Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!
@knifelife seems like they have a plan, that’s all that matters. It will be addressed that’s all I could ask for.
Well, those are good news, but I think we need to wait to the conbat tweaks. Because it could make the PVP easier for you XBOX players, and maybe after those changes you aren't in such disadvantage as before. I'm saying this because if optional crossplay happens, as the PC player base is not that high as the xbox player base, that would cause PC players would have emptier servers.
@eggamer13 That’s why I hope it’s optional input, it will be a travesty if they unnecessarily segregate by platform.
Also bare in mind, months ago they said the Pc playerbase was roughly 15% they also said just after launch they had 5 million log ins.
And that’s not even counting the continue growth we have seen and the massive surge of players from the streamers. :)
And also how the server matchmaking works.
@TheUnionJames Agreed, I’ve been a massive advocate for crossplay since before launch. And I’ve been sick of it, so for better or worse I’m glad a conversation between the developers is finally being started.
@himwhoeatstime there not ending cross-play it's most like optional or at least input device server km one and controller on other cross-play is going nowhere
@natiredgals So, I can't play with my friends unless they have a keyboard on the XBox? That's just as absurd and would result in the same ending of cross play for me, in the end.
Or do we want it to go only one way? XBox gamers can be in PC sessions but not the other way around? Why did I pay 60 bucks to be a second class citizen to have access to servers much less populated than they should be.
@himwhoeatstime Yeah don’t worry, that will never happen.
If they have any sense they will add optional input based matchmaking like Fortnite. No segregation just a chance to play with people using the same input device if they so choose.
However even that I’m not holding my breath, they will probably just use the double gun nerf as an excuse for balance so don’t fret yet.
@himwhoeatstime again not true its called a option you can play with all inputs or you can play with only one option its up to you hincs optional youll never be forced to do anything you're worrying about nothing.
@natiredgals If Xbox players have the option, what do you suppose most people will do? It's not my option to have a full sea. I have none. My seas will be empty.
@himwhoeatstime honestly most will not change it and if they do then you come up with another solution cause the only reason there changing is because they feel disadvantaged. True is if all crossplay is default most won't change it
@natiredgals That's very true. I honestly think this is much ado about nothing. I've met all of 3 PC players in my random travels, not using any external community tools. The people whining are most likely getting killed and trolled by toxic XBox kids playing on their game-pass, rather than PC players who have to (typically) pay $60 bucks.
@himwhoeatstime The way the server matchmaking works anyway it shouldn’t matter how many people are playing.
Even if there was only 50 people playing the game you would still be put into a full server or merged into one.
I can assure you, your fears will not come into fruition. :)
Also that last comment is just wrong on so many levels. Talk about full on stereotyping.
@knifelife Queue size varies widely by time and region. There are servers spread all around the world and it's not quite valid to assume a well populated queue at all times for all regions, at least for PC players. The population of which is far less than you might think.
The danger is very real, I assure you. I've play plenty of online games on PC that struggled to fill games with players and which caused long queue times and much waiting around in the lobby.
I agree that they're not going to risk it and any 'solution' will be acceptable to me. However, the 'solutions' suggested in this thread are not going to work. The only valid solutions are in balancing combat itself or in mouse+keyboard support for consoles. I expect this is their 'crossplay' fix that will be discussed in the next video.
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I agree that they're not going to risk it and any 'solution' will be acceptable to me. However, the 'solutions' suggested in this thread are not going to work. The only valid solutions are in balancing combat itself or in mouse+keyboard support for consoles. I expect this is their 'crossplay' fix that will be discussed in the next video.
Exactly. Some people on other threads think that players against stopping crossplay are against "stopping the crossplay", and thats not entirely true in some cases. But the "solutions" and "feedback" of this weeks are being terrible at least...
@needsmokes your comment is wrong on so many levels and I'm shocked that you got upvotes from members of this community that I respect. A massive "shut up" to "all PC players"? A discussion-stifling generalization, much? I am one of many PC players that wants a fair playing field, and wants to have a good discussion about how to implement it best! So when you see me using type chat on the seas, are you going to "grief" me on principle?
@himwhoeatstime That’s true, I will be the first to admit I don’t know the first thing about the technicalities of server management and matchmaking.
I just know how they sold the idea to usbof how they should work in an ideal world.
But that’s never normally the case.Either way I’m sure there skepticism on both sides of the debate for what Wednesday will bring, but until then none of us will no.
I suppose the one thing we can all probably agree on and celebrate is Hopfully this issue will finally get put to rest and the community can move on to brighter pastures! :)
@needsmokes said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:
Great to know they know there is a problem with it!
And a massive shut up to ALL YOU PC PLAYERS that thought you were good and claimed we were just being salty!
Can't wait for the day when we have total parity and i see somebody out on the seas typing in the chat.. Oh am i gonna grief you!!
So when this 4.5% advantage is addressed what will the next complaint be?
@himwhoeatstime don't agree with me having to use a keyboard to feel balanced so i look forward to seeing what they have planned. Hope it's optional or at least input device related
@natiredgals Yeah agree there, if anything that would make the controller issues more prevalent as those who decide to stick with them will bump into more of them lol.
Also I had a little look at MS’s Official Razor K&M, you can get it for the small small price of $250 xD
I honestly think you both overestimate how much of an advantage keyboard is. Bad players are bad players, good players are good players. The advantage of accurate aiming benefits good players more than bad ones. I'm bad at shooting accurately because I have not played shooter type games. The keyboard+mouse only provides me an advantage in turning speed, really.
There will always be someone better out there, and inevitably you will get rolled by them and feel helpless to compete. Some people are just that much better and it doesn't require a mouse+keyboard, I assure you.
My hope is that Rare will say something along the lines of, "we're not going to enable optional cross play at this time but we feel that the combat changes coming in February 6th's update will help level the playing field." If the statistics are correct about only 15% of the player base being PC players then doesn't that mean a majority of the time Xbox players are in fact fighting other Xbox players?
I think when someone gets bested their first response is to look at how the other player has an advantage rather than what they could do to improve their own advantage. Keep in mind I'm NOT using the word advantage in place of cheating I'm simply saying that if someone dies they might think, "well I was strafing! How did that guy kill me?! He must be a PC player with professional grade aim!" When in reality maybe that player wasn't strafing well enough or they bumped into something, the opposing crew had a 2nd player that they weren't aware of, or maybe that other player just has really good aim on an Xbox controller!
My crew is mostly comprised of Xbox players. We go up against all sorts of players and my crew doesn't seem to have a problem. No ones perfect and my crew definitely has our fair share of our own sunken ships but we always look at what we did and what we can do to prevent something like that from happening in the future. I think we've made huge strides together as a crew and I think more importantly we've become better players because of it.
@himwhoeatstime Well either way I suppose if we do get some form of crossplay when players do get defeated we will no that it’s down to skill and not input device.
Personally Im just going to wait until Wednesday, but I’m still very pessimistic about it all yet.
Only time will tell :)@needsmokes said in Crossplay getting addressed next dev update!:
Great to know they know there is a problem with it!
And a massive shut up to ALL YOU PC PLAYERS that thought you were good and claimed we were just being salty!
Can't wait for the day when we have total parity and i see somebody out on the seas typing in the chat.. Oh am i gonna grief you!!
Ahoy there, the exact wording of the tweet is:
Will discuss this topic in Wednesday's dev update. Been having lots of internal discussions on it.
It sounds very much that Joe is likely to share thoughts around this topic, whether they are for/against/going to change anything, we have no idea yet. What Rare are doing is addressing the topic which has been much debated within the Community.
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This is basically what I think is going to happen, I will be shocked if it is anything different to be honest.
But I’m trying not to cast to much judgement as I have been proven wrong and been surprised by Rare before.
@eggamer13 you will never have empty servers. Maybe less servers active, you will need not sense any different in population.
@knifelife Absolutely, they do seem to hide surprises up their sleeves every once in a while. I fully get wanting to have a level playing field and I do feel for the people that feel like they're at a huge disadvantage playing against PC players. I myself am a PC player and I'd LOVE for Sea of Thieves to be as equal as possible. I don't want to win an engagement with another crew because I have "better equipment" than them, I want to win because my crew and I worked for it, practiced, honed our skills, and earned that victory fairly!
My first and foremost concern is splitting up the community. I don't want to see 78% (making up numbers here) of the 85% of the Xbox players only play with Xbox players while the other 22% of us are left in our own "smaller community." We're one community and I strongly believe we should stay that way. Hopefully these combat changes will keep it that way. I suppose we'll see on Wednesday :)
@himwhoeatstime that maybe but sitting on a couch with mk isn't comfortable for me. Also look at it from my POV im gonna have to tell you to use a controller. It's just not right.
@marsmayflower I think we used to actually have aim assist in the beta and it got removed as it was ruining the experience. It litrally took over all control you had with the sword and you couldn’t change targets 😂
