Brand new to this game. Lots of fun but lots of frustration

  • Sequiro
    Sailor

    My best friend and I got this game over the weekend. We've been looking for some select games to play together, we've been playing BlackOps 4 and Borderlands 2. Friend suggested this game as something different to add to our rotation of games and it looked like fun. Being a pirate, sailing the seas with my friend fighting monsters and obtaining sweet loot. We took the plunge and jumped into it pretty blind really.
    We played on Saturday for several hours basically trying to learn the ropes quite a little learning curve I must say. But it was fun and exactly how I imagined. The game is beautiful the ship controls are fun, questing was intriguing. We were having a blast. Really surprised when we were out at sea looting some barrels we found out floating when a guy appeared on our ship. Young kid but was nice gave us tips and all, but was a bit intrusive not a fan that people can just come up on your conversations, join in on voice chat. Kept wanting to put us in some group alliance with him. (we just wanted to play together not join up with others) eventually he got bored with us and moved on. Met up with another group later that were also being helpful if not also intrusive... whats with everyone wanting to turn everyone into an alliance? Also this team kept trying to say they could give us a third man to help run the ship. I just kept thinking.. "no, it was nice to meet you but go away please and let us continue with what we are doing"

    Discovered from these chats that our ship was really too much for two people that we should have a sloop. Also didn't realize we could regenerate pirates during creation to get different pirate looks. So Sunday we just started over rerolled the pirates and picked a sloop instead unfortunately this is where the negative side of this game showed itself. We were complete fresh newbs doing the starting quests and hadn't even boarded our ship yet when suddenly some pirate ship appeared and started attacking our ship. The guy was yelling stuff, we tried to tell him we were brand new but he started saying that this was what this game was all about welcome to sea of thieves. I told him I thought he was just a sad little p**** making himself feel better by screwing with others and then we mermaided to our ship. An hour later or so questing at some island we are interrupted by a familiar ship this time with a full crew, one guy asking if we were talking **** to his friend earlier.. and then the original guy and another buddy of his just started attacking us. They did this repeatedly all day, it's like they were hunting us down on purpose.. basically camping us. How they kept finding us throughout the map..is fishy at best.. this was a horrible toxic experience. They eventually must have logged or something, but we must have been on a server of some really messed up people because we kept getting chased and attacked repeatedly by other pirates. I've read, people saying you need to be in bigger groups. NO I'm playing co op leisurely with my friend. No offense I don't want to team with any of you. Teaming with random people just turns it from a fun leisure experience to being something stressful where you have to perform up to some random standard of that group not to mention I can't just be my relaxed self around my friend when there is random strangers around in the same chat... Really not a fan of this auto joined voice chat; someone just eavesdropping on your conversations... Basically Saturday was a nice really fun romp through the game, but Sunday made me think money was wasted buying this game.

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  • MrMalfor
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    Do it like i do. You play a "thieves" game. Everyone you meet can be a bad pirate. Be aware, and if the guy is very brutal and danger, see it as an roleplay feature. You play a pirate game, and he is an bad, dangerous, pervers pirate.
    Why all think they play this game and jump on a flower meadow.
    You had an bad adventure. Im sure you meet a lot of nice pirates in the future.
    In the last 14 days i had NO bad situation with another player. Its curious, aye?
    I wish you good adventures in future.

  • Tundra 793
    Captain
    Insider
    Founder

    @sequiro Welcome to the Sea of Thieves mate, sorry you had such a mixed reception to it though.

    The game will be like that though, but as you get more experienced, you will get much better at limiting how much griefing you're exposed to, and of course there's always goin' to be good times to outweigh the bad regardless.

    I would like to offer a few words of advice, and context for some of your described encounters;

    Regarding "people coming up on your conversations". SoT is a shared open world game, so thinkin' of it as someone encroaching on your conversations to me sounds misleading. Your fellow pirates just happen to exist in the same world as yours, so what you say simply carries, like in real life.

    About the Alliance system a few players wanted you to join; Alliances in SoT are a pretty cool feature, and it doesn't necessarily intrude on how you're already playing the game. You simply hoist special flags that serves as the "Join" function, and also displays to other ships that you're in an Alliance.
    From there you can still voyage and explore to your hearts desire, the Alliance mechanic requires nothing of its participants, all that it does, is offer members of the Alliance a portion of each others loot. When another ship turns in loot, you get 50% of its value regardless of position or loot you might have turned in.
    People are naturally quite eager to form Alliances since it offers an easy way to earn a bit of extra gold.

    Now, we've all run into bad pirates. There are just simply people who want to ruin other peoples' games. That's not to say that PvP shouldn't be allowed, in fact you should simply always be prepared to fight, but camping and harassing are no-gos, and dependin' on how severely they harassed you and your friend, you could consider reporting them for it.

    But you're not powerless to fight back in the moment either. Sea of Thieves has a deceptively steep learning curve. There's so much more to it than shooting a cannon, and angling sails.
    A sloop can beat a galleon in a fight, if the sloop crew knows what they're doin'. I can't really impart over a years worth of experience here, but I'll do my best, so that the next time you take to the seas, you'll be a bit better prepared.

    1; When you spawn in, raid the outpost you spawn at for supplies, as much as you can grab.

    2; Turn off the exposed lights on your ship. On a sloop, that means the deck lights and the cabin lights, these will make it far easier to spot you from a distance.

    3; When on the seas, always keep a sharp eye on the horizon. When on islands, it is often a good idea to leave someone with, or close to the ship to keep a lookout.

    4; Plot your courses, and park carefully. If you're feelin' unsafe still, try and plot your courses close to islands and rocks, and when you clew up, park your ship on the side of the island facing away from the larger area of the sea.
    For example, if you had a voyage on Mermaid's Hideaway, i would park it on the far west side of the island, since from that point, your ship's completely hidden from the most directions.

    At the end of the day, you just gotta keep sailin', and be open minded. You'll learn a lot as you go, but don't expect to be a master sailor in a few days time mate.

  • A Cranky Eskimo
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    Sounds to me like you were looking for the hello kitty island adventure experience (yet still somehow got upset at people wanting to team up, aswell as the pvpers playing “sea of thieves” as it was designed, “yelling stuff” which was probably tactical callouts as you didnt specify and based on your post would have quoted, and then you got toxic and said they were p******, for playing the pirate game called “sea of thieves” as a pirate), from what i can see you are the one with a delusional unrealistic attitude about a game heavily featuring open world pvp and item theft, who was asking to be “followed and camped” based on your attitude about player interactions being intrusive whether friendly or not, which is a large part of the gameplay in this game. Player interactions in game chat and the physical world, to create stories.

    Try playing this game with a better attitude and even with all its shortcomings and problems you can put hundreds of hours in creating stories with your friends, provided you have the right expectations and put in some effort and realize its open pvp and its up to you to solve any problems that might arise through that with tactics skill and awareness.

  • Sequiro
    Sailor

    @a-cranky-eskimo

    Yelling stuff - Meaning lots of trollish and remarks not repeatable on the forum consider I can't even type the p word I was referring to and I believe you are thinking of the wrong P word as you have too many *'s when you psuedo quoted me. I mean pretty much if you are attacking two brand new characters and sinking their ship, a ship they not even had the chance to board yet, you have to be a sociopath and yes I'm aware that PVP environments cater to sociopaths its a perfect venue for them to get away with it without getting in trouble in the real world.

    So you are saying I deserved to be hunted and camped for hours because I got a little annoyed by a guy attacking us brand new out of the gate, trolling and taunting us the entire time? What, were we supposed to clap and cheer and offer him a banana? No I called him out for exactly who and what he was. I said my peace and I left. I've said it before in other online games and I'll say it again there is PVP and then there is sociopathic griefing. Where you aren't doing it for the benefit of an in game reason be it progression or even role play, you are using the games mechanics to purposely ruin other players fun and that's what this guy was doing and what his crew did.

    And you can be friendly and still be annoying and intrusive and I think boarding someone elses boat, rummaging through their stuff, and staying uninvited, talking and talking, repeatedly trying to form groups/alliances..etc after you've been, in the kindest way possible, told we're not interested. That is being intrusive and annoying.

  • Friedwilly
    Commander
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    @sequiro As a person who has played this game from launch and I sail solo alot, I understand your frustrations.

    I would recommend that you and your friend find some seasoned players to play with. This will help with learning the game and best practices. It will also give you a little buffer when encountering other pirate crews on the seas.

    Most established pirates are part of a Discord community and they can easily be found at the following location:

    Sea of Thieves Forums - Find a Crew

    If you are on Xbox you could also use the 'Looking for Group' and you might connect with a couple people through this method too.

    Here is a list of best practices:

    • Always be diligent and be aware of your surroundings.
    • Check your horizon often.
    • Always make sure your ship is adequately stocked.
    • Turn in loot frequently, never keep anything of value on your boat for too long.
    • Perfect the art of sailing and sailing tactics within SoT. This will help you immensely if other crews are chasing you down.

    If you are ever looking for help, just add me as a friend GT=Friedwilly

  • A Cranky Eskimo
    Master
    Insider
    Founder

    @sequiro im not saying you deserved harrasment in chat but idk what you were expecting from this pirate game called sea of thieves if you think players wanting to make alliances as you described is intrusive, as for the rummaging in your supplies, you have a cutlass and blunderbuss dont you? Warn them first then use it but dont fully kill them, and warn them not to touch any othet things, or kill them, if warning them outright dosnt work, and if you dont want to do that idk what to tell you. Stand up for your ship, if you find all player behavior intrusive and pvp that you feel unjust to be toxic, They do allow you to sink these people and scuttle to avoid unwanted situations, or you can change servers.

    The part about sociopaths is garbage, sure maybe sociopaths play violent games with more open pvp, and i could say that the military or any profitable business, that they are inviting to sociopaths also, does that mean all pvpers or businessmen or soilders are mentally unstable and just going about killing/ripping people off or whatever? No most people are just playing the role of pirates in the adventure game involving monsters and pve sure, but also pvp, with a lot of the pve serving to create pvp moments and change them with boss arrivals and providing all the stealable loot, that is literally called “sea of thieves”. A spawned ship also provides supplies like planks and food and cannonbals, and some people just want to battle, you arguing back gave them every excuse they needed to justify continued battling, and thats not wrong unless you think open pvp in the first place is.

  • JohnnyKAPPOW
    Champion
    Insider

    @sequiro Welcome! Sorry you didn't enjoy aspects of the game so far, but I am sure once you are more experienced you will enjoy more sides of it than you expected to.

    As far as conversations etc go - there are numerous settings to mute other crews if you want to only chat with your friend. The easiest would be to simply be in a party together as opposed to using game chat.

    Of course, even if you can't hear them, that doesn't mean you wont still encounter pirates lookin fer a scrap! It is after all, an open online world, so if you continue to play (I hope you do) it's best you come to terms with that. There are many strategies, as already pointed out, of engaging with other players. This can be one of the most rewarding aspects of the game!

  • D Jaguar
    Captain
    Insider

    @sequiro

    Welcome to the seas! it was suggested above to be in party chat with your friend vice game chat. This allows you to have private conversations without others jumping in even when they are near you. It is helpful when you are sneaking up on others and game planning your own attacks.

    The other players help make this game entertaining. As a new sailor, I recommend never joining an alliance. Start off trusting no one. In an alliance other ships can watch you wherever you go on the map. Some pirates use this to allow others to stock up loot and then they easily can track them down and take it by force.
    Stock your ship whenever you can. Also learn to use the brigantine over the sloop. Change your crew to closed and you can manage the brig. It is faster than the sloop and still more elusive than the galleon.

    The PvE can get boring at times due to repetition. Enjoy some pvp. It can be incredibly fun and relaxing as well.

    As others have suggested, if you want to learn some finer techniques, join a discord fleet server. Some have rules of being over 18. These fleets help newer pirates learn better fighting techniques as well as sailing.

    See you on the seas!

  • PirateCraggy
    Legend
    Insider

    @sequiro

    Welcome to the forum & of course the Game.
    Many voyages lie ahead, waters can be troubled & it's not always smooth sailing.
    It's a beautiful game, from the tranquility of the shores of Sailors Bounty, to the fiery depths of Ruby's Fall.
    A pirate must always be prepared, from stocking the ship stores, to pocketing a bunch of bananas... ready for the next fight.

    A Pirate at all times must keep his eye on the horizon.
    You gotta look out for sneaky Pirates or opportunities for fortune, sunken in vessels wrecked, or forts of Skellies.

    One thing you can guarantee is that everyone you meet will be a Pirate. But not all Pirates are the same, some are full of blood lu$t. Others like meself, a more... seen it all before... bought the hull, sat on a skelly throne type. Have become a little more chilled & relaxed in our interactions.

    The game is so much bigger than just.... all out slaughter. Some Pirates get their kicks that way... and why not. We are a community of many different types of Pirates, and there is plenty of room on the Seas for all.

    Brings me to an episode last night.
    I set off to complete the last Mercenary Voyage in the Devil's Roar.
    All going good, I had arrived at Flame's End to complete a 4 Skelly Captain OoS, little did I realise I had picked up a message in the bottle for the same island. (Another 4 skelly Captains)...... Wow..... 8.... and solo :)

    Not easy with the near by volcano going off every so often, but I got there.

    This isn't the story (Just a highlight of the evening).
    Now... where shall I begin?

    I then shortly after received an invite via xbox messenger, a gamertag I did not recognize. The context of this was I had just been on the ferry & glimpsed a very well known person on these forums just exiting the ferry. I was very pleased to see them even if it was for a moment.

    So... my guard was down a little when I received this invite. Thought to myself maybe a member of their party. So I joined their partychat.

    Entered the partychat to a tirade of abuse.
    What this 'person' had done was to look at their recent players, must have invited those he thought had wronged him. Accused me of being "all that".. that he had apparently killed me 10 times ( and he went on ), & told me to get my "A$$" to Crooks Hollow :)

    Well... that was a little unexpected, & I've majorly cleaned up his language :)

    So.. yes my mistake to join his chat. He had completely mistaken me for someone else.. or someone who even gives a damn.
    Blocked him & his matey, did not on this occasion report him as it was a case of mistaken identity.... but how rude!!

    So... yes... you meet all sorts :)
    The vast majority brilliant people... others well.... rather odd ... to say the least.

    Anyhow @sequiro , continue to enjoy your journey, keep going.
    There are many awesome Pirates on the Seas.. you just might not have met them yet.

    Craggy

  • D Jaguar
    Captain
    Insider

    There are many horror stories, but also glory stories in the seas. The moments we clap for one another after fighting for a skelly fort for a fight well done. The moments we have found sailors trying to accomplish an accommodation and helped them on their way (I was just trying to help them get the purple light).

    Or the time I met up with other sailors at the same island to turn in chests of legends while in an alliance. Alot of trust on that one as we had many chests on one island for photo ops and grog toasting.

    Like @PirateCraggy tells, you never know who you will find on the seas.

  • KiigelHeart
    Marauder

    Welcome to Sea of Thieves!

    First of all, if a crew of "sociopaths" is constantly chasing and sinking your ship, you can always change servers & problem is solved.

    What I suggest though is that see it as an extra challenge. We always thought "alright then, this is what we're dealing with today while doing our voyages". This way we improved our play quickly. Not only gameplay mechanics but you can actually learn to anticipate the behaviour of other pirates & outsmart them. And honestly, it's simply more exciting to dig up chests while someone tries to steal it. It leads to some unforgettable moments. Next day could be peaceful & relaxing.

  • ViperishEmu2992
    Marauder

    Sorry to hear that. I'm a PL10 who's been around since launch so I've encountered a few hundred players like those that you mentioned (the bad one's).

    As a female player it's not especially fun to get called a C*** and told by these incredibly noble and admiral players how they are going to sexually assault you. I just pity them. Hopefully they will grow up to become decent human beings?

    Words of encouragement and a two tips:

    There's tons of fair and friendly players in this game. Many will be more than willing to help you out and give you tips. Many PL's (like me) will even give you all their treasure since they don't really need it. Some players (maybe the same ones) may also occasionally sink your ship and steal your treasure, but that is also part of the game.

    Tip 1: If you run into vile players or trolls just start a new game on a new server.
    Tip 2: Have some recording software (PC) ready and try to record any overt "nastiness". Send Rare the footage.

  • Nabberwar
    Lord
    Insider

    Side not, BORDERLANDS 3 BABY!

  • LucianSanchez82
    Legend
    Boatswain
    Founder

    @sequiro Sorry you had a bad starting experience matey. Though let me say that you're doing it right - playing the game the way you want to (that's really what it's all about). The beauty in this game is that it gives us all the freedom to play as we will (within the pirate code, of course). Unfortunately this means that some players are simply out to sink other ships and steal a little loot, which obviously can lead to frustration but it's all part of the highs and lows you'll encounter throughout your journey.

    My advice. Stick to your guns. duo sloop, whilst "harder" than a full four man crew is perfectly viable and great fun, so if that's how you and your friend want to play, then keep playing that way. Before anything else, be aware of your surroundings. Being set upon when you first spawned in was pretty unlucky as the game actually tries to load you in to an outpost that's a good distance from any other ships on the server to give you a fair chance to get your parrots and monkeys together and set off, so I hope that doesn't put you off. But where ever you are, keep a weather eye on the horizon for other ships. Perhaps you hung about the outpost a little too long, perusing the shops, figuring stuff out. But in time you'll soon be in the swing of loading in, gathering supplies, and setting off on a voyage within minutes.

    Try to keep away from other ships for now (easier said than done sometimes) at least until you get a better feel for your ship and the layout of the map in order to give you a better chance of handing in that sweet loot. But do bare in mind, you will at some point get in to a scrap and you will some times lose. Try to brush yourself off and carry on. If you find you're being harassed, I would advise logging out and back in so you'll be put on a new server. If they're particularly toxic players then it's worth reporting them to Rare so they can decide if any action should be taken against their behavior (we follow the code).

    Anyway, I'm rambling now, as I tend to do. I hope this early experience doesn't put you off entirely, there's an absolutely beautiful game here for you to discover, if you give it a proper try!

  • Khompewtur
    Insider

    Priceless!!!

  • A Cranky Eskimo
    Master
    Insider
    Founder

    @viperishemu2992 i mean your not wrong about people who would call you that and as it takes two to tango i tend to play pvp devils advocate, not to defend harrasment in chat or say they are noble for attacking easy targets, but to explain that if you get frustrated with pvp or spawn camping, and then try to talk the players down like some sort of hostage negotiation where you clearly are acting entitled to not being attacked and acting as if their attack in a video game makes a worthy judgement of their real character, that is where the actual toxicity seems to start from my experience. When someone screams at me to “get the f away from my ship you guys are all holes” thats the only time i would ever be like “stu its a pirate game about theft! Pay attention!” The point is choosing to pve dosnt give you some sort of “im a better person than you” shield like people act lol.. we are all just playing a video game that has little to do with who any of us really are. Generalizing all pvpers who dont ask politely to battle and calling them sociopaths is the same as any other bigotry, its not based in reality.

    I think both people who swear and harrass in game chat without being antagonized, and those who take gameplay seriously to the point of judging pvpers based on pirate actions in a pirate game need to grow up. Its your choice to be a peaceful pirate who wont learn to defend their ship, or not wanting to be a dilligent lookout.

    And out of these hundreds of encounters how many times was it really just gameplay with some banter, rather than you being called a c word? Because again ive only ever heard malice in chat from people acting entitled to their loot or not understanding that im perfectly allowed to sink them.

  • dlCHIEF58
    Champion
    Insider

    @sequiro Welcome to the game. Seems you got a bit of both ends of the spectrum right off the bat, but luckily you encountered the friendly (possibly) before the other side. The game can be a mixed bag, and how you approach it with your own mindset can make all the difference.

    A lot of good advice has been given to help you along. I myself primarily play solo or with a couple of local friends in my crew so can relate to a lot of what you are saying. On alliances - be careful on them as they can be good or bad. If you get in a casual alliance, then it can be beneficial to your playstyle - you don't have to play with the others, you get 50% credit for what they turn in (as do they from your haul) and lose nothing from your treasure turned in (you and your crew still get full credit). So it can be beneficial and you can see why some were trying to recruit you. But you also have to be aware of the less scrupulous pirates who use it as a tool to hunt you since you would be visible on their map as well while being in an alliance. If that happens, immediately get out of the alliance at the first opportunity you get (i.e. drop the alliance flag as soon as you get back to your ship, and sail the opposite direction).

    Game chat is proximity based, so if you are near other players not in your crew you can hear them as well as they can hear you when nearby. As stated, you can switch to party chat to avoid this but it can be detrimental to your game as you would not be able to communicate with others (other than the text chat) so may not hear if someone is stating they are friendly (whether that is true is another story), if they want to gift you their treasure (common on islands in the Reaper's Run quest where Pirate Legends may have no use for the treasure or they are simply doing a "tap and go" to get 'er done) or even hear them approaching if they are speaking to their crewmate.

    Don't get aggravated by aggressive players, this will only cause you stress. I look at them as nuisances much like the Skeleton Galleons. Don't engage them in trash talk unless you are willing to back it up in battle, it only encourages them. Also do not be afraid to scuttle your ship to escape overly aggressive players, your ship will respawn a short distance away. When in a small, inexperienced crew it is better to do this than allow them to hound you. If this is still happening (and you aren't on some major voyage, standard ones are not worth fighting over) then quit out of the game and join a new server. There will always be aggressive players, either out for whatever you have on board or just out for the thrill kills. The only ones I have issue with are the spawn killers, those that consistently wait on your ship and kill you repeatedly for no gain. Scuttle and move on if this is happening, treasure can always be re-earned and becomes plentiful as you rank up.

    For 2 players the sloop is a good place to start. Once you get the hang of it you can even use that ship solo, but it takes more work and a lot more awareness of your surroundings. As you both gain experience playing the game, you should have no real problems handling the Brigantine with 2 and may be more beneficial - it is much faster and has twice the cannons, but doesn't steer as well as the sloop and cannot go in as shallow water. I play the Brig solo many times so it can be done, you just have to prepare your stops and adjustments more ahead of time since you have more distance to travel to get to the rigging and anchor.

    So no you do not need to be in bigger groups to play, though it is a safety net if you do. Just play the way you want but don't let yourself get overly stressed by others, look at them as another challenge in the game to be taken on or avoided depending on how you want to play that day. Every day and session is different, one of the good things about the game as it never gets old or repetitive. One day it may be completely chill, the next you have to deal with "dudebros" hunting you, and others it may feel as if every AI threat in the game is after you (Meg, storm, Skeleton Galleon, Kraken). Also don't be so quick to shy away from assistance from other pirates you meet in game, they can come in handy to help you defeat a Kraken, help you out with a Skeleton Captain bounty or even help you fight off another player - but also always be mindful of the possibility of betrayal. I am not a fan of those who board uninvited as you do not know their intent and is a bit presumptuous on their part - ask permission to come aboard. But at the same time it can be welcomed on a dire situation, I was being attacked by a Kraken solo one day and another pirate fired himself from a cannon on his ship to mine to assist in the kill (as he needed a few more Kraken kills for his commendation). Seeing as this was a player who had proven himself trustworthy, we entered into an alliance and went off doing our separate missions (and was quite lucrative for me as they ended up doing a skeleton fort which I banked half that for doing nothing but being friendly).

    Just don't get discouraged, learn the game at your pace and don't let others get to you - whether they be friendly or aggressive. And don't write off those friendly ones you meet so quick, they can be of great help - my friend and I even got someone to give us a ride to an outpost when our ship sank while we were fighting skeleton captains (I missed a hole in the hull) which was quicker than having one of us steer the ship back while the other remained on the island guarding the treasure (gave the guy a chest to cover our "fare" for taxiing us over).

  • Khompewtur
    Insider

    It's a tough game. My kids weren't ready to grasp the nuances of PvP action, and only wanted to focus on PvE sequences like skull-forts, and kept getting frustrated because they were always interrupted by other pirates.

    They've moved on to other games (Plants vs. Zombies is the rage now), but dear old Dad still sails! Not saying I may never get them on the seas again, but this game is geared for older players with a thirst for naval combat.

    Trying to "relax and savour" your journeys, is an oxymoron. I found this game so stressful the first few months of playing, mainly slooping was like being a fugitive always trying to run from the Natsi SS. My heart would be constantly racing and it seems like no instinct in the heat of battle ever paid off which made for trash confidence & battle reflexes.

    Once you get past your initial two months of apprenticeship, the game moves beyond being "Sea of Skulking, Fearful Rats" and you become a pirate. Sorry if the internship is so long, but for some it is worth it.

  • ViperishEmu2992
    Marauder

    @a-cranky-eskimo I thought that I was pretty clear in stating that there are tons of good players to be encountered in this game. I was trying to encourage @Sequiro to not give up on SoT because of the few bad apples. I've been playing since launch and just wanted to give him/her a few tips on what to do if you encounter offensive players (Which will happen).

    I never brought up the word "sociopath". I don't know how that got into this discussion. In fact, I pointed out to @Sequiro that some of the same Pirates who may help you out one moment are likely the same players that will be robbing you blind the next! That's the nature of the game.

    On another note: Whoever equated Sociopaths to PvPers is just wrong. Statistically there are certainly some Sociopaths playing SoT. But this does not mean that all PvPers are Sociopaths. I PvP some days and other days I collect Treasure and give it away like candy. That's the great thing about this game, the freedom to choose your own course of action.

  • TruthfulList56
    Insider

    I've always felt that people target sloops more often than not. Most just see it as an easy target (4v1) and some free loot. Can't take on the same size ship so they pick on the little guy.
    Someone in my crew started soloing brigs instead of sloops specifically because of this...

  • Ghostpaw
    Legend

    @truthfullist56 Weird. My experience has been sloops are more aggressive than the larger ships. When I’m slooping, the other sloops tend to turn in my direction while most larger ships go on about whatever they are doing. Then again, I know how to keep my distance. I’m also more aggressive in my sloop. When I am in larger crews, we tend to have goals (money, Athena, etc.) that combat is not going to help us achieve. When we have a new player on board, they often mistake the sloops as easy prey. Eventually experience teaches them the smaller ships have advantages.

  • Rock WRX
    Master
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    @truthfullist56 said in Brand new to this game. Lots of fun but lots of frustration:

    I've always felt that people target sloops more often than not. Most just see it as an easy target (4v1) and some free loot. Can't take on the same size ship so they pick on the little guy.
    Someone in my crew started soloing brigs instead of sloops specifically because of this...

    I suspect some Galleons may do this, but not all. Our crew will typically leave Sloops alone, unless they fire first. We may get a closer look to see if they have loot, even if we board and find its a solo, we patch em up and leave them alone

  • KiigelHeart
    Marauder

    Galleons rarely attack our sloop and if they do, it's usually a random crew & pretty easy to deal with unless we're short on supplies. Escaping is quite easy though.

  • The Clyff
    Marauder

    @sequiro No offense, but you only played this game for 2 days..

  • KattTruewalker
    Vanguard
    Insider
    Founder
    Deckhand

    @sequiro

    Ahoy there and welcome to the Sea of Thieves!

    It sounds like you've experienced encounters from both ends of the spectrum, keep sailing and you'll likely come across all the variations in between - no voyage is the same and outcomes are often determined by the choices you make on the seas.

    You've received some great advice, hints and tips in this thread from some very experienced pirates and you may also find the content of this thread useful -

    Guide for New Pirates

    As well as the guides and tips section of the forums.

    If you've encountered behaviour which breaches the Pirate Code or Xbox Live Code of Conduct then we have tools available to report this.
    Rare have a zero tolerance approach towards toxicity on the seas.

    How to Report a Player

  • Guepard4
    Captain
    Insider
    Founder

    Must be super funny to see you playing Black Ops 4 online saying to others "don't kill me I am new".

    Do yo imagine people in Fornite/PUBG/Lol/etc. saying "please don't kill me, I am new"? No? Then stop expecting that in Sea of Thieves.

  • Qui3tCool
    Master
    Insider

    @sequiro welcome to the forums and the sea!

    I am glad that you got a chance to have a good experience on the sea. It can be very fun and memorable sailing on the Sea of Thieves. However, as you experienced it can also be some of the worse experiences in a video game when you encounter other players. It even overflows into the forums.

    As you experienced sailing and see here, some pirares can make both the sea and forums a foul place to be. Sadly it can be more common than not. You will hear lots of comments like "get good", "this is a pirate game", "this is the Sea of Thieves not the "Sea of Thieves", "go play something else". It all comes from a loud, often obnoxious, even bullying crowd that covet PvP and want this game to be only PvP all the time.

    The game can be very fun. You can have great voyages and make cool stories of your own to tell. However, you are going to have to deal with the bullying, toxicity, and trolling that can dominate the sea more often than not. Rare is taking the game more in the direction to be highly in favor of a lot more PvP instead of it only being a possible option in an open world that was supposed to be full of choices. If you like the good experience you had, I suggest you keep sailing, stay strong, and navigate yourself through all the bad.

    You will find better and other like minded pirates are out there. If you can keep sailing pass the worse this game seems to attract, you will find brighter horizons to sail towards. As you play you can also sail towards sinking these type of players. Just be prepared because these players will get worse because they are always sore losers. Better to sink them then let them sink your enjoyment of the game.

    Hope the sea treats you better mate in the voyages ahead. Keep sailing and help make the sea a better place to sail. Cheers!

  • Ghostpaw
    Legend

    @x-crowheart-x said in Brand new to this game. Lots of fun but lots of frustration:

    As you experienced sailing and see here, some pirares can make both the sea and forums a foul place to be. Sadly it can be more common than not. You will hear lots of comments like "get good", "this is a pirate game", "this is the Sea of Thieves not the "Sea of Thieves", "go play something else". It all comes from a loud, often obnoxious, even bullying crowd that covet PvP and want this game to be only PvP all the time.

    That’s a mighty broad brush you are using. I see you selected a deep shade of hyperbole as the base coat.

  • Khompewtur
    Insider

    @x-crowheart-x said in Brand new to this game. Lots of fun but lots of frustration:

    As you experienced sailing and see here, some pirares can make both the sea and forums a foul place to be. Sadly it can be more common than not. You will hear lots of comments like "get good", "this is a pirate game", "this is the Sea of Thieves not the "Sea of Thieves", "go play something else". It all comes from a loud, often obnoxious, even bullying crowd that covet PvP and want this game to be only PvP all the time.

    The game can be very fun. You can have great voyages and make cool stories of your own to tell. However, you are going to have to deal with the bullying, toxicity, and trolling that can dominate the sea more often than not. Rare is taking the game more in the direction to be highly in favor of a lot more PvP instead of it only being a possible option in an open world that was supposed to be full of choices. If you like the good experience you had, I suggest you keep sailing, stay strong, and navigate yourself through all the bad.

    Omg, x-crowheart is an awesome writer.

    Amen crowheart!

  • Qui3tCool
    Master
    Insider

    @ghostpaw said in Brand new to this game. Lots of fun but lots of frustration:

    @x-crowheart-x said in Brand new to this game. Lots of fun but lots of frustration:

    As you experienced sailing and see here, some pirares can make both the sea and forums a foul place to be. Sadly it can be more common than not. You will hear lots of comments like "get good", "this is a pirate game", "this is the Sea of Thieves not the "Sea of Thieves", "go play something else". It all comes from a loud, often obnoxious, even bullying crowd that covet PvP and want this game to be only PvP all the time.

    That’s a mighty broad brush you are using. I see you selected a deep shade of hyperbole as the base coat.

    No abstract art here. The truth is it's own canvas of realism.

  • jApollo 93
    Marauder
    Insider

    One thing to keep in mind.

    Alliances give you a 50% share of another crews loot and xp from things they sell. It's a beneficial situation to be in, as you can earn nice gold and rep from other people doing as you want to, just playing the game away from people.

  • Dr Deadlock
    Master

    Oh boy, you had an eventful start to the game.
    Don’t fret, just keep playing with your friend. I’d stick to sloops until you two know your way around a ship. When you gained a bit of experience try the Brigantine - two people can sail on her just fine, you get a third mate who maybe can help you out and if that third person turns out to be a pain in your butt you can lock him in the brig (takes two votes).

    When I first played on launch day two dudes immediately attacked me, chased me across the outpost. I got shot, stabbed, sunken and eaten by sharks many times. My first few days were a bit overwhelming with mechanics to learn and attackers to fend off but now I am a seasoned sailor and can take down a Brigantine by myself if Lady Fortune smiles on me that day. What I mean to say is don’t let anyone bring you down.

  • Sequiro
    Sailor

    @guepard4 BlackOps 4 Blackouts ENTIRE SOLE point is kill other players thats the entire game. Sea of Thieves is marketed as a multifaceted game, its why we were convinced to get it, it is to be something different to add to rotation of games we are playing. It gave the impression that PVP as just one aspect of this game. There is far more to this game than just an all out PVP brawl like in BlackOps.

    Anyways played solo last night since my friend wasn't on. Never encountered another player last night. I did encounter the Kraken twice last night first time that was crazy. I tried to tell him I was new and not to attack me but he hentai'd me and still sunk my ship twice. Did find some nice score of treasure on Devil's ridge.

  • bababooey
    Master
    Insider
    Founder

    Lol you just missed the talk about this in another thread the last day or two and all the other similar threads from the past(I know your new). The thing is these posts have become a daily thing and it seems the issue tends to lie with the sloop and of course the toxic community of players that you’ll,m unfortunately find throughout, be careful though, by posting your subjecting the community to also tell you, this is how the game is, you suck get better, it’s because your new, you should play with more people or let me give you pointers because it’s assumed your garbage(I know your new, but I’m not), get a PC, go into party chat if you don’t want to hear, mute them(easier said than done). The point with all that is you have experienced players like myself who will just tell you to hang in there, changes are coming, if there done right will, hopefully improve on your experience the next go around, whether you choose to use a sloop or not, after all this is suppose to be a game in, which you can play how you want too, that means you should be able to use a sloop and not have to put up with all that bs....

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