Gamespot interview - Rare Aims To Give Sea Of Thieves Fans What They Want

They went through the forums and feedback, read the suggestions, disregarded pretty much all of the good ideas that got buried in the mush of complaints and defenses and instead, they give you chairs. They also force you to cooperate(Which is fine, sometimes.) in not one, but three separate events. So they aren't giving players what they want because players don't know what they want, why? Because there is no firm ground to stand on with SoT. The only thing any one of any of the people here playing, not playing or hasn't played yet know, is that it is a new IP, has room to grow and kind of feels like it is being completely held back by questionable design choices. However, you won't get that notion through to rare because there is far too much defense of opinionated design choices going on.

Great to hear they are saying they are listening, but I am just seeing "Their" vision come to life and the GaaS thing has only impacted one thing so far "We want to work with crews more."

@sshteeve Focusing on one event? Why, cause I said chairs? Because it was pretty sternly looked at and said "really" aside from the people on this forum that will defend absolutely everything RARE puts out? Not the other 3 things (THD included) that forced co-operation since THD and continues to do so, even after people said that it was a mixed review of wanting to co-operate or not? Really now?

The shark? The giant oversized shark that plays no relevance other than being another kraken and people saying "Again" when it happens? Alright, I'll give ya that one.

Commendations are another word for daily/weekly. The new skeletons are kamikaze skeletons.

Sails are a mystery, but it literally just sounds like something they said they wouldn't add, which is AI ships which is good. However, the word "AI" or rather abbreviation AI is used loosely in SoT's and it is a really big mystery as to why that is.

It's great you're getting what you want, but I tell ya what. Spend some time outside of the forums, look up things about SoT's, comments, media flow, current state of the game type stuff and then tell me that you liking the game is going to keep it alive in the months to come.

@kashaarafall said in Gamespot interview - Rare Aims To Give Sea Of Thieves Fans What They Want:

They went through the forums and feedback, read the suggestions, disregarded pretty much all of the good ideas that got buried in the mush of complaints

can you name two that are not either in the game or on the roadmap?

I dunno... maybe I'm more creative than you in how I approach the game, but powder keg physics alone open up a TON of new and fun ways to mess around with stuff.

The patch could've been just that (well, and the snake poison fix, maybe) and I'd be happy for two months.

@sloompie said in Gamespot interview - Rare Aims To Give Sea Of Thieves Fans What They Want:

We all know this is the forum for the real "fan-boys" if u say one thing wrong about how rare does there things or how they listen. All off the 50 fan-boys jump on you like the sharks did back when the megalodon was new.

I wonder why this narrative comes up as soon as there is some substance added to the thread.
Honestly: If objectively debunking a pointless, hollow rant-post makes me a "fan boy", then I'm a proud fan boy.

'Rare aims to give Sea of Thieves fans what they want'
Soooo...Optional crossplay confirmed?
Incoming fire!

@xx-mirth-xx said in Gamespot interview - Rare Aims To Give Sea Of Thieves Fans What They Want:

See the Destiny community if you want a perfect example of fans getting what they asked for and hating it.

I want to add that people really need to learn the difference between "being the community" and "being part of the community".

@hynieth hey, just to be clear, 'hate' is a strong word, i didnt say hate, but it would be good description.Nothing against the people, just their equipment 🙂
I agree that kb/m support would level some of the field, but would also un-level the field for people that cant afford them/dont have experience with kb/m/dont want to use them(thats me).
I also feel that control sensitivity couldnt really be much higher without accuracy getting noticably worse(especially when compared to a mouse)
On top of that, theres all the other differences that have been discussed before(PTT, text chat, FPS, refresh rates, monitor vs tv, loading times, and so on...Yes kb/m is probably the most important, but they all add up🙁.
Anyways, this wasnt really a crossplay thread, im sure theres one up and running somewhere, so i'll go before Kat yells at me😉

@xx-mirth-xx Sure.
So say we have 100.000 players of SoT.
This means that 100.000 form the community.
I see a lot of claims in those rant-posts with the narrative of "Rare is not listening to the community".
This claim is logically false unless those people work for Rare and are able to proof that Rare goes "f**k them all, we don't care".
The claim is further debunked by the fact that requested changes are in fact being put in place.

What the posters really mean is "Rare is not listening to me" ("me" being the part of the community).
I figure they don't say so in a thread because they realise how incredibly selfish (and, depending on the listener, childish) such a claim would be.

So one, two, not even 500 people complaining on these forums can possibly argue that they are "the community".
Actually, unless all people that form the community agree on something, the claim can never be made.

I'm a grown up, I neither need nor want somebody else to speak on my behalf if I don't share their views.
Claiming that Rare is not listening to "the community" is a polemic, unreflected and most of all unproductive claim.
It solves nothing.
It does not help.
It's pointless.
It's factually wrong.

Now one could argue that people paid the money. Awesome, let's do some math, shall we?
So the game comes in at $60.
Deduct the license fees, handling cost, production cost (in terms of the DVD case etc.) you'll likely end up with $40 (which is a number very much in favor of the player, in reality it will be a lot less).
Given the average salary of an average developer in the UK, you just bought yourself an hour of time (again, very much in favor of the player).
Reading the pointless rants alone is more than that.

That is your "right" to complaints.
Everything on top of that is Rare being nice and listening and, if your suggestion is thought through and viable - which about 95% of all suggestions here are not - then Rare will even implement it for you.

All I know is people have been screaming from the highest mountain.

"We want loot for killing the meg/kracken"

"We want more ways to earn rep that isn't a grind"

"We want a reason to explore random islands"

"We want a system in place that makes parly easier"

None of these are in the game yet and I haven't heard anything about these getting added... none of them seem like they would be hard to add ether. So if Rare was listening... where are these?

I will say, Rare acknowledged fishing which they have said is the #1 request so If they add this in a fun and meaningful way I would be impressed. They are also adding rowboats which I know I've heard people request.

It's to early to tell if Rare is reallllllly listening. No one asked for thrones.... no one asked for exploding skellys. Will see at the end of the year.

@katttruewalker

I am not going to comment on the addons ThD, Thrones or the latest patch as we've not returned to the game for about 8 weeks now.

The stats presented go with an old saying of 'statistics and lies' which having worked in digital data, analysis and reporting I have seen to many twists by orgaisations to 'big up' what they want and hide or deflect attention from other facts.

I hope that Rare are reading the complaints from players. I will be very surprised if PvP has really dropped. The ThD claim is probably only valid for a matter of a few hours before the reported camping of Merrick started.

Things could be done much better to manage 'crew' PvP kill/sink balance and some ideas have been posted that retain the PvPvE and surprise/trust issues the game uses ( so no safe zones/PvE only).

Rare do need to review and work on crew balancing. The videos and stuff done so far is unsatisfactory, or things would have abated. Then perhaps, we can arrest some of the human conflict that gets played out in the forum.

@stratcat51 said in Gamespot interview - Rare Aims To Give Sea Of Thieves Fans What They Want:

Rare do need to review and work on crew balancing. The videos and stuff done so far is unsatisfactory, or things would have abated. Then perhaps, we can arrest some of the human conflict that gets played out in the forum.

Do you have something specific in mind here?
I don't have problems with it but I could be a lucky minority.

@katttruewalker

Forgive me reading between the lines but, the 'during ThD' measure could be a very small window of time, so 50% PvP reduction statement is a nice 'sound bite' but worthless if taken at face value.

@Lefaux2

A number of people have posted. Many simply asking for PvE only or Sloop onl servers etc. These are often responded to with derisery comments, at worst the we won't miss you or 'felicia' and 'git gud' posts.

I can understand some getting fed up with the complaints and requests but having been subject to similar experiences to some of those players, AND not being that great of a PvP combatent I do understand their resulting complaints.

As a closed crew player it isn't simply a case of going via discord or whatever.

The game needs to consider new or weaker PvP player crews and find a way balance PvP better. I have posted what I think is a proposition that tries to do this. Trying hard not to penalise crews that defend themselves but equally moving more PvP biased players on to play against similar rated players. I can't link tothe debates from the device I using to reply or I would.

Bottom line is it needs alaysis of each players SoT pvp results and application of upper and lower pvp ranked servers.

@lefaux2 said in Gamespot interview - Rare Aims To Give Sea Of Thieves Fans What They Want:

@kashaarafall said in Gamespot interview - Rare Aims To Give Sea Of Thieves Fans What They Want:

They went through the forums and feedback, read the suggestions, disregarded pretty much all of the good ideas that got buried in the mush of complaints

can you name two that are not either in the game or on the roadmap?

An actual economy and reasons for the factions besides standing there looking ugly and handing out fetch quests. That was easy.

@hynieth

That is an interesting analysis on regions and it could be linked to concurrent player numbers as much as anything.

I haven't tried anything like that but analysis of the background player data would potentially offer all sorts of opportunities.

Our crew would probably like to come back to the game, but we've watched and read feedback but until we feel that crew combat balancing is addressed, we are staying out.