Something needs to be changed or people will leave.

I'm going to bring up an example of something similar from another game. Overwatch.

Whenever it first came out and people played it the biggest thing I heard everywhere in the community was "Nerf Hanzos spirit dragons! They're too big and kill everyone way too easily! And go through walls! And etc..."

Guess which ultimate wasn't changed and barely ever gets kills now? That's right, the spirit dragons.

A couple weeks of playing and people now hear "ryu" and are already scattering to the wind. People learned how to play and counter.

@savagetwinky not asking them to become Runescape I'm asking them to implement their own Combat safe system and to be a Difference than Runescape, but their own style, even take minecraft, it had its pvp and non pvp servers and millions played that and all you did was build blocks.

@jmgoodog11 what would the actual point be in a player unsafe zone... No one would go to it.

tc's requests, if adopted across the board, would kill this game faster than a pig with no bananas. not that i don't agree that options should be available for players. rent-a-servers still seem like the best options to me, where mods could kick griefers, adjust player loads, restrict to galleon or sloop only, etc.

It's never been advertised as a solo game and even when you pick solo on the menu the game tells you it's the hardest mode to play... I play solo all the time for fun and all you need to do to avoid people is literally just look around.

Please advise. So then I need to run around all the time within 15 min killed once starting the game and then killed again respawn by four that were experence and have much better weapons.
Again how is it fair if I get killed all the time
And yes on the box says can play a. Single or multi that is adverting to me

The game was always developed to be both PvP and pve simultaneously. An open world where you play how you choose. But much like life you have options. If someone is hounding you do you sit there and take it? give them what they Want? Fight back?

How do I fight back when they are shooting me like sniping from on their ship as I run away I have a sword and a pistol

What's better is that they don't have any advantage over you besides maybe numbers but that can be mitigated by wit and personal skill depending on the opponent.

But they have a advantage over me 4 is a adnavtage over one.

There will be times you get outplayed by a better crew, but majority of people complaining about it right now aren't simply getting outplayed, they're ALLOWING themselves to be outplayed. Learn to be observant and keep looking around at all times and this game becomes a breeze even for solo.
But if I get killed every 20 min then how do I grow as I loose everything ands this assumes
I have lots of time to play game if I squeeze 30 min a day I am lucky
Yes I get it this game is not for me
And I agree it is for you and others who like is
But
But
There are a percentage like me say 5 to 30% who would like some pve pirate game. Again maybe another company will read this and make their own.
Again not trying to argue but been playing since 2600 days so not a newbie playing video games in general
Sadly this is like Eve a game I could like but again not for me
But hope you have fun playing and sink a gallon for me

@durablewinner67 people would have to cross unsafe Zones to get loot, they would also have to sail through unsafe zones to get back to an outpost. I would say a Small circle around every island is a safeZone. once you reach it people will not be able to attack you anymore, if you cross the middle of the map it is PVE, if you go north or south it's pvp one on one, better loot North so people will stick to the north and try to cut people off before they can reach/cross the zones to be safe.

@mr-logboy you have the same options as everyone else there is a box on the ship where you trade your weapons for what you prefer and if they sniped you well I'd say that's one hell of a shot

@jmgoodog11 okay so you are still migrating everyone to an unsafe area what is the true difference between. Everyone still is in an unsafe area except for unloading

@durablewinner67 well I. One of the stores I was in I though you could by a rifle with like a spy glass on it for like 5000 gold. I started with zero gold so if 4 had that I was done for
And I saw that box but only had me sword and pistol
Again all three times I was killed died with one shot pretty much as banana only recovered like 60% and with 4 after me no chAnce heck in some games they give you a break l
Till a level and you have some similar weapons . I felt like a wooden spoon against a knife was no match
Unless us sink me one ship which is stupid just so I won’t be attacked (another told me this today this )

@mr-logboy you have the same weapons as everyone else that stuff you buy is only cosmetic. Are you looking at the wrong box cause the weapon box has the sword, blunderbuss, pistol, and sniper rifle. The box below is a ammo box.

@jmgoodog11 Sloops can escape galleons, sail against the wind, manoeuveur.. you can out run them if you sail well. Also check out my suggestion for a new PvP faction, I thought it up to try to dissuade this sort of gameplay and encourage healthier PvP. I don't like the idea of separating PvE and PvP, PvP is a core part of the game, but this might be an idea for a solution:

https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/49649/new-faction-combat-pvp

@durablewinner67 said in Something needs to be changed or people will leave.:

@mr-logboy you have the same weapons as everyone else that stuff you buy is only cosmetic. Are you looking at the wrong box cause the weapon box has the sword, blunderbuss, pistol, and sniper rifle. The box below is a ammo box.

Oh really I tried to get it and would not let me
Wow cool thanks will try again.
I love using sniper but could not
That might make a difference thanks but still
1v1 would be better the 4v1
That part still not fair

@angrycoconut16 said in Something needs to be changed or people will leave.:

@jmgoodog11 Sloops can escape galleons, sail against the wind, manoeuveur.. you can out run them if you sail well. Also check out my suggestion for a new PvP faction, I thought it up to try to dissuade this sort of gameplay and encourage healthier PvP. I don't like the idea of separating PvE and PvP, PvP is a core part of the game, but this might be an idea for a solution:

https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/49649/new-faction-combat-pvp

The issue is inland lol a gallon attacked me in dock with cannons and guns can’t outrun it there

@mr-logboy That's the risk you take when you solo on a sloop, leaving your ship.. it happens, you can't expect never to be sunk, it has happened to me too, but many times it also hasn't... it's just one of those things.

@mr-logboy I mentioned numbers as their sole advantage.

They have the same weapons you do. Go to your armory and pick the ones you want.

If they're spawn camping you, scuttle, respawn, and leave them in your wake. That's in your power to do and you can find the option in the crew section of your options menu.

The game tells you you can play solo or with a group, we've established that. It also means it's advertised to play in a group too. But for someone who's been playing games since the 2600 console you sure did gleen over that section when you're picking to go solo, in the actual game menu, that tells you it's the most perilous option, or the hardest option.

Again I don’t want to change the game for others that love it I just wish I could love it too. To be a bit more fair
I will wait a bit and a couple of updates before try again.

For the complainers...

I have sunk 4 man Gallies while I'm solo on the sloop. I have robbed, pillaged, and disgraced much more than I have been a victim. If you want to play helpless and say that you get overwhelmed with treachery you may not be equipped with the skills it takes to be a scurvy dog of the high seas. Defend yourself better, evade better, outsmart better, plot better. What I think I am saying to you is YOU NEED TO PIRATE THE F*** UP! These people you complain about are doing what some of us do very well, be pirates. I am not ashamed of my actions, and I WILL rob you if given the chance.

@crash4654 said in Something needs to be changed or people will leave.:

@mr-logboy I mentioned numbers as their sole advantage.

They have the same weapons you do. Go to your armory and pick the ones you want.

If they're spawn camping you, scuttle, respawn, and leave them in your wake. That's in your power to do and you can find the option in the crew section of your options menu.

The game tells you you can play solo or with a group, we've established that. It also means it's advertised to play in a group too. But for someone who's been playing games since the 2600 console you sure did gleen over that section when you're picking to go solo, in the actual game menu, that tells you it's the most perilous option, or the hardest option.

Before you start the game it does not say this is the hardest
Never have I played a game that has said solo is harder. Now I have come across them and said this not for me.
Again if on the box is said solo should be never done it will be hard then you would not see me here.
Also I like slow pases game where I can explore a island for a hour. Again they do advertise to explore and have adventure but if your solo on shore that is much harder than at sea. Yes sloop can outrun but not on land .
Again I already k so this game is not for me but what I took from the advertising and what you did is different and ok.
I am sure if it was PvP and there was aspect where you could not attack anyone for any reason you would be upset . Again. Or the same but kind of at the same time
Not trying to fight just giving an opinion of the hell i went trough.
And the weapons it would not let me take the sniper
Don’t know why and will try again but tried for 5 min to sell the the scope
Of I had the scope might have made a different
And also scheduling the ship should never be a fair answer for single player how is that fair
And yes I understand life is not fair but a game I buy should be and most have been so far that I have willing wanted to buy

@mr-logboy you can't sell your weapons they are set. Right bumper to switch tabs to each weapon while at the box and you can only care two weapon types at a time. E

@jmgoodog11 dude what? I would have quit after an hour of not getting my way that was a waste of time

This is a lost cause. I'm already gone, and recommend you to do the same. None of my friends renewed their gamepass for the same reason.

"This game is not for you" they say... At this rate not even they will get to play it. We all know how quick Microsoft is to pull the plug from something if it doesn't work as they want, and as soon as they realize that only a very small group of players are playing the game, goodbye Sea of Thieves forever.

People really don't realize that this game is a SERVICE expected to run for a long time out of microtransactions, and for that to work the need a playerbase as big as possible. But then again, it seems like the developers are completely out of touch as well by the actual changes they are trying to implement (death cost, 4 man sloop...)

My best advice is uninstall, log off this forum, and play something better because this game is a lost cause, and so is this forum, or you'll go crazy. They don't want us friendly players, they don't want us peaceful players.

@angrycoconut16 said in Something needs to be changed or people will leave.:

@mr-logboy That's the risk you take when you solo on a sloop, leaving your ship.. it happens, you can't expect never to be sunk, it has happened to me too, but many times it also hasn't... it's just one of those things.

That happens is a hard core PvP which is not what I want.
This PvP vs pve is like comparing a apple to a orange
Yes they are different and all my components Are directed to any companies/ developers listening.
Everything you say is correct but not the game I want.
I don’t want to ply for 15 minutes and then fight for a hour defending myself and then if i win the try revenge and could go on
I want a orange and this game left alone
It is only a name of call it Sea if pansies
I don’t care the name and I am sure lots will love the name (PvP lovers I bet you will)
In the ads is say you can explore and have fun and fight but yes I assume at my choice
I have been in PvP games where both sides have to accept before fight and on another server was free for all.
I just think I was mislead a little
Yes I assumed but was partially led that way.
And I did. Or think I would be attacked multi time when respawn by same groups and only solution it to sink my ship
Again all this leave me to believe they want to say solo is Hardee’s and should only be done after playing game for a bit
Again if it said that on front of box
All PvP players would have stilled played and all these pve people bugging you would not have been here
As long as all of you know we are all going around in circles . You say what PvP is and how solo is ok and etc ( all the good stuff)
And I am just giving my experence and how the first 20 minutes was.
I am sorry if it big you but that is not my definition of fun and new what was on the selection screen ( gallon or sloop, multi vs solo) on the box
Yes I am sure there are stories and reviews out there but sometime I rely on companies telling me stuff
Guesss I messed up trusting them

@crash4654 the ak74u in black ops was o.p. then they nerfed it and people began adapting their style now if you play with the ak74u in black ops its trash and jumpy as s**t.

@greencamillion1 only noobs use anchors

@mr-logboy I'm sorry but you can't rely on anyone to convey a point of a gameon matter of preference and it's like you said apples to oranges. But in the world of the internet and games it's more like..... Apples, oranges, grapes, bananas, peaches, and that one guy that only eats meat..... Lol. No matter how you explain or look at something there are always misunderstandings. I would suggest getting on mixer and watch people play the game before you dish out ur money. So you know what your getting and whether or not to get it. It's not misleading if you watch someone play it

@mr-logboy but it does tell you all these things... it's literally in the menu when you pick to set sail solo "a more perilous journey" do you know what perilous means? It means dangerous... it means hard...

@mr-logboy you also want to get familiar with the map. Every time you die remember where you died every time you enter storm remember that s****y island. Every time something happens that you don't like remember it and every time you go to a nice tropical relaxed Caribbean island remember it. Remember the shape by title learn to associate the two. And then you'll have a more visual understanding of where the danger is and where it isn't typically. I know crooked masts is s**t. It's always stormy it's always rainy, it's always dark, always filled with snaked and rocks in the ocean making a getaway impossible and shooting you from outside easy. Also learn where loot spawns on islands. I always try and load my crow's nest up with gunpowder barrels but remember when in a storm to take them down or lightning will blow ur stash up. Just keep playing and you'll get an understanding better and my gamer-tag is (Ninja h 003) with no spaces between. The key is playing with an even number of players 2 on a sloop is powerful and 4 on a galleon is too but 1 and 3 are obviously substantially weaker

@angrycoconut16 sloops can escape galleons like rabbits can escape cats. There is a possibility but the food chain works so big fish feed on small fish

@savagetwinky its true this game is all about learning through failure