Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages

@Admiral-RRRSole The game crashed when a crewmate was searching for chickens and with him the chicken coop that he was carrying was gone. Luckily it wasn't a snake basket, so we managed to find another chicken coop on one of the islands around and could continue the Athena voyage.

I think, just give us the option to buy cages for 100-200 gold each and it's fine. This is easy to implement and fixes the problem. I'm not sold on this inventory item idea.

A simple solution would be that if a animal crate is lost/despawns then you can just get a new one. However there is the option for this to be abused so Rare would have to implement a way to stop that from happening.

@admiral-rrrsole Perhaps if Rare were able to make the animal crates that were picked up by the crew at the merchants have a unique ID code that means if the animal crates are a set distance away from the crew for x amount of time they despawn and the player can then pick up a new crate at any merchant alliance. This would stop players hoarding animal crates but still give the player an option to collect a new crate for free if one of them was lost.

Me and my crew were once missing all our cages after being sunk by a crew yelling we're peacefull! (this was during the hungering deep's last week) and we had to get new cages baskets etc.

We needed a single snake, ONE SNAKE! for our athena's voyage but couldnt find a basket anywhere.

One of my mates was asking everyone who came to the ferry of the damned for cages and lo and behold a crew of legends had a spare snake cage lying around. They were kind enough to give it to us. And we were able to do our athena's voyage.

So yeah Rare please let us rebuy cages or something else so we won't be stuck waiting for the timer to expire when we lose a single cage/ basket/ coop.

No one said to minimize danger, or safe forts.
What was said is that animal crates should be for sale if the crate you had for the voyage is lost or stolen.

The way it is now you buy the voyage and the crates are included with the purchase of the voyage.

What this idea is suggesting means that the merchant should replace the cages at a cost, which is not unheard of.

The only part I disagree with is reducing pay for non-contact animals, venders can always find someone to buy their wares if the price is right for both parties.

@hoppentosse There's a difference between cages and loot.

The chickens pigs and snake are the loot. The cages are just there to facilitate their capture. Im not saying we want them for free. Most people are willing to pay for them.

For Athena missions you need to deliver a set number of animals before you can continue to dig up the chest. But if you've lost the cages (sometimes this can happen due to bugs as stated by someone above when a disconnect happens) you're going to have a bad time.

I don't mind sinking and losing chests, I can't care less. I can dig up more no problem. But I can't complete the mission without the cages.

@Sshteeve I think that if people want to cheese a merchant they already can. It's easy enough to buy a few missions have one person stand at the merchant taking the crates and 3 others voting to cancel and voting to start merchants missions (this is how we start athena's to get extra cages so we can keep the athena cages at the merchants)

@hoppentosse I never thought loosing cages to game crashes or disconnects was put into the game to make it harder. That's a totally new perspective for me. Thank you.

Without the risk of losing the crates the Athena voyage becomes just another worthless grind. The crates sittin on board make you think twice about everything and plan the voyage accordingly. After 50 levels of merch and now Athena 3, with my buddies higher at like 5, there’s never been a problem. Just guard them like the dickens. Yesterday we had a riddle we just couldn’t find on a regular voyage (even with some googling nothing) - I suppose there should be an option to trade those in too?

So TL:DR - in the end keeping it as it is adds at least a little risk and planning. Which I’m all for.

@hoppentosse said in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

@crimsonraziel sagte in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

@hoppentosse I never thought loosing cages to game crashes or disconnects was put into the game to make it harder. That's a totally new perspective for me. Thank you.

No one spoke about a crash, at least the OP did not, neither did I. You may fetch your perspectives at will.

You're right, this wasn't mentioned in this thread before the very first answer and has obviously nothing to do with the OP's issue. I'm glad you opened my eyes.

On the other side, no one spoke about stopping attacks on forts, at least the OP did not.
No one spoke about minimizing risks, at least the OP did not.

Honestly. They need to keep it as is. If you can not hold on to your crates you shouldn't get to keep them. When I pvp I always steel crates along with the rest of the loot.

When doing merchant or gold hoarders it's important to count your crates before you set sail.

@hynieth said in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

@Sshteeve I think that if people want to cheese a merchant they already can. It's easy enough to buy a few missions have one person stand at the merchant taking the crates and 3 others voting to cancel and voting to start merchants missions (this is how we start athena's to get extra cages so we can keep the athena cages at the merchants)

When aborting quests becomes the way to prepare for a quest, there obviously is something wrong with the system.

@captain-coel said in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

Honestly. They need to keep it as is. If you can not hold on to your crates you shouldn't get to keep them. When I pvp I always steel crates along with the rest of the loot.

When doing merchant or gold hoarders it's important to count your crates before you set sail.

May Almondbeard strike you when ever you pick up an item!

Besides, why on earth is it important to count my crates when doing gold hoarder voyages? Did you ever do one?

I like the auto added to your inventory, it help saves on busy work, and can disappear if you have all the animals captured near your ship so people can't merchant cheese as much.

This is a good quality of life improvement.

None of this even matters when you realize that you don't need to turn in the Athena Merchant quests... if you lose your crates just run around and do something else for the remainder of the time.

If you don't want to be stuck waiting for quests to time-out, then plan ahead... plan your route so that you can collect animals first and then turn them in as soon as possible, or wait until the end to pick up the crates if you cannot get them to the outpost without having to sail across the map.

You don't have to pick those crates up as soon as you drop the quest.

Off Athena's, everyone worries so much about "merchant cheese". Probably the dumbest thing I have heard of in all honesty. Everyone I know that cheesed their way through merchant took just as long, if not longer than it took for me to go through it just by doing voyages. And for those people that I know that "cheesed"...they don't even play anymore. When an event comes out, they don't bother to look at it even for a second.

People act like Merchant is so hard to do, and so time-consuming...but it is literally the easiest and fastest reputation to raise to 50, and pays the most in the process.

As for losing crates... well, you get sunk you lose your treasure too. Why do you consider merchant crates to be any different?

I would honestly like to see a way to BUY merchant crates to replace lost ones though...but that is just for the sake of convenience.

@crimsonraziel said in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

@captain-coel said in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

Honestly. They need to keep it as is. If you can not hold on to your crates you shouldn't get to keep them. When I pvp I always steel crates along with the rest of the loot.

When doing merchant or gold hoarders it's important to count your crates before you set sail.

May Almondbeard strike you when ever you pick up an item!

Besides, why on earth is it important to count my crates when doing gold hoarder voyages? Did you ever do one?

Lol totally mistyped that tired. And why would you wish almond beard? All I do is play pirate

@admiral-rrrsole said in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

@hoppentosse You're right in that I never mentioned a server crash or disconnection, That's because you would lose the entire voyage anyway.

I want to point out, that I was talking about client crashes not server crashes, just in case my previous post was misleading.

@captain-coel said in Apply the K.I.S.S. method to animal cages:

Lol totally mistyped that tired. And why would you wish almond beard? All I do is play pirate

You may take my first post in this thread as a hint.

@tartansnake-8 There are no random spawns of snake baskets.

Somehow ironic that I have to point that out.

@tartansnake-8 Never found a single snake basket on any island, except the unusable one on Snake Island.

And what's up with that image? I'm talking of that pattern.

@tartansnake-8 And suddenly this thread pops up as recent … Finding Snake Baskets

So random snake baskets were added last week according to this thread. Honestly, this is the kind of fixes I expect to be listet in patch notes. But I admit I was wrong.