Suggestion: The Ship's Library - a collection of the ships logs you've sunk over time

  • It doesn't necessarily have to be the full log book either, it could be a list of the names of ships, captains, crew, and maybe their emissary status, that you've sunk (and collected the log book) over time.

    Either way it'd be cool to have this collection and see it grow.

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  • I love this idea. It'd be cool to have a visual representation of it like you do as the captain's voyages fill up the shelf on your boat.

  • Bad idea, as it further incentivizes you to sink every ship in sight. We don't need more reasons to reduce positive social interactions.

  • Positive social interactions ? Well , this is so rare. About the OP , not all ships are captained so a lot of sunken ship records would be lost.

  • @galactic-geek
    Perhaps it could also include copies of ships you made an Alliance with?

  • While I'd love to see more PvP commendations, metrics, and rewards in the game...this is not the way to do it.

    We don't need a stat tracker that gives us a Rare-endorsed motivation to sink tall talers, fresh spawns, new players, fisherman, etc.

  • This is a fun idea but only for captained ships.

    As a reply to the people concerned about it encouraging PVP on tall tale players and such, If you're sailing captained, you're already taking on the risk of being a pvp target since the logbook is of value. People that don't want PVP should be running a non-captained ship without emissary and selling loot as quickly as possible.

  • @thewatcher1307 If the logbooks were worth more than 300 gold, I could get behind that logic...but they aren't. They're basically worth nothing.

    Sinking ships is easy when you're the only one fighting. All that a feature like this would do is encourage sinking every Captained ship in sight to pad artificial stats to brag about on Reddit.

    Rare said at the EGX event that Season 8 would be PvP focused. Let's wait and see what that's all about before we clamor for a useless stat tracker.

  • @thewatcher1307 said in Suggestion: The Ship's Library - a collection of the ships logs you've sunk over time:

    This is a fun idea but only for captained ships.

    As a reply to the people concerned about it encouraging PVP on tall tale players and such, If you're sailing captained, you're already taking on the risk of being a pvp target since the logbook is of value.

    It's only 300 gold for the first 6 in-game days (750 gold with a Reaper Grade V). That's very little incentive to sink fresh spawns, which is what this would encourage.

    People that don't want PVP should be running a non-captained ship without emissary and selling loot as quickly as possible.

    So, people who don't want PvP shouldn't use a feature that's primarily PvE-focused? I wish they made that part of the marketing for Season 7 then. I agree on the Emissary part but not Captained ships.

    There are better ways to further encourage and reward competitive PvP through opt-in methods. This isn't it.

  • Yeah let's put in something I can take a screenshot of and rub in people's faces very specifically.

    Would totally not get used to harass players and Streamers.

    Would totally not increase logouts to avoid a sink.

  • Cool as it is. What purpose tho?

    Boarders aren’t gonna stop to view your list.
    (Same argument players have with trinkets) nobody gonna stop to check your ship out. :p

  • Imma be like Tom on myspace and be in everyone's list

  • @calico-jack3172 yes - this would only be logs of captained ships that you've sunk

  • @sweetsandman TBH I don't think this would make a large difference in how people choose targets.

    i.e. each crew has their own code, and this won't affect it

    For me I'd still only go after emissary ships, regardless of whether or not they're captained, and I wouldn't go after non-emissary ships just because they are captained.

    Crews who go after tall-talers etc will still do so, regardless of this potential feature.

  • @burnbacon This isn't for others it's for one's own review.

    I'd like to see if I've sunk a given ship/captain in the past. Potentially it could also serve as a subtle display of how deadly a given crew is (albeit only viewable once you're on their ship).

    (I'd argue the same applies for trinkets - they're not for others, they're for you)

  • @pithyrumble most of my reply to sweetsandman applies to your response - I don't see this making enough of a difference in terms of people's sinking/avoiding being sunk decisions.

    However I'd add that I believe anyone who is enough of an idiot to use this to rub a sinking in someone's face already has the tools to do that (taking a screenshot or recording the sinking)

  • @knurd9369 Very... egotistical players (TDMers) already record their moments of combat against well-known pirates and use their previous victories against them as a counter argument for literally... anything they do, content creator or not, it's very annoying, and leads to people giving and getting the wrong impressions about that person in general.

    This idea doesn't make it any better, and will fuel the worst egos into saying they sank a well-known player, who was solo/duo against their 4 man galleon of board spammers. Now this will come with solidified, eternal, in-game proof of such a scenario going down. No. Not worth happening.

  • @nex-stargaze i know is not on topic but i read it with the ferryman voice and honestly this sounds something like he would say , on topic 100% this will just be pure ego fuel even more so if is recorded forever

  • I keep making a joke about having something like this in the community discord since I keep finding more and more books just left in the waters and docks when I load in and dock up.

  • @realstyli If you make something worth even 100 gold, people will do it. People will sink a player with nothing but a seafarer's chest. Anything with gold value is encouraging PVP. Heck, the reapers chest that is just doubloons encourages PVP by making sure every player on the map knows where you are. Just cause they don't put the info in the release notes or a video saying its a PVP thing, doesn't make it PVE only content. Nothing in SOT is PVE, everything is PVPVE. Heck, new spawns were and still are sunk just for being at an outpost where someone wants to turn in loot anyway.

    I always have a problem with PVE lords getting upset about something encouraging PVP when the game is built around PVP and PVE together. I didn't like PVP when I was bad at the game, I practiced and played for a long time, got better, and still sink often to other player ships but that is part of the game and always will be. If someone wants a pirate game that is only PVE, they should go back to playing AC: Blackflag's story mode.

  • @thewatcher1307 said in Suggestion: The Ship's Library - a collection of the ships logs you've sunk over time:

    @realstyli If you make something worth even 100 gold, people will do it. People will sink a player with nothing but a seafarer's chest. Anything with gold value is encouraging PVP. Heck, the reapers chest that is just doubloons encourages PVP by making sure every player on the map knows where you are. Just cause they don't put the info in the release notes or a video saying its a PVP thing, doesn't make it PVE only content. Nothing in SOT is PVE, everything is PVPVE. Heck, new spawns were and still are sunk just for being at an outpost where someone wants to turn in loot anyway.

    I always have a problem with PVE lords getting upset about something encouraging PVP when the game is built around PVP and PVE together. I didn't like PVP when I was bad at the game, I practiced and played for a long time, got better, and still sink often to other player ships but that is part of the game and always will be. If someone wants a pirate game that is only PVE, they should go back to playing AC: Blackflag's story mode.

    I'm not a "PvE lord" because I'm bad at the game, I'm one because I don't like the idea of sinking newbies who are worse than me and still trying to find their feet (it's called empathy). Though I have no issue stealing stealthily from them if they have something I want. If a ship comes at me, then that's fair game as well. I just don't go hunting for PvP, I let it find me.

    I've said time and time again on this forum that the game has no skill-based matchmaking, that's why I'd prefer opt-in scenarios.

    Some players have standards and don't sink everything on sight, because they know it's bad for the game in the long run. But your last line tells me all I need to know about where this conversation is going. So happy sailing.

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