a videogame that isn’t an Esport. At what point is the advantage so great that’s it’s ruining the game for anyone? Seriously, maybe you just need to get better, funny thing is, how many Xbox players are probably wrecking you, and you don’t even realize it.

HERE’S THE BEST ADVICE ANYONE CAN GIVE YOU:
Enjoy yourself, sail the seas, make friends, laugh, and have good times.

Stop with this disable crossplay debate, it’s pathetic, and tired.