Lack of a (good) 3 man ship

A Schooner would be good.

3 man on a galleon just calls for better team work and coordination.
But I agree, 4 man is the best.

I had this same thought. A 3 man ship would be sick.

@dubhaze93

In most cases, we have one on wheel/rear sail, one on crows nest, and one for front sail/mid sail/anchor. That generally works well, but I agree the ship is rather large for 3 and you are at a disadvantage to a 4-man with same ship w/+1 body. A smaller, yet only slightly more maneuverable, middle size would make more sense.

@dubhaze93 3-man ships would be a good addition. Maybe add a few more and change up the sloop:

Fluyt
Barque
Sloop (make this a 3-man with 4 total cannons)
Pinnace (make this the solo/two-man type ship)

@dubhaze93 Just let 3 people on a sloop max and 6 on a galleon, instead of the 2/4 limits we have now.

Even on the four man ship I feel the person on the wheel should be running the rear sail.

When things get hairy that 4th person should have better things to do than running all the way back to the stern.

3 on sloop would be a good compromise until they add different ships.

What about a barca is a two mast ship throw like 4 cannons it's a middle child between the sloop and galleon.

@mostlyjustokay said in Lack of a (good) 3 man ship:

@dubhaze93 Just let 3 people on a sloop max and 6 on a galleon, instead of the 2/4 limits we have now.

Only problem I would see with 6-man gal would be it would be nearly unsinkable with even a mediocre skilled crew. It would take a damn good boarding crew to take out enough members fast enough to not re-spawn and repair.

6-man would need its own slightly larger ship with its own disadvantages and advantages (like a 3rd lower deck, below deck cannons with reduced visibility but harder to be sniped)

I think a Frigate or Man O' War would be suitable for 6-man.

@rsgtivr6 It would change the current cheese meta of circling around and plinking until someone manages to get up a ladder, yeah.

Don't underestimate the kind of damage you can do with four cannons at once - that's a gunpowder barrel exploding on every reload, if your crew times and aims their barrage well. Sinking ships is less about total damage and about how much damage you can do quickly. With 6 people it would be far easier to get all four cannons going at once.

And, if they send everybody down to repair - go ahead and pull up and board. That's sort of the way it's supposed to work.

@mostlyjustokay said in Lack of a (good) 3 man ship:

@rsgtivr6 It would change the current cheese meta of circling around and plinking until someone manages to get up a ladder, yeah.

Don't underestimate the kind of damage you can do with four cannons at once - that's a gunpowder barrel exploding on every reload, if your crew times and aims their barrage well. Sinking ships is less about total damage and about how much damage you can do quickly. With 6 people it would be far easier to get all four cannons going at once.

And, if they send everybody down to repair - go ahead and pull up and board. That's sort of the way it's supposed to work.

True, but there are 1-2 man sloops taking down galleons at the moment. It would take a very inept if not downright brain dead 6-man gal crew for a sloop to sink it. The dynamics would shift completely for 1-2 man. While I get the thought that its designed to be harder for a sloop, it shouldn't be absolute insanity to be able to try. Just to give the little guys a chance, it makes sense to make the 6-man with its own vulnerabilities.

@rsgtivr6 If I had a 3 man crew on a sloop you could put 20 men on a galleon and I'd still give it a go (provided we didn't have to worry about current cheese-meta).

The sloop is always going to have an advantage because of speed and mobility on paper, they just can't make a mistake. Sloop v. galleon is also always going to be something of an endurance test. Speed/mobility v. firepower/durability.

A 3 mast 6 gun Barque or a 2 mast 4 gun brig would make for great 3 man ships.

@mostlyjustokay said in Lack of a (good) 3 man ship:

@rsgtivr6 If I had a 3 man crew on a sloop you could put 20 men on a galleon and I'd still give it a go (provided we didn't have to worry about current cheese-meta).

The sloop is always going to have an advantage because of speed and mobility on paper, they just can't make a mistake. Sloop v. galleon is also always going to be something of an endurance test. Speed/mobility v. firepower/durability.

Agreed, and I can respect your tenacity (or insanity). Nothing beats a good LeRoy Jenkins moment of running in to a fight you know you will most likely lose with a sword in one hand and your shamelessness in the other. Always a good time. Did that last night in a duo sloop on a galleon. My brother and I hadn't seen any PvP battles yet so when we turned in the loot and were done for the night with voyaging, we said "eff it, lets get that gal on the horizon over there." We sailed over and saw it was fully customized and figured we were about to get steam rolled, but we loaded the cannons and poked the bear. We didn't stock but 70 balls, but we had them running pretty good for a while doing a zig-zag behind them and a bit of circling. My bro hit about 15-20 shots in a row at one point and they didn't look so good, but we ran out of shot. Didn't last long after that.
Good times.

A 3 man, 2 sail, 4 canon ship is our dream boat! I play in a 3 often and the galleon is hard work. Doable but not ideal. Please - Rare - add a couple more ships soon.

I agree completely! This is my idea:

• 2 cannons on each side
• Instead of 3 floors (like the galleon), make it only 2 (like the sloop)
• The sizeof the ship should be in between the 2 ships
• 2 sails
• 3 cannon barrels
• 15 cannons for it's initial stock
• 250 for max cannon ball storage
• 1 banana barrel
• 15 banana initial stock
• 100 max banana storage
• 1 wooden planks barrel
• 15 wooden plank initial storage
• 100 max wood storage

Any info on this Rare? This is literally my number one wish! (atm) :)

@offsidepage That ship would dominate the seas. There would be no reason to run a galleon and the speed/firepower ratio would destroy a sloop virtually every time.

I actually think the schooner should be a 2 man ship with the sloop being a 1 man. Make a xebec the 3 man ship. It has 3 masts but it's more compact than a galleon and is designed for faster movement. Typically you would probably use is to chase and board.

@dubhaze93 I don't know.. me and my two buddies just sank 2 4 man crews in a 3 man galleon. It's all about strategy and communication.. some of those 4 man galleons have a mentality that they're invincible. That's usually what brings them down.

When skill is equal the fights come down to who has the most supplies and who can better survive bad luck.

The extra man is always a huge advantage, no matter how often a 3 man crew wins a fight. If a crew member dies from unlucky cannon ball, now you're 2 men on a gallon and easy pickings for any crew.

I truly wonder how in-depth Rare will dive with ships. Will we have different styles of 1-2 crew sloop? Faster sloops without cannons maybe, or vice versa.
Definitely an opportunity to mix things up and give us more experiences to have on the sea.