Calling all SOTTERS, UNITE!

@karminiumsot said

I have now found the most optimized way to incorporate this idea. After every update or major announcement, Rare should release community-ran discussions using their resources to try and understand how the community feels about each update. They should allow not only SOT Partners, but devoted streamers into these talks so that they can find out from multiple perspectives what went right and wrong with their updates.

You think you have, but you really haven't, that's a lot of noise to filter from different ideologies of where the game should be.
The easiest way is to simply make basic polls/surveys, sorry but that's just how it is.

Doing what you suggest; pulling from Forums/SoT Discord (Just lol at that suggestion) can easily create an echo chamber [Mod edit - please keep misinformation out of this space]

They should allow not only SOT Partners, but devoted streamers into these talks so that they can find out from multiple perspectives what went right and wrong with their updates.

As mentioned above, that takes too much time, resources, and attention span to get out of.
You do know that RARE recently stated they were assembling a team of dedicated players for feedback content right? Wonder where that's been at recently... Right. Point. Proven.

@karminiumsot said

They are backed by Microsoft. They have resources. I think they should just do their normal community direct with guest speakers being the streamers via a Zoom call.

Idk if you are being sarcastic at this point or not lol.

lol yeah sure they have the 'resources' (Money). But what can do they do with said ''resources'' if the dev team continue to do the wrong thing over and over again.
Microsoft see a declining game that is Sea of Thieves and have ZERO issues squeezing the budget leading to lay offs.

@Musicmee comment below mine literally stole words out of my mouth. This so much.

@musicmee Why is it that they seem to be not listening though. I think people are getting worried because it appears our feedback is falling on deaf ears.

@tintintheboy said in Calling all SOTTERS, UNITE!:

@musicmee Why is it that they seem to be not listening though. I think people are getting worried because it appears our feedback is falling on deaf ears.

LTLoot (Former Comp player) said it perfectly years ago before the general peeps like you finally catch up to it all.

RARE create the game THEY want to create First, and then the players input matter as the follow up (Your opinion literally comes second).

Wether that is true or not, who knows, but that quote always stuck with me..
What surprises me to this day is the comp players in this game where always years ahead knowing the what the outcome of this game was going to be (Continued failures from devs, and lack of listening), yet the gaslighting from the average player silenced them, because ''You're being negative!!11!!!'' ''That's not true''' Rhetorics..
I guess you are more susceptible when your whole Community has been alt+f4 without a care in the world by a dev team that wants to claim that they care so much about the community's in this game.

Like I said in a previous comment, enjoy the decline while it lasts, RARE are going to continue putting on their facade masks when in reality they really don't care about you or the person next to you outside of the very rare occasion of massive outcry's that MIGHT force them to do little changes here and there.

@broadsideban That's true, but players have to come into play at some point.

@musicmee What is wanting you to apologise for rambling, it's fine bro! We forgive you!

I think what's going on is that something is preventing them from delivering good updates. Hopefully eventually (season 20) we will get something fruitful.

@realstyli I just realised this could be the source of our issues. Microsoft is focused on AI, not really gaming. It could be inferred from this that SOT is being put on the "backburner" as rare calls it in terms of funds.

@musicmee I personally don't see it working, and don't see a point in it. And I'm not trying to be overly negative here, just realistic.

The Devs, as far as I can tell, don't spend any amount of time on these Forums responding directly to feedback, or suggestions. They also do not communicate what constitutes good "Feedback" or "Suggestions". So no one has any idea if what they're suggesting is even feasible for the team to look into. Considering how long people have been waiting for simple Cosmetic Pre-sets, in a game in which Cosmetics are the ONLY reward, I honestly have no faith in that this conversation would even bear the slightest bit of fruit.

Realistically, what would anyone have to say in this situation? A game of nearly a decade old, and it hasn't changed all that much since I played back at launch, honestly. Imagine if the Cosmetic Pre-Sets got brought up in that conversation? That would put Rare on the spot; Either having to confirm or deny their ability to do it, or the usual, "We'll look into it" and it's never heard from again.

Now, don't get me wrong; It's a great idea in theory, actually having communication. But this is Rare, and this is Microsoft. Neither is going to put themselves in a situation in which they could potentially be made to look foolish.

@musicmee I see, I think you're right. I just hope that something will come, something fruitful that'll get us out of this patch.

I think ever since the announcement of the cancellation of season 19 things haven't gone down so well. I will admit I personally think we are judging Rare's every move to much but some of it isn't without valid reason.

Surely something will come soon that'll save us, I still have hope.

@xdreegan said

@musicmee I personally don't see it working, and don't see a point in it. And I'm not trying to be overly negative here, just realistic.

That's the overall sentiment now from a lot of players, funny how the tides have changed this past year alone. Welcome to the club...
Dw though, the continuous RARE [mod removed] defenders are working over time though... (Not realizing they do the most damage in all reality to the game).

The Devs, as far as I can tell, don't spend any amount of time on these Forums responding directly to feedback, or suggestions. They also do not communicate what constitutes good "Feedback" or "Suggestions". So no one has any idea if what they're suggesting is even feasible for the team to look into.

They gave up on replying and engaging in posts/threads. Maybe they will throw a bone comment once every 6 months to keep up the illusion on some awful post suggestion typed out by a 12 yearold. It's hard to disagree with you, at best they ''lurk'' which is a scapegoat comment to say devs still look at forums, just ZERO proof if they even do lurk.
That's like me saying ''Ill think about it honey'' translation: I'm not going to do it.

Considering how long people have been waiting for simple Cosmetic Pre-sets, in a game in which Cosmetics are the ONLY reward, I honestly have no faith in that this conversation would even bear the slightest bit of fruit.

I agree, It's pathetic at this point that it's not even a feature after 8 years.
I thought it would of come with Captaincy, nope, Pirate profiles, nope... What the actual... RARE?

Realistically, what would anyone have to say in this situation? A game of nearly a decade old, and it hasn't changed all that much since I played back at launch, honestly. Imagine if the Cosmetic Pre-Sets got brought up in that conversation? That would put Rare on the spot; Either having to confirm or deny their ability to do it, or the usual, "We'll look into it" and it's never heard from again.

Heavily disagree with that point. I just think the core mechanics of the game still being the same is giving you that illusion.
I once agree with your 2nd point, RARE won't be doing what the OP suggested, because it will put them in a nasty spot that just make them look lazy and incompetent how basic features are and will probably never be added to the game. We can already predict the professional subject switching that will happen out of thin air.

Now, don't get me wrong; It's a great idea in theory, actually having communication. But this is Rare, and this is Microsoft. Neither is going to put themselves in a situation in which they could potentially be made to look foolish.

Above point with that statement, so yes.

@musicmee Yeah, I agree on that, we need a quality of life season where it "resets" the game, a season where it adds what desperately needs fixing (exploits, bugs). Just giving the developers that time to rest as well, they have been working hard!

@tintintheboy said

Just giving the developers that time to rest as well, they have been working hard!

Uh-huh:

"... and then we kind of did nothing for several years and it kind of got a little bit out of control."

@broadsideban That's a fake quote, not real sir.

@musicmee said in Calling all SOTTERS, UNITE!:

I think with it being such a lean team they put more of their time into gathering feedback and suggestions rather than a dedicated person or team replying to every feedback on the Forum/Discord/Twitter/X.

I hate this. Why does it always have to be a choice between total radio silence, or someone responding to EVERYTHING.

What I'm asking for is so much simpler than this: Having someone on the team who can communicate with players to provide GUIDANCE. And I know they can do this to some degree, because I've seen Mods being straight up panthers pouncing on topics that try to stray away from the "Vision of a Shared World". I'm actually a HUGE FAN of this, because it lets me know "Hey, it's a total waste of time to think about stuff like this, because it's straight up not in the cards". I cannot tell you how awesome it is to have a clearly defined line like this, and I wish there was more of it.

Once that's done enough times, the community will be largely educated enough that you won't have to hammer home that point anymore, or the community will do it FOR YOU when it's brought up.

@burnbacon You can provide criticism while also chilling. They're not mutually exclusive.