@sweltering-nick I know but I've had an Xbox since 2010 and have a lot of friends on here. I also really like using a controller.
I am done with this game until changes are made
@oatter said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
I just spent the last 3 hours fighting off 2 sloops at a skull fort event because every time we sank them they'd just spawn at the next outpost over (about 2 islands away) with fresh supplies and continue contesting. We sank both sloops a total of at least 15 times until we ran out of supplies and had to scuttle the galleon at which point I just gave up. There needs to be some serious changes made to the spawn mechanics of this game before I decide to play it again and the ability to play on an Xbox only server. I'm tired of having to fight against players that have such a huge advantage over us console players. I don't want aim-assist or any of that c**p, just the ability to play on an even field which I don't think is too much to ask for.
You could just lug a mouse and keyboard into the xbox and your on an even playing field.
But yeah it is way easy to do this. I was fighting a fort solo when a galleon showed up. I said repeatedly over the mic that we should clear it together. I even took out the cannons as they sailed up so they wouldn't get sunk. Then they jumped out an shot me. I re-spawned came over and said again guys i'm friendly its all good lets clear this out. Guess what . they shot me again.
Soooo I thought sod it i just kept sailing at them on suicide missions ramming there ship etc. Just became a real thorn in their side. Over and over i came to there ship shooting them ramming them whatever. While this was kinda fun getting a lil revenge it shows how easy it is to keep getting back to the fort with a fresh ship etc.
@oatter I never said they dont have an advantage once in this whole thread thats how i know you're not reading what im saying you just want what you think is gods word to be the only word. The advantage is there, but like i said literally 4 times already its very minimal in this game for the reasons i stated before 1.) Generous hitboxes on all guns except for the sniper 2.) The characters in the game have naturally bigger frames as to be able to hit them easier, its clear to me the first one is definately to make it easier for everyone to land their shots so most shots from everyone are landed not just from pc to even it out as much as possible. If you dont want to believe that then thats you're opinion and you're entitled to it. Ive heard from many people who feel the same as i do and im sure there will be some who feel as you do. The 60fps thing would hold more weight if this was a very fast paced combat game which it isnt unless you think 60fps does something different then what it actually does.
@lumpaywk That's exactly what happened to us for 3 hours. And I don't want to have to get an adapter to be able to be as good as other players, I like playing with a controller.
@oatter said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
@lumpaywk That's exactly what happened to us for 3 hours. And I don't want to have to get an adapter to be able to be as good as other players, I like playing with a controller.
You don't need an adapter the xbox has a usb port right there on the front lol. But if you like a controller it's no different to a pc player saying they like a controller. You cant say you want an even playing field but only if everyone else bends to my play style.
@oatter So you know when someone uses a mouse and keyboard ona console game on a console (keyword there ) they get the benefit of aim assist also right? Thats why the xim 4 adapter was a concern for bungie with the destiny 2 pc launch so people who played with mouse and keyboar didnt get the benefit from the controller aim assist too and they did stuff to make sure it wasnt possible.
@oatter the adapter youre thinking of is what people basically use to cheat on console games as i just kind of explained previously. Its called xim or something.
The reason this topic irritates me is because games having this feature( where it makes sense of course) is a big step for gaming id hate to see it be ruined because people are either misinformed or just get butthurt from dying. Its great to be able to play this game with my friends i usually dont play with because of our choice of platform.
@joeysav Any advantage a PC player has is still an advantage that I don't have as an Xbox player and is not something I should have to just deal with. Yes the hitboxes are bigger which does make it easier to hit other players but a M&Ker still has a much much easier time hitting shots at range than someone with a controller. Twice the framerate makes a difference in any game. Sure its not as terrible as it is in a game like PUBG on Xbox but it still makes a difference. You keep saying that I'll only believe what I believe and nothing will change my mind which is right on this subject but you're also doing the same thing. The only thing that I care about is that this issue raises more awareness and you're helping with that so thanks.
@lumpaywk As far I know you need an adapter with software like the XIM4 to be able to use M&K on console. Although I did hear that Microsoft may add keyboard support which I think would be cool so we can finally have text chat.
@oatter Everything that ive said to you on the subject ive given proof of why it isnt AS unfair as you're thinking it is. Im trying to get you to see that in my opinion you're making it seem much much worse then it is in reality. Ive watched my friend destroy the same 3 pc players at a skeleton fortress with me. The difference between this to me anyways is like if someone was playing with the regular xbox controller or the elite controller (because of the things i stated before about hitboxes. I hope it does raise awareness , that it isnt that big of a deal for this game.
@hyperblast4 For the most part I think the game's awesome. Already well worth the $60 and the controller I bought.
@joeysav You're right. Some PC players are terrible and easy to kill just like some console players.
@oatter You can get a keyboard that plugs into your controller its been out for a while now my son has it.
@joeysav It's a chat pad and my hands are too big for it. It's only useful for typing messages and whatnot. We don't have text chats in-game to communicate with other players in the game like you guys do, just quick responses like the ones in this game.
@oatter said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
@lumpaywk As far I know you need an adapter with software like the XIM4 to be able to use M&K on console. Although I did hear that Microsoft may add keyboard support which I think would be cool so we can finally have text chat.
ok so I thought i read that sot supported it but so far i'm guessing not. I know minecraft does and a few others. I will try tonight though as i was sure i read it somewhere but alas i think i was dreaming as i cant find anything on it now other than it was only half working in the beta.
@oatter I absolutely agree that the re-spawn needs to be a bit further away. I spent 7 1/2 hours total yesterday fighting for 2 skull forts. It was a bit ridiculous to have to keep sinking the same ship for 3 hours. Albeit, it was awesome having a massive battle between 4 total ships (4 1/2 hours long) to finish the skull fort though.
@oatter said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
@lumpaywk I really hope it doesn't come to FPS games, that would suck.
true. While i like the option, what i love about consoles is that i get to chill on my sofa in front of my tv. If i wanted to sit at a desk with mouse and keyboard i would just use my kids pc (its really mine but i don't use it, spend all day on a pc i don't wanna go home and do the same).
I know this kinda goes against what i just said but hay i am fickle lol. Just you cant really expect to be able to limit one set of players to match a second and vice versa.
@messerstescher said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
@oatter I absolutely agree that the re-spawn needs to be a bit further away. I spent 7 1/2 hours total yesterday fighting for 2 skull forts. It was a bit ridiculous to have to keep sinking the same ship for 3 hours. Albeit, it was awesome having a massive battle between 4 total ships (4 1/2 hours long) to finish the skull fort though.
A bit ridiculous is an understatement for me. I agree it's awesome to fight numerous ships at once though. Had a fight yesterday where we sunk 2 galleons and a sloop. Can't think of too many more epic things in video games than that.
@lumpaywk said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
I know this kinda goes against what i just said but hay i am fickle lol. Just you cant really expect to be able to limit one set of players to match a second and vice versa.
I'm sorry, I may just be really frustrated and tired but I don't really understand what you were saying there.
@oatter said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
I just spent the last 3 hours fighting off 2 sloops at a skull fort event because every time we sank them they'd just spawn at the next outpost over (about 2 islands away) with fresh supplies and continue contesting. We sank both sloops a total of at least 15 times until we ran out of supplies and had to scuttle the galleon at which point I just gave up. There needs to be some serious changes made to the spawn mechanics of this game before I decide to play it again and the ability to play on an Xbox only server. I'm tired of having to fight against players that have such a huge advantage over us console players. I don't want aim-assist or any of that c**p, just the ability to play on an even field which I don't think is too much to ask for.
There is no huge advantage in this type of game. There is a small one. But not every pc player is a God with M&K. Same with console. I play sea of thieves on both and have no problems.
@joeysav said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
@oatter so because he was a pc player and said that you want to disable cross play lol thats idiotic im sorry.
Try and be respectful and not insult others, please.
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Respect New Pirates and Their Voyage Ahead
May the old legends help to forge new ones: treat new pirates with respect and share your knowledge.@lemieux And just to add on that I don't want crossplay disabled at all, simply the option to play on an Xbox only server if possible.
@oatter said in I am done with this game until changes are made:
I just spent the last 3 hours fighting off 2 sloops at a skull fort event because every time we sank them they'd just spawn at the next outpost over (about 2 islands away) with fresh supplies and continue contesting. We sank both sloops a total of at least 15 times until we ran out of supplies and had to scuttle the galleon at which point I just gave up. There needs to be some serious changes made to the spawn mechanics of this game before I decide to play it again and the ability to play on an Xbox only server. I'm tired of having to fight against players that have such a huge advantage over us console players. I don't want aim-assist or any of that c**p, just the ability to play on an even field which I don't think is too much to ask for.
Have you tried asking if someone wants to team up with you ? We teamed up with 2 other ships yesterday, and fought of galleon few times with ease. We've done the same thing with two sloops too. One two man and one solo. The other does the fort, while others protect the fort.
@oatter "I know but I've had an Xbox since 2010 and have a lot of friends on here."
Your Xbox account is literally the same as your Microsoft account, you will have all your friends as long as you use the same account.
"I also really like using a controller."
PC's have USB inputs, for all kinds of things... Including controllers! ;3
@davejc64 Pretty much, saying M&K has any real advantage in this game is the height of ignorance. I mean hell, i aim better WITH a controller on my pc. This game has been designed to not have any balancing issues between xbox and pc. the hitboxes are like a barn door, and the 30fps vs 60 fps would really have 0 effect on actual gameplay, and if u want 60fps, get a pc! We have the best in that department!
There is no legitimate reason not give xbox players the OPTION to disable crossplay. Every single person arguing against giving xbox players that OPTION is doing so because they know they have a cheap advantage and they don't want to lose it. They are the same people who play 4 man teams and are 100% against solo servers. They don't want competition they just want to grief. This game is a cesspool of the worst people on the internet.
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