What can make this game very unpleasing

Rare just needs to fix the on foot combat, if the combat wasn't so buggy being able to tell if someone is cheating wouldn't be hard at all.

@nwo-azcrack said in What can make this game very unpleasing:

@eva1977
I think a matchmaking system based on skill would be a bit to tough for Rare to figure out. There are to many variables in this game. I know pirate legends that know every island by name and location, but get absoultely destroyed when they are forced to pvp. I also know pirates that are masters of the cannon, but cant defend the ship in close quarters. Im not saying its impossible. But it doesnt sound easy

How do you rate skill though? Stats recording for each player? The easiest I could see would be by rep lvl, but again, rep doesn't mean much, what about people who will buy the whole rep with doublons and have no idea what they are doing when in the arena? My concern with matchmaking is queue time. It's already long even without crossplay opt out, can't imagine how it will be if we divide players by ranking on top of that...

Oh yes well im lvl 31 now and so far i have got in maybe 4 spawnkill situations where one of those super players wipes out an entire crew..
This weekend we even got a experienced crew but we got slaughtered by this one dude bragging about his aimbot etc and 3 of us noticed we could blunderbuss him but not hit him as if he was already moved but we still see it as hits.. i dunno we changed server sometimes we just get outmatched but offcourse in all excitement no one freakin recorded this dude but it sure was fishy -.-

@eva1977 написал в What can make this game very unpleasing:

@bloodybil Ok so the conversation summed up is this.

Complain: Cheaters
Response: get good

I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt for these scenarios so other options and suggestions for feedback can be provided to solve these ongoing issues but seems pointless based on the responses.

Next time try to ask for Vids in lobby usually player that this good at game can show you how they killed you.
Once dude killed me underwater like 20 meters below there is no chance he could see me.
But ges what ? He show me video - he playing on a very bad PC with Cursed graphic and because of that his water graphic ugly as hell and he clearly can see models through waves.

And about your others text about "Other ships left"
Its their problem not crew that tearing you apart - they are just good at game. Don't let em board you next time instead of making topics that some on killed you in a PVP based mode.

You should've just recorded what was going on. It's so much easier to tell what exactly happened in your perspective. That way we can determine jumping distances from certain heights, how many shots actually hit or not, were heating food to keep health, ect....

This way Rare could also have an eye at what happened too. Its important to them as well

@sweltering-nick Can't remember but feel free to go digging through my posts to point it out if it concerns you that much.

@nefrit-od Wrong, you are not paying attention.

@eva1977 fair play to you, i must admit, i aint read the entirety of this post due to neurological issues with me old attention span and such like, however, i have picked up on the fact that Eva here, has raised a concern in what i would describe as a very diplomatic and non judgemental way with the aspiration to evoke a dialogue around it... and there aint half a lot of people coming back a bit more challenging than what one might deem as neccessary..... good effort Eva.

@nikjw Thank you!

@eva1977 you're as welcome as the flowers in may my dear girl.... thought it very refreshing that you gave your adversaries the benefit of the doubt as to whether they were cheats or just super good players

i can blame the other ships for leave your crew to bite the dust, i understand the leaving frustating but always leaving is just salt and not fun

@vapor1080 As an example, I played a couple of times with a gamer from Spain, he took games so seriously, he became a pirate legend in just a month for a second time because he did not like his first pirate.
To him this was no feat just a simple grind.
If you ask me i don't have the time to play that much nor do i want to play any game that much. So to have a gamer like this go up against casual players is ridiculous.
As I said before give points for fighting pirates on your level and no points for fighting lower ones, of course you can always do this as an option but It will reduce these situations where very experienced gamers blow away not very experienced.

@clumsy-george said in What can make this game very unpleasing:

@eva1977
Mrs Eva , it all comes down to a Player's mentality… You have People that only want to win...in an honest way which ..is fine. You also have people that want to win at all cost,using cheats altering their game and so on and...That'sad because a player that can't take a defeat will never learn from his / her /them mistakes …
In real life ,this attitude will bring them down if their life get's to meet calamities from all sorts …

Now , for this case ,you just described i would say you stayed too long in that game. i've been there too in circumstances like that and there is no fun anymore to experience from that kind of SuperPirates...You know they cheat and they feel invincible , and they do know better than anyone else that "banning " is mostly a joke...

You better walk away from that kind of games before it kills your and yer crews enjoyment...And above all , when you meet these kind of "SuperPirates" then don't blame a loss on any crewmember ...These People can wreck up Friendships and Crew comaraderie in an instant...

i have a different mentality, no i'm not saying that it is the right mentality but , let me try to explain...i'm very ,very slow at Pvp , and...i don't mind that , i know my weak point and try to avoid it , instead i'm quite not bad behind the cannons ,and i try to keep the boat afloat...If Pirates with more skill ( * everybody has more skill than you Moron) i try to ignore the bad comments they often carry along , and try to die in a fun way...

a week ago , i had a session filled with Pirates with a rather " bad" mouth ...It wasn't fun to play and we all left and went to sleep , it was so bad that no one of our crew wanted to start an Adventure anymore and ...that was wrong ...We can't let other Pirate actions or words make us decide to give up the game ...We need to search for new servers and try again the next day if those new servers seems filled to the top with grievers ,Trolls or " SuperPirates of the Cheating Kind"...

To come back to my story, the next day we tried Arena again and we had one of the best evenings Arena had ever offered us … Yes ,i got killed but did it with so much humour that many opposing Pirate wrote " Rolling on the deck from laughing" or " well played " if they let me have a meleewin in them…

That Tavern or Lobby was filled with great Pirates who enjoyed that an Old man was trying his best to entertain others and when the servermerge came along with people that told me to shut up , they were told off and silenced in a way that i had never seen...Without harch words , the Trolls became silenced , and left the next game...Trolls are allergic to laughing an joking goofs and they can 't prosper in a fun enviroment so try to create a fun lobby and half of the " evil " Pirate will take a hike…

i want to edit something: Please , don't let any Pirate take your fun away , if they use " Super" tactics then let them play alone by leaving...If people call you dirty words , let theml stew in their own pot ...Don't exchange daggers with them ,because you will only lower yourself to their level of intelligence...Let their words slide off you like rainwater and try a new server ...You know you are not what they call you , but don't let them take yer fun away...You would give them what they want.

^^^ Love this pirate, ever since ive been on these forums since the day i started playing through to PL and beyond this fella always talks so much sense!!.... gawd bless you clumsy george!!

There will probably be a rateing system at some point, but I believe right now the scene isn't big enough.
However I keep hearing this argument from salty pirates; "wouldn't you like to play against more dedicated teams rather than stomping?". My answer to this would be No, not unless there would be a reason for such as reaching high rating gave you a reward or similar (people would complain about that not being causual friendly tho!). My ego just like winning.

@clumsy-george “There is no greater misery than false joys.” ― Bernard of Clairvaux

This was always going to be a problem because of the lack of good game controls and unfortunately the type of players the lack of such attracts. Because of the lack of a solid grouping system and zero control over adverse situations with other players, Sea of Thieves has constantly attracted large numbers of trolls, toxic jerks, exploiters and cheaters. These type of players have run rampant in both modes, more do in recent months.

It is a problem with all online games. Problem with SoT is Rare really does nothing about it. It is why the majority of players stop playing this game after trying it. The brig system just locks the offenders in the group. Decent, good players are forced to relog and start over. Totally unacceptable.

@sweltering-nick "Well, too late, you already started dirt-talking PC players... At that point, a bit late to re-establish a position of objectivity. Clearly you are biased. : /"

My point was precisely not about dividing so no i did not talk dirt because there are PC players that can be bad at their controls as well.

I also mentioned jumping in the air while shooting down with precision or using your camera to look down while jumping is mostly a PC exploited option because on a controller it is not as simple to do it.

@eva1977

I'm one of those people you're talking about. I sink ships, I farm kills on ships that I clearly out-match for accommodations, I bucket the dust of "Pirate Legends". When I slay out and wipe a whole crew, I emote /sit beside their ghosts and have a conversation with them on voice chat.

It's not toxic behavior. It's strategy. It's the element of "Tilt". If I get you emotional, or better yet - get you to quit, I win.

You seem like the emotional type, so tilting you would be incredibly easy.

You also need to understand, you're not going to be able to compete with mouse and keyboard gamers, particularly ones with lots of FPS experience.

Think of it like this: Imagine you are a person from the year 2019, and I teleport you back to the stone age. You have an iphone and a gun. The cave people aren't going to understand the concept that the iphone is a computer in your phone. They don't even know what a phone, or a computer, or electricity is. That's you right now. You don't know how to PvP at the same level. You're not in the right mindset.

In closing, I suggest you stay out of the arena, at least until the matchmaking is fixed and there is an elo system or ranking structure.

Good luck.

@xxduluxx You could also be making this up, but if not then let it be a lesson to those who deny PC has no advantage over console.

I personally say its not about consoles or PC. As I said multiple times before its about the experience a gamer has.
You could have the best rig in the world and still struggle with simple tasks.

@nwo-azcrack I'll be queing all night in Arena tonight. Haven't lost yet today.

See you on the seas bruh.

@galactic-geek Seems a lot of players forget we don't all have time to play and refine our skills like others and this is KEY on how to make a good game for everyone.