I'm sure this has been said many times, but here it is again.
Microtransactions are fine. Warthunder actually does it well. But Warthunder is free to play, and you can progress just fine without purchasing anything.
There is no justification for adding microtransactions for a $60 game. My biggest fear is the few friends who I plan on playing with will simply not buy the game for that reason alone, no matter how great it is.
I hope they are smart enough not to add them.
@mudweller
I disagree, If microtransanctions doesn't give advantage to player and are more about skins and stuff that would be great.
@ant-heuser-kush said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
@mudweller said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
I'm sure this has been said many times, but here it is again.
Microtransactions are fine. Warthunder actually does it well. But Warthunder is free to play, and you can progress just fine without purchasing anything.
There is no justification for adding microtransactions for a $60 game. My biggest fear is the few friends who I plan on playing with will simply not buy the game for that reason alone, no matter how great it is.
I hope they are smart enough not to add them.
MTs are fine as long as we can't buy power and we aren't paying for loot boxes -- a chance to get an item we want. If Rare wants to sell a full outfit for $3.99 that is unique, I'm all for it, as long as that outfit adds no added bonuses and we can buy the full set, not a chance. When I say not a chance, I mean buy a chance for real-world currency, not there isn't a chance.
The "Pay to Win" question was asked in the livestream below for anyone that wants to know the answer to the question (Last 10 minutes or so). There will not be any Pay to Win mentality so if Microtransactions have 0 effect on the game itself I don't see how that is going to break it.
@ant-heuser-kush I have nothing against you bruh, I love everyone on here, but this is the lenient mentality that lead us to the loot box fiasco with EA/Star Wars. Just sayin' the writings on the wall
Micro transactions are kinda already here. I hope for no pay to win as well tho.
https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/29762/playing-cards-and-coins-have-landed-in-the-sea-of-thieves-store
Support the cawz so the game grows would be justification for micro transactions?
If Rare do add microtransactions they will be for cosmetic / aesthetics only. They have stated all along, that they don't want anyone to have an advantage, so no pay to win, better weapons, upgrades etc.
If the MT's are solely cosmetic, you are not required to purchase them, so won't really be an issue!
How is it we have 3 anti microtransaction threads pop up at once lol...people must have multiple accounts because i constantly see 3 or 4 of the same " i dont like this " thread pop up together.
Anyways ill say what i did in the other 2 threads. As long as MT are not pay to win then WHO THE F CARES.
Don'tlike them then dont buy them problem solved. Geez.
@misterdoomed again my problem isn't with microtranactions. It is the perception of microtranactions for a $60 dollar game. How many potential pirates will not even buy the game because of what they think it means about pay to play or just the principle.
If they add them they should be a few months after launch to not lose those initial people.
@mudweller said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
@misterdoomed again my problem isn't with microtranactions. It is the perception of microtranactions for a $60 dollar game. How many potential pirates will not even buy the game because of what they think it means about pay to play or just the principle.
If they add them they should be a few months after launch to not lose those initial people.
Honest answer? 60 bucks is nothing to spend on something i will get possibly years of fun from. Most people these days spend that on coffee in a week and literally p**s it away lol.
If spending 60 dollars is to hard for someone then they probably shouldn't be buying games anyways.
Just an honest answer sir.
@mudweller please use the search function. There are multiple threads regarding micro-transactions and it would be more helpful if you contributed to one of them, rather than add to the clutter of duplicate posts that plague the forums.
https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/29473/microtransactions/115
@mudweller
Then those potential pirates who have false perception of what the game is about or think it is pay to play will be missing out on a piece of gaming awsomeness!!!
@ant-heuser-kush said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
@misterdoomed said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
How is it we have 3 anti microtransaction threads pop up at once lol...people must have multiple accounts because i constantly see 3 or 4 of the same " i dont like this " thread pop up together.
Anyways ill say what i did in the other 2 threads. As long as MT are not pay to win then WHO THE F CARES.
Don'tlike them then dont buy them problem solved. Geez.People are blinded by loot boxes. MTs are not loot boxes, but loot boxes are Mts. Who cares if I bought a blue shirt and yours is green, it makes no difference in game.
As much as i disagree with you on other stuff ill give you credit here. I completely agree. MT are fine as long as its not pay to win on top of 60 bucks to buy.
I say more power to rare.
@drbullhammer I disagree. Anyone who thinks that micro transactions won't be present in this game is just lying to themselves.
Only game I've played that I think it's done right is Elite: Dangerous.
Their store for the game: https://www.frontierstore.net/game-extras/elite-dangerous-game-extras.html
Only cosmetic items and you get what you buy. No roll of the dice. Any other game with micro-transactions you either buy some weird currency or loot boxes, which I hate.
Elite: Dangerous has some cool cosmetic items to buy, but offer no other enhancements than "bling" factor. Although I would like to add that there also needs to be some cool items in the game you earn through play. Not really cool to only have the option of a banana skin suit to people unless they pay money for cool outfits like gold swords, shoulder parrot, etc.
@drbullhammer I was just saying that micro transactions are all but confirmed. They're going to happen.
You're correct, though. Maybe a Mega-Thread would help, so that the duplicate posts can be deleted and redirected. I support that idea.
@mudweller said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
There is no justification for adding microtransactions for a $60 game.
May I present to you Halo 5. Has had ongoing support and FREE DLC for 2 years now because of micro-transactions. Would you rather they release DLC that costs money and fractures the player base? What are your solutions to needing to pay employees as they continue supporting this game into the end of 2019.
@drbullhammer I was merely disagreeing with a mega thread because micro transactions are bound to happen.
@misterdoomed I never said it was expensive, at least not to me, but for some people it might be. And my friends have good jobs, it's the perception, not the money.
@drbullhammer hence me correcting myself previously. As stated, I fully support this. It needs to happen. The forum clutter worsens each day.
@sinvyus said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
Micro transactions are kinda already here. I hope for no pay to win as well tho.
https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/29762/playing-cards-and-coins-have-landed-in-the-sea-of-thieves-store
Support the cawz so the game grows would be justification for micro transactions?
Nah thats just merch that benefits the game, you actually get something physical for your money there, something you can use, wear or display outside of the game. Im all for that kind of stuff, more the better but pay to win MT's can go to hell (to put it politely).
If they want to sell a costume at a fair price (looking at you Fortnite for £10 skin nonsense) e.g 3.99 and its a full skin from head to toe then im ok with it. I get studios need to make their money and thats how you do it fairly to everyone. Lootbox chances or overpriced stuff and pay to win should not be allowed, theres soo much wrong with them (less the overpriced more the pay to win/lootbox chances) - That junk does not belong in AAA games. You get a greedy publisher that sees something that could work and pushes it to the max (looking at you actiscum) and then people claim its the norm....dont stand for it. Need more hate against it like EA suffered.
TL:DR - pay to win and overpriced MT's are all levels of bad - Cheap skins and merch are all ok.
@mudweller They have all but been unofficially confirmed. You wont be able to Pay to Win, but there will be cosmetic packs you will be able to buy.
Unfortunately its just how it is now. Litrally everyone buys them and votes with there wallets so they will always be added. As money and greed will always go hand in hand.
Its why love CD Projeckt Red, None in the Witcher. Already said there will be none in Cyber Punk.
I believe there quote was: "We will leave the greed to other developers" lol
Honestly, I’d rather pay a $5-10 sub. I want access and the ability to unlock everything. I don’t want to have to spend $1000 in MTX to unlock all the cosmetics in a game that only has cosmetics to unlock. The sub would allow Rare to keep making great content for SoT, instead of worrying about how many pirate jackets they can sell. Hopefully they would just keep adding content constantly with a sub, instead of DLC once a year. I think if the world is going to constantly change in SoT, a subscription will be needed.
@ant-heuser-kush I understand. I'm against the practice, personally, but micro transactions are everywhere. Even outside of video games. I'll more than happily purchase content for something I'm passionate about, though and Sea of Thieves is no exception to this. With a company like Microsoft behind them, we are pretty much guaranteed to get them. So in reality, all a Mega-Thread would do is clean up the clutter and I fully support that.
@ant-heuser-kush with constant delivery and the game going to MS game pass, I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a sub for SoT.
@ant-heuser-kush So now your talking a $60 game with a charge of $5-10 every so often. If that's the "bridge" needed then I know I'll take a hardcore pass and I'm guessing so will quite a lot of other consumers.
@mudweller
Then simply stop perceiving it as bad or poor policy. Or perceive it how you want but dont tell a company how to conduct its business based on your perception.
Either buy it or dont.
@spent-d Dont ever see there being a sub model, one the base game is too overpriced for a sub model and secondly sub based games do not do well on console. They arent booming successes like WoW on pc, there have been some moderate ones but then you get others that ditched sub and went free to play....Subs destroy a huge portion of playerbase, dlc is optional, a sub is a requirement.
@Ant-Heuser-Kush in all fairness, GTA V works exactly like that, granted the sharkcards are essentially pay to win in most respects but theyre constantly providing big updates for free. Its mostly to do with greed, Rockstar has had huge success with GTA V and its not to do with the sharkcards. You have Projekt Red basing their worth on the games merit, knowing full well their product will carry itself. Then you have other developers who plug their games full of MT's under the guise of "content" because the product itself wont be the required success without it.
@ant-heuser-kush right, my thoughts exactly. For them to ask $60 for the game, the game would have to be legit without them even adding anything. The sub covers content in the game from release on, server maintenance, etc.
@shadowstrider-7 said in If they really want to kill this game, add microtransactions:
@ant-heuser-kush I understand. I'm against the practice, personally, but micro transactions are everywhere. Even outside of video games. I'll more than happily purchase content for something I'm passionate about, though and Sea of Thieves is no exception to this. With a company like Microsoft behind them, we are pretty much guaranteed to get them. So in reality, all a Mega-Thread would do is clean up the clutter and I fully support that.
You might be against the practice and ive no idea how old you are but im old and it wasn't all that long ago that to play ANY mmo it cost you 50 bucks to buy the game 15 bucks a month to play the game and 50 or 60 bucks every year for whatever the next expansion was.
Be grateful for how accommodating companies are now in order to attract more customers.
Personally i wish it would go back to the way it was because it kept all the rift raff out of games and communities where better and we didnt have all the problems with trolls as we do now but shrug it is what it is.
@ant-heuser-kush Haha damn right! Granted though when I was playing D2 before they completely trashed it, the mt system was better than D1. At least you could earn what was available unlike D1. Still junk though.
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