"It's only a beta!"

  • The thing I continue to not get, is what "content" is supposed to be in this game. There's certainly more layers of "stuff" to do that they could add in - fishing, card games, etc. - or more mechanics they could layer in (and they probably will over time). However, these things do not fundamentally alter what game Rare was trying to make: a social pirate game, with simple quests that serve as a simple scaffolding to get people to engage with the actual mechanics - namely, the naval and land combat.

    And no - what you see is not what you get, because we already know there's still stuff being held back for release day and beyond. Personally, just having stuff finally actually matter will be game changing for me... no more grinding entry level gold hoarders quests for a limited selection of stuff, only to have progress reset week after week, so you can do the same entry level quests over again. I actually think running so many betas/scale tests with the same limited set of content was a mistake; people get into a rut and go "is this it?", because the reality is that people see "beta tests" as pre-release demos these days.

  • @sortius I've been to a lot of proper beta tests too (BF3-BF4) and SoT is one of the most lacklustered betas I've played in a while. Maybe you have diffirent experience but this is mine.

    I didn't even mention leveling or gear grinding. But let me ask you, where is the option to fish? Where's the option to bury chest? Why are there only 4 weapons? Those are the thing people have been asking for since the game came into alpha and I have yet to see them.

    Maybe I just expect more from a $60 game with MTX

  • there is a reason they call them beta, not Early Access or DEMO
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  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley compare this sandbox to any other sandbox on the market and you'll see that SoT lacks a lot of tools.

    Good thing it's not trying to be "any other sandbox." I dont know how many times can I make my point and you'll still miss it.

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @its-s****. and DayZ is only an alpha even though it has been out for 5 years, I wouldn't hold my breath.

    day z is made by a few dudes in a basement. this is a AAA game with a multi billion dollar company backing it. terrible comparison. for shame.

  • @dewradley the only point you're making is that the game is suppose to be barebone because kid have imagination.

  • @cwarrick66 which is why it's funny because you would think that a AAA studio would have gotten futher in 4 years.

  • @zynthetikk86 So you've done two beta tests for games that were heavily limited during the beta.

    Not sure what fishing has to do with being a pirate, in fact, I don't recall ever reading a story/watching a movie/tv show where pirates spend their time fishing.

    The lack of burying treasure is an interesting one to bring up, and while it does seem 'cool', I can't see that as a reason to have a hissy fit on the internet.

    Not sure why you need more weapons, though. Sure, having multiple loaded pistols would be seriously cool, the devs have addressed this. They've stated they wanted a level playing field where people can only equip two personal weapons. As for having a greater variety of weapons, I don't think it would bring anything to the game.

    Many of us have been aching for a game like this. No levelling, no 'loot', just a fun game to rock around with our friends and do some stupid stuff. It's clear you've missed the point of the game, and that's cool, it's not for you. The answer? Don't buy it.

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley the only point your making is that the game is suppose to be barebone because kid have imagination.

    No my point is this game wasn't aimed at people with creativity and imagination about as deep as a puddle. It's aimed at people that think and do not people who are told and follow.

  • @dewradley this game is as deep as puddle, has nothing to do about being smart. Do you think games like rust holds your hand?

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley this game is as deep as puddle, has nothing to do about being smart. Do you think games like rust holds your hand?

    What do you want me to say here? Go play rust then lol.

  • @sortius those were just two I mentioned, I've done more. There have been many threads about new weapons like boarding axes, rapiers, harpoons, handheld bombs etc.
    Why wouldn't you want more guns? More weapons, more stratagies more fun.

    I will probably not buy it, I was looking for something deeper and SoT is too shallow for my taste.

  • either you dont understand what a beta is or your just trolling lol. what the flip flop does the leangh of time in development have ANYTHING to do with the contentvthey choose to include or exclude from the beta???

    you do realise this isnt the full game right? its a slice of what they have to offer. or do you think they coded all the content added from the last test to now in what a week? lol.

    while content levels can be of debate in this game, do not ever confuse a beta as a full game! that just makes you look clueless.

  • @dewradley you clearly don't get it either. No point in discussing here.

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @cwarrick66 which is why it's funny because you would think that a AAA studio would have gotten futher in 4 years.

    new ips are never quick. MS trusted rare with this and allowed them to build a game, as opposed to your "insert bi-annual FPS blockbuster copy and paste"

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @cwarrick66 which is why it's funny because you would think that a AAA studio would have gotten futher in 4 years.

    4 years is about right for any new ip regardless of the studio. its just we hear about games earlier on now rather than keeping them under wraps

  • @lumpaywk I never said this was the full game. I'm saying that we won't get any thing new that has already been stated.

  • @musicmee said in "It's only a beta!":

    @a-trusty-mango I know the shop is there but ship customisation itself is not...

    The shop is there as a hint of things to come...

    On a video last night saw someone spend 4,500 hahaha

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @lumpaywk I never said this was the full game. I'm saying that we won't get any thing new that has already been stated.

    There will be plenty as they can implement when they choose.

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @lumpaywk I never said this was the full game. I'm saying that we won't get any thing new that has already been stated.

    there is still a whole extra faction. plus different quest types for each. there is the kraken plus live events. thats just a sample of stuff known that isnt yet seen. i am unsure what other games offer that you think is missing? not to mention stuff we dont know about. we know there is diff skeletons we not seen yet and as youget more rep you get access to bigger more complex quests.

    what you said "So please, don't tell people it's only a beta, because what you see is what you get anything other than that is just denial or lies."

  • @zynthetikk86 Considering that they have only been working on it for 4 years, it is pretty impressive how fun the game is. It's exceeded my expectations and is just a fantastic game and can't wait until the full game comes out. Who else is excited for the full game release. :D

  • I agree....this game could and should have been much heavier in tools to play in the sandbox it is. There has been multiple sandbox games made by non AAA studios with much more to do right at release with much more added as the games matured. Rare has had a good track record....(15 years ago)

  • its for sure a fun game...will just die very quickly, and once most of those people leave it will be very difficult to get them back with other games dropping in the timeframe it takes to get the sustenance needed to bring them back.

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley you clearly don't get it either. No point in discussing here.

    No I don't get why you're complaining about this game not being like all the other games you enjoy. What you are expecting is not what this game has ever promised to achieve. Thank you for saying the discussion can end. What you lack in depth you make up for in thickness or you're just trolling. I hope you've been trolling.

  • @dewradley I'm complaining that this game is lacking in content, how hard is that to get?
    But I'm glad you have the mind of a 7 year old, maybe you will enjoy this game more than anyone.

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley I'm complaining that this game is lacking in content, damn how hard is that to get?

    Its not hard to get. Got it ages ago. How hard is it to get that the game never promised to have lots of the type of content you're expecting from it? If you don't like what's there that's fine. You were not the intended audience.

  • @dewradley there isn't a game on the market that promises "X amount of content" but the most comparable games to this one have had MUCH more content in their release...with most being cheaper than this game. It isn't absurd for people that had such high hopes for this game to be let down and be upset about that let down.

  • @dewradley taken from the website "Sea of Thieves is a new type of multiplayer game that delivers all you need to live the free-roaming pirate life."
    I'm sorry but I don't think the game delivers that because the lack of content. Doing fetch quest and PvP is not "all you need".
    People here are telling me that I'm wrong so I'll guess we'll have to wait and see on 20th march.

  • Content can always be added, updates or DLC.... other issues need checking/fixing hence the scale test etc

  • @the-warcrombie said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley there isn't a game on the market that promises "X amount of content" but the most comparable games to this one have had MUCH more content in their release...with most being cheaper than this game. It isn't absurd for people that had such high hopes for this game to be let down and be upset about that let down.

    Most people that are upset about content are only upset because they are expecting to see things in the game that were never promised. I've been following what rare has been saying and it seems they've given us what they promised and still have a bit more for release. If what's there isn't currently enough then I think that's people's own fault for expecting more instead of paying attention to what was being offered.

  • @zynthetikk86 said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley taken from the website "Sea of Thieves is a new type of multiplayer game that delivers all you need to live the free-roaming pirate life."
    I'm sorry but I don't think the game delivers that because the lack of content. Doing fetch quest and PvP is not "all you need".
    People here are telling me that I'm wrong so I'll guess we'll have to wait and see on 20th march.

    I believe they've given us all we need to live the pirates life. I'll agree to disagree on that point.

  • @dewradley Many people were led astray because of their comments about being able to get heavier hulls, larger sails.....that never panned out and they tried to play it off as a misrun by the interviewer...when in fact multiple interviews had them saying there would be something to that extent as it was voted on very very early on in development and it was proven people wanted true ship customization.

  • @the-warcrombie said in "It's only a beta!":

    @dewradley Many people were led astray because of their comments about being able to get heavier hulls, larger sails.....that never panned out and they tried to play it off as a misrun by the interviewer...when in fact multiple interviews had them saying there would be something to that extent as it was voted on very very early on in development and it was proven people wanted true ship customization.

    Well if it was dropped from the game why continue getting excited about it when you found that out? I mean if that was a make it or break it for you why expect to see it when told it wasnt going to be in. So you're telling me people were led astray because they weren't paying attention since the game was announced years ago? Sorry but just about every game in existence has dropped an idea or two since they announced the concept to the public. That's what happens through the developing phase they find out what the tech theyre working with allows them to create. Some stuff from the brainstorm phase doesn't make the cut. Happens often.

  • @dewradley it was confirmed not in the game like a month ago.

  • @dewradley To be fair though, one of the shipwrights I was chatting with mentioned a "Someladies revenge" ship she is building. This ship is going to have a larger jib(front sail) and extra row of cannons. So it would seem that the "No stat increase" rule isn't ironclad. I'm guessing that ship is for Legendary pirates/captains for when the game is launched.

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