Weapon Swap Speed in Sea of Thieves

Probably won't happen, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't.

They are so overwhelmed with bug fixing, performance issues, and the cheating/toxicity feedback that I just don't see it happening.

Part of the feedback groups want the combat to be less "sweaty" so that numbers rule instead of individual performance. As well as people that want things they don't like nerfed. That being a big one.

Some really skilled players still play at a very high and quick level of pvp. So there are still people that think others are exploiting/cheating just because they faced one of the higher skilled players in the game.

A lot of things working against intentional fluid combat in sea of thieves.

Yes, but I don’t think that speeding up weapon swapping is something difficult to add to the game.

@mslechtic15 said in Weapon Swap Speed in Sea of Thieves:

Yes, but I don’t think that speeding up weapon swapping is something difficult to add to the game.

Any change means testing, and it means more chances of exploits being created/discovered. It opens up more bugs.

Time, resources, and the reality of SoT is a lot of changes have made game or big picture combat significantly worse. There is risk there as well. Making it worse is kinda the only consistency combat has seen in SoT.

I don't think it's a bad idea but tinkering with combat has really only worked out for players that want stuff nerfed or want bigger crews buffed up in pvp. These changes have not been kind in organic/defense pvp, underdog pvp, challenging pvp. There is a lot on the line for new changes to combat.

That’s why I’m saying it should be changed… The main reason people cheat is because they feel like they’re fighting against the developers. They’re frustrated that the old, good Sea of Thieves is gone—quick swapping, Arena, and so on. It annoys them that the game hasn’t really progressed, but instead, unnecessary things have been removed, and new mechanics have been added just to cater to new players. In every game, there are always worse and better players.

Cheater use cheat for many reason, is put hand in your eyes to believes it's because they just bad.
Sure majority are bad, but somes other do boosting player or just want to make fun of ruining experiment of legit player.
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Dommage is done & player suffer then leave. Why is at t he legit player to report that if he know he will lost more time to do a video+ a ticket versus a cheater a new email.

For back to main sujet i agree a bit with the OG, is not a problem to put somes delay on the two tap, but why Rare add a totaly cancel if you doing to fast ?
U cant tell at one guys who played so many hours to adapt, just by memory muscle he will do it by instint. And if he force himself to learn he will lost mind doing it.
Is a suffering need for enjoy game ? Is more easy to forgot the game & found another.
Like just keeping the old swap keyboard but put a delay ingame for the swap weapon without handicap the player doing fast. Because that was realy good and rewarded to doing it the more fast u can.

hf all & soz for my ENGL

Ps : moderator u put anchor on my other post for 2 name but that was so many other thing i speaked about, like weapon & bug + i dont found normal is at me to make ticket for keep game safe, is the job to somebody when i payed game, but sorry for mentioned name)>.

nobody call you to dont, we all agree to that ! personaly i just want Rare do it better, because cheater dont have real punishement instead of remake a account with a new email.
new quickswap then ?

@look-behind-you Cheating is wrong, but we need to ask ourselves why most people do it. When the old Sea of Thieves was around, there weren’t as many cheaters—now it’s getting worse and worse.

@look-behind-you is word cheater make you see red or ? OG post is about weapon & maybe get a new/rework quickswap... i give up

@mslechtic15 said in Weapon Swap Speed in Sea of Thieves:

That’s why I’m saying it should be changed… The main reason people cheat is because they feel like they’re fighting against the developers. They’re frustrated that the old, good Sea of Thieves is gone—quick swapping, Arena, and so on. It annoys them that the game hasn’t really progressed, but instead, unnecessary things have been removed, and new mechanics have been added just to cater to new players. In every game, there are always worse and better players.

This isn't directed towards you, I just wanted to comment on cheaters who claim to be doing it for "reasons". I've run into a couple people like this in HG, cheaters tend to run their mouths and spam offensive nonsense in an attempt to get attention, I guess, but occasionally some of them use their words; I've had some informal "interviews" with some of these donkeys, and I've heard the "Rare did this thing I don't like and now I'm a freedom cheater". I find that to be the most pathetic excuse. This is just a video game, anyone revenge cheating or whatever has got to get a life.

@mslechtic15 said in Weapon Swap Speed in Sea of Thieves:

@look-behind-you Cheating is wrong, but we need to ask ourselves why most people do it. When the old Sea of Thieves was around, there weren’t as many cheaters—now it’s getting worse and worse.

Cheating in video games is pathetic, simple as that. Cheaters are degenerates and they're likely total trash without their crutch.

@thorumsu Yes, but I mean it more like this—if the devs considered everyone and tried to balance players’ demands properly while actually doing something, there wouldn’t be as many cheaters. The developers aren’t doing anything, nothing has changed in the game, and it’s dying. It’s not the players or cheaters who are to blame, but unfortunately, the creators themselves.

@look-behind-you said:

The main reason people cheat is because they are bad at games but their ego won't allow them to admit it.

I find this to be a very surface level thought.

Players cheat because it's fun. Some do it to grief others and are malicious. A lot just use FoV and stop at that. Others use skin changers or PAK for resources and that's that, list goes on.

I also have to disagree that cheaters are automatically bad players skill wise.
I've known and seen some really good players that have unfortunately turned to cheats later on before perma quitting the game as a final goodbye.

There still better then the vast majority of players that plays this game before their cheating escapade.
Cheating is VERY VERY common in this game due to it's lackluster anti-cheat.

ESP was massive back in the day before Gummy stopped updates, to give you an example of how big it was, ESP had 20k + downloads in mere days of a new udpate.
Steam has less then 6k average monthly players to put that into comparison.... OH and that was before RARE hinted at EAC coming in the game...
Imagine having 20,000 players cheating using ESP, that's a single cheating software by the way out of the many...

Yet RARE were in hard Cope/Denial gaslighting competitive players that were spotlighting the cheating issue long before Hourglass came out and they could no longer deny it... Hence the EAC announcement...

Players turned too cheats to when they saw how RARE was acting and lying. Oh and also killing Arena bred people turning to cheats, although most honestly just quit and never looked back...

@look-behind-you said

Those who then resorted to cheating just to maintain their perceived 'goodness' are the same people who complain about getting banned for "no reason".

[mod removed] That wasn't just a petty perma ban from the Sea of Thieves either, that was a Microsoft ban, meaning players family's on Microsoft accounts that had NOTHING to do with the game were banned from Microsoft services...

That bred a lot of cheaters out of spite from that.

There's a lot more examples of unjustly false bans.
If the game doesn't even have a robust anti cheat I can bet the support team also doesn't have a robust detection system
The two go hand in hand...

I can back what @Veronik5682 said before the mod edit.

Players got unjustly redbearded it's been proven many times over in many cases over the years.

Former Comp player and have a friend that was caught in the cross fire of what was mentioned in the mod edit.

Edit: If there was no anti-cheat, then support had to rely on Un-deniable hard proof that someone was cheating to be given a Redbeard. Via footage, so players were and still are the main anti-cheat of the game in all honesty..

But look at the spectrum here, if a mod is having a bad day and doesn't know the game to it's full extent they could be fooled that someone was cheating when they weren't, hence a false Redbeard is issued.
Such as clone Gamertag with an 'I' instead of a 'l'.

@hiradc No, new players don’t keep the numbers up. The game is dying. If experienced and long-time players who left the game because the developers are doing nothing but making the game worse were still playing, the game would be in a completely different place.

@veronik5682 I completely agree.

I think we all share the same opinion that the game is dying, and if RARE doesn’t do something about it, the game will completely end… We need to get all the OG players back into the game – we need to bring back the glory this game once had

@look-behind-you

Implying that I am having a 'bad day' because I am simply following the Forum Rules is certainly a take.

When did I ever say you were having a bad day?
Re-read what I typed out.
It's like you read out the first 5 words and automatically jumped and assumed I was typing about you when not at all? You're not even in the discussion at all outside of the censoring part.
Also I was backing what the other person originally said in past tense, so linking a report link in this context is odd...

@MSlechtic15

We need to get all the OG players back into the game – we need to bring back the glory this game once had

I don't see it happening at all, the game would need not only drastic changes but make that work to. There's no reason to think that, they are set on their path with S15/S16 and so on... There's no going back, literally.

@ix-indi-xi I think that if the whole Sot community united, it’s possible.

you mean after send 10 000 footage of cheater we need to contact support because we cant tell we tired on forum ? What a joke.
like indi tell is playerbase the official anti cheat here. And it's useless when is fresh account cheaters because they just do a new adresse mail and can cheat again on SoT. This should not be the case !!!
And we all hope Rare work on something for fixing this issue. FAST. Because we all want the game we play stay in love for all.
Waiting that, enjoy new machine gun from thoses $$$$$ infortunaly.

I will stop answer here because the way the sujet is going & oriented (by modo????) is like promote cheater instead of speaking of a real new/old change for quickswap.