Pronouns Please

  • i hope this actually gets put in somehow as Titles or able to be put at the end of our pirates name Example AdaADHD (She/her). I've been playing a lot of custom seas and high seas and everyone always says "got him" for example. maybe they would correct themselves if we actually had pronoun's some people have been saying he/him or your a guy while spawn killing and when asked if they are transphobic they say yes. I'm on sea of thieves to have fun and laugh not get called a guy deal with transphobes. it can even happen if I'm not using my mic.

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  • I’ll be brutally honest, if someone is being transphobic and is intentionally disrespecting your pronouns, this won’t make them start respecting them.

    It’s not a bad idea, I just don’t think it will get the use you hope it will, if anything, it might be a conduit for more transphobia as people will be looking for the pronouns to get under your skin.

    I don’t mean to sound like a robot or obvious here, but if someone is being toxic towards you, you can record the behaviour and report it to the support team. It can be a coin flip sometimes but my experiences are more 70/30 ban vs no ban, the 30 could be chalked up to lack of evidence. I would not suggest using the ingame report feature

    I hope your experiences on the sea against other players improve and you see less transphobia

  • everyone always says "got him”

    Well this more of a genetic reply to every scene. Regardless of gender

    It’s not disrespect. It’s the same old problem in real life…..
    Nobody knows, nobody cares. Guys play as female avatars, or wear dresses. Nobody cares. We are “Pirates” that is all.

  • I think @Boneheart1237's is right and that adding your pronouns would paint a target on you and you'd likely experience more transphobia rather than less.

    That being said, I still support the option of displaying your pronouns if you want to.

    It's a bit like flying the pride flag on your ship. It's not going to protect you from anything. If anything it draws more aggro. But I still fly it whenever I sail, and if the option to include my pronouns comes up, I'll do that too. As Boneheart says, if someone wants to be transphobic, including your pronouns probably won't stop them, but I support the option for wider reasons of increased visibility and normalisation.

    And just to echo the above, if you can get evidence of someone openly admitting that they're transphobic, definitely report them if you can, though I know it's not always as easy as that.

  • @adaadhd sagte in Pronouns Please:

    I'm on sea of thieves to have fun and laugh not get called a guy deal with transphobes.

    … other guys play Sea of Thieves to have fun while not expecting nor wanting to have to deal with gender ideology.

  • I love inclusivity and representation, and that’s why I find it frustrating that Rare introduced a progress pride flag back in pride 25’ but haven’t added any other inclusive flags since (over a year).

    No Mental Health awareness month flag
    No Autism Awareness month flag
    No Cancer screening awareness week flag
    No Disability Awareness month Flag
    Ect, Ect

    Let’s focus on equal flag representation before we add pronouns.

  • @adaadhd
    The phrase "Got him" does not exist in sea of thieves quick chat. The phrase you are thinking of is "Got 'em!" which is avaliable when holding any weapon except the double barrel pistol, which says "Got 'em! Twice in fact!" instead. 'Em is a colloquial pronoun for them.

  • @spectergames706, arguing that "We shouldn't fix X, until we've fixed Y" is rarely an approach that leads to progress. The change you want is good and you should continue to push for it, but there's no reason it can't make progress side by side with OP's suggestion. There's no need to put including pronouns on hold until we've got equal flag representation, just like we don't need to put flag representation on hold until we've included pronouns. We're on the same team, making progress towards the same goal: accessibility, visibility, inclusion and representation.

  • i mean if someone is openly transphobic after rare adds it at least it lets me know who to block not even just with callouts. its just a good way to keep my game fun and enjoyable is all, I'm sorry but if a pirate wants to resort to saying rude and hurtful things about who i am as a person just cuz they sunk in game they deserve to be blocked i deal with it enough already.
    I don't wanna hear it on my adventures

  • I'm sorry but if a pirate wants to resort to saying rude and hurtful things about who i am as a person just cuz they sunk in game t

    There are worse things to be said about someone instead of "misuse of pronouns" in a video game.

    I don't wanna hear it on my adventures

    Mute is our friend here.

  • I feel like this would be very easy to add and there is no reason for them not to

  • @burnbacon

    There are worse things to be said about someone instead of "misuse of pronouns" in a video game.

    If someone complains saying "I went out for a walk and someone punched me in the face", the correct response is not "Yeah but they didn't stab you did they?".

    As I said above to spectergames, the fact that there are other/ bigger problems does not mean we need to put everything else on hold and solve things one at a time. Transphobia/ intentional misuse of pronouns is behaviour that Rare does not want on the seas, so providing feedback and suggestions on that topic is valid and useful, regardless of what worse things people might be saying.

  • @eligibleeel6171 said in Pronouns Please:

    @burnbacon

    There are worse things to be said about someone instead of "misuse of pronouns" in a video game.

    If someone complains saying "I went out for a walk and someone punched me in the face", the correct response is not "Yeah but they didn't stab you did they?".

    As I said above to spectergames, the fact that there are other/ bigger problems does not mean we need to put everything else on hold and solve things one at a time. Transphobia/ intentional misuse of pronouns is behaviour that Rare does not want on the seas, so providing feedback and suggestions on that topic is valid and useful, regardless of what worse things people might be saying.

    My my, why I'm not surprised you're comparing being hurt from a word (mispronounce) with actual violence. Lol.

    Same "progressive" reaction every single time. Ridiculous. 😂

    All I'm gonna say on this topic, and in general, is that people who can't control their emotions need to start seeking therapy. There is no amount of representation in video games that's gonna fix their obvious issues. Same as for those that want to be toxic, there is no amount of measures that's gonna stop these clowns.

    That said, any toxic behaviour should be reported and banned. No debate there, and doesn't matter what the toxicity was about. Rare has clear guidelines.

    But let's not compare colibris to elephants here. 😉

  • I think it’s important to remember that People are jerks.

    Although I understand the importance to some people of adding pronouns to this game, I worry it would just give toxic players more info about a person in which to antagonize them about.

    A while ago I sank to a pretty toxic duo sloop. They didn’t know anything about me, so they just deployed a very rude slur…that didn’t apply to me.

    But say, if I had pronouns above my head, or heck, a flag on my ship, they would know EXACTLY what to say to upset me.

    And that’s why I find this situation strange. We have one group that is being represented but not others. But by being represented, toxic players know exactly what to say to upset those players.

    Would pronouns really help? And even if there weren’t any toxicity, what about religious folk who don’t feel comfortable utilizing preferred pronouns? Is exercising religious beliefs toxic? At what point does one’s preference violate someone else’s rights?

    **You see, I’m spiraling here. The honest answer is I don’t know. I just want people of every nationality, creed, and sexuality to enjoy this silly pirate game. **

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