PvE that will be released will be unfair

@mayumixgamer Unfair? Lol. Rare have explicitly said they want Safer Seas to be a chill place for players or an extension of the Maiden Voyage. They don’t believe in a full PvE mode, this is very obvious. Players just have to get over that and accept that this compromise from Rare is as good as they’re getting.

why don't you create a server list for newbies blocked by levels for the most experienced person?

No, this would get exploited.

beginners would improve in pvp, or log in with region since not everyone knows English?

Multiple languages are supported in this game.

Create a safe zone at 3 outposts or even create a flag that you can use at a certain level to become immune to experienced players.

No. Again, this would be exploited.

The declared intention of SS is a training area to learn how to sail and play the game before going on the high seas. If the reward is too low for you, you are welcome to sail on high seas.

The game does not need safe areas or zones.

@eguzky we’re all PvPvE players, not separated ones. HG isn’t a “mode”, it lives within Adventure, everyone has access to it.

@eguzky I thought you were quitting the game?...

@eguzky said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@tesiccl said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@mayumixgamer Unfair? Lol. Rare have explicitly said they want Safer Seas to be a chill place for players or an extension of the Maiden Voyage. They don’t believe in a full PvE mode. Players just have to get over that and accept that this compromise from Rare is as good as they’re getting.

Nope. I won't stop until Safer Seas is a full PvE mode; Up to level 40 (To hit PL), emissaries, captaincy, and guilds.
It can leave out Athena's (end game content), Reapers (PvP content), and Hourglass (PvP content), and FoTD (Meant to encourage PvP).

• Why should PvP players get a full mode (HG), but PvE players are told 'Be happy you got anything'?
• Why do PvP players get to ruin the fun of a PvE player, but PvE players are told 'Cope or leave'?
  And before you say 'But Rare said...' I will remind you that 'Rare said' there would never be a PvE mode at all. And 'Rare said' all PvE discussions would be locked.

Safer Seas is at step in the right direction, but only a step.
AndI will not stop fighting for a full PvE mode, as long as my enjoyment of this game is held hostage by the most toxic of the PvP players.
(Note: I AM NOT saying all PvP is toxic or attacking anyone.)

I guess you can keep fighting, but safer seas is designed the way it is on purpose. Also your time isn't being held hostage by other people, it's being held hostage by you not wanting to take the plunge to enjoy the fill pvpve experience.

@eguzky

without a REAL PvE mode that we deserve

Nothing is deserved.

PvE players can't drag PvE content into it and change it.

Wrong. Any PvE element; Ashen Winds Skull, Skeleton Ship, Crying Chest etc. can be used to change the potential outcome of the fight. I get your logic but it doesn’t hold any weight. Sorry.

I get that but we used to be told that 'PvE would not happen' and threads discussing it were insta-locked.

Clinging to the past to justify the future is a poor argument.

@eguzky said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@captain-coel said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@eguzky said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@tesiccl said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@mayumixgamer Unfair? Lol. Rare have explicitly said they want Safer Seas to be a chill place for players or an extension of the Maiden Voyage. They don’t believe in a full PvE mode. Players just have to get over that and accept that this compromise from Rare is as good as they’re getting.

Nope. I won't stop until Safer Seas is a full PvE mode; Up to level 40 (To hit PL), emissaries, captaincy, and guilds.
It can leave out Athena's (end game content), Reapers (PvP content), and Hourglass (PvP content), and FoTD (Meant to encourage PvP).

• Why should PvP players get a full mode (HG), but PvE players are told 'Be happy you got anything'?
• Why do PvP players get to ruin the fun of a PvE player, but PvE players are told 'Cope or leave'?
  And before you say 'But Rare said...' I will remind you that 'Rare said' there would never be a PvE mode at all. And 'Rare said' all PvE discussions would be locked.

Safer Seas is at step in the right direction, but only a step.
AndI will not stop fighting for a full PvE mode, as long as my enjoyment of this game is held hostage by the most toxic of the PvP players.
(Note: I AM NOT saying all PvP is toxic or attacking anyone.)

I guess you can keep fighting, but safer seas is designed the way it is on purpose. Also your time isn't being held hostage by other people, it's being held hostage by you not wanting to take the plunge to enjoy the fill pvpve experience.

Ah yes, because it's my fault I don't enjoy a 4-man crew rolling up on my solo (or duo) sloop, spamming loud/high-pitched/racist things, and sinking me even when I tell them I have nothing (Or finding me at dock, having just logged in, & sinking me) because they need to feel strong.

Its not hard to fight a galleon. it's not easy to win, but you can fight. Turning off other crews voice chat is a fairly wise thing to do. I leave it kn so I can record/report people who are bad over comms. Being sunk at the dock? who cares, swap servers and get a new boat.

@look-behind-you said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@eguzky You have been told numerous times what Safer Seas will and won't include.

That is what is happening.

After a while, "continuing to fight" becomes spam.

Please refrain from spamming.

Thanks.

I get that but we used to be told that 'PvE would not happen' and threads discussing it were insta-locked.

I'm just giving my PoV as someone who usually finds the toxic branch of PvPers, and only enjoys the PvE aspect.

If you are only playing sea of thieves for pve, you are choosing to only play half the game.

Caught myself chuckling out loud when I read the word "deserve". If the SoT community got what it "deserved" Rare would actually take the game out behind the tool shed and put it down. They would then turn and look at all of the SoT community and tell us that this is in fact what we actually deserve.

@knurd9369 If you know, you know.

@eguzky said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@tesiccl said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@mayumixgamer Unfair? Lol. Rare have explicitly said they want Safer Seas to be a chill place for players or an extension of the Maiden Voyage. They don’t believe in a full PvE mode. Players just have to get over that and accept that this compromise from Rare is as good as they’re getting.

Nope. I won't stop until Safer Seas is a full PvE mode; Up to level 40 (To hit PL), emissaries, captaincy, and guilds.
It can leave out Athena's (end game content), Reapers (PvP content), and Hourglass (PvP content), and FoTD (Meant to encourage PvP).

• Why should PvP players get a full mode (HG), but PvE players are told 'Be happy you got anything'?
• Why do PvP players get to ruin the fun of a PvE player, but PvE players are told 'Cope or leave'?
  And before you say 'But Rare said...' I will remind you that 'Rare said' there would never be a PvE mode at all. And 'Rare said' all PvE discussions would be locked.

Safer Seas is at step in the right direction, but only a step.
AndI will not stop fighting for a full PvE mode, as long as my enjoyment of this game is held hostage by the most toxic of the PvP players.
(Note: I AM NOT saying all PvP is toxic or attacking anyone.)

Let’s dispel some myths here. Pvp don’t ruin the seas, now how YOU react to me may ruin the day for you. We have an entire FOF to some new Russian players that had us cracking up. I met them when I boarded them and dropped anchor. If they would’ve been toxic or started with gamer language they would’ve been sunk. Instead they were super funny and wholesome so we took them over to the FOF did it with them and gave all the loot. I love the interaction in the game, I also love the fights.

So often if a player is attacked it’s because of “toxic” people. Just because someone plays the role of a pirate in a pirate game doesn’t mean they are toxic. It’s a preferred play style.

So going by what you’ve said is generally your beliefs, why did I have to do every tall tale 5 times and get all of the commendations for all the tall tales to obtain the gold curse? Shouldn’t I have been able to pvp for it? I HATE PVE for the most part so why was I forced to do sooooo much of it to obtain the thing that I wanted? Why doesn’t everything unlock with PVP?

@eguzky said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@tesiccl said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@eguzky we’re all PvPvE players, not separated ones. HG isn’t a “mode”, it lives within Adventure, everyone has access to it.

It's still a PvP 'mode' because PvE players can't drag PvE content into it and change it.
This makes it a pure PvP aspect of the game. A 'mode', if you will.

It's also not fair that PvP players can assault PvE players just looking to do some treasure hunting, camp their ship, force them to scuttle, and take all their items when PvE players don't want to enjoy that PvP content.

Yet PvE players wanting to avoid PvP? Suddenly that's 'not fair' and 'broken' and 'goes against the game'.
Strange how PvP players tell PvE players to 'deal with it', and then get up in arms when PvE players want a mode where they aren't targeted all the time.
Almost like they can't 'deal with it' when the idea of NOT having easy targets is brought up.

@captain-fob4141 said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@eguzky I thought you were quitting the game?...

When did I ever say that?
I said that, without a REAL PvE mode that we deserve, I will sit in Safer Seas until the lack of content bores me and then move on.

You can 10000000000% PVE HG! Here’s how, vote it up, go stack loot onto your ship. Reach faction 5 for treasure, go lower HG, earn the rep, sell the loot.

Next excuse?

@eguzky said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@captain-coel said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@eguzky said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@tesiccl said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@mayumixgamer Unfair? Lol. Rare have explicitly said they want Safer Seas to be a chill place for players or an extension of the Maiden Voyage. They don’t believe in a full PvE mode. Players just have to get over that and accept that this compromise from Rare is as good as they’re getting.

Nope. I won't stop until Safer Seas is a full PvE mode; Up to level 40 (To hit PL), emissaries, captaincy, and guilds.
It can leave out Athena's (end game content), Reapers (PvP content), and Hourglass (PvP content), and FoTD (Meant to encourage PvP).

• Why should PvP players get a full mode (HG), but PvE players are told 'Be happy you got anything'?
• Why do PvP players get to ruin the fun of a PvE player, but PvE players are told 'Cope or leave'?
  And before you say 'But Rare said...' I will remind you that 'Rare said' there would never be a PvE mode at all. And 'Rare said' all PvE discussions would be locked.

Safer Seas is at step in the right direction, but only a step.
AndI will not stop fighting for a full PvE mode, as long as my enjoyment of this game is held hostage by the most toxic of the PvP players.
(Note: I AM NOT saying all PvP is toxic or attacking anyone.)

I guess you can keep fighting, but safer seas is designed the way it is on purpose. Also your time isn't being held hostage by other people, it's being held hostage by you not wanting to take the plunge to enjoy the fill pvpve experience.

Ah yes, because it's my fault I don't enjoy a 4-man crew rolling up on my solo (or duo) sloop, spamming loud/high-pitched/racist things, and sinking me even when I tell them I have nothing (Or finding me at dock, having just logged in, & sinking me) because they need to feel strong.

@look-behind-you said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@eguzky You have been told numerous times what Safer Seas will and won't include.

That is what is happening.

After a while, "continuing to fight" becomes spam.

Please refrain from spamming.

Thanks.

I get that but we used to be told that 'PvE would not happen' and threads discussing it were insta-locked.

I'm just giving my PoV as someone who usually finds the toxic branch of PvPers, and only enjoys the PvE aspect.

Record and report the toxic players in the menus also do it to Xbox and they handle it pretty quickly. No not banned from game necessarily but in game comms are nuked for a week or so. Mute other players ability to text in game and now you don’t hear them. Problem solved 🤷🏼‍♂️

If someone rolls up on you at spawn and you don’t scuttle swap seas, it’s your choice to stay on that server.

Stop running into the door yourself and people won’t have to tell you to stop running into the door. Solve the simple problem. Also I find it hard to believe that this is an everyday all the time thing, unless you are the hateful racist one in the game, not accusing, just saying if you call me fun disrespectful things I will make sure to follow you all server and take every piece of gold you wish to earn. Again that’s IF another player wants to be toxic.

@jon-sea-nah don’t expect a reply from them, ever… ;p

@brentjitsu said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

Caught myself chuckling out loud when I read the word "deserve". If the SoT community got what it "deserved" Rare would actually take the game out behind the tool shed and put it down. They would then turn and look at all of the SoT community and tell us that this is in fact what we actually deserve.

After they unveil me playing the game and my mother cries 😂😂😂😂 cue Sarah McLaughlin in the background “arms of an angel” as SOT breathes its last

I think @Look-Behind-You 's posts and past mods replies say everything that needs to be said on the subject.

@jon-sea-nah How many people would stop paying for Xbox Game Pass if SoT went down? I sure as heck ain't paying for it for Halo or whatever game that clearly cannot make it on there unlike SoT which I'm pretty sure is the longest running game pass title to this day. Mad respect to Rare for putting up with us.

I agree that risk vs reward is the way. But, a 4 man galleon vs a sloop is greater risk for the sloop not the galleon. Perhaps the reward for a solo vs 4 man should reflect that risk in gold for the sloop. Just a thought really. I'm good with current payout but to support the argument risk vs reward that would encourage play and level the reward vs risk.

@onedeviousdog a sloop can easily beat a galleon. That said if you feel like it's so unbalanced you are more than able to sail in a galleon and find a group of players to sail one in

@onedeviousdog A sloop is at more risk than a galleon? You sure about that? I've sunk plenty of galleons with my sloop!

@brentjitsu said in PvE that will be released will be unfair:

@jon-sea-nah How many people would stop paying for Xbox Game Pass if SoT went down? I sure as heck ain't paying for it for Halo or whatever game that clearly cannot make it on there unlike SoT which I'm pretty sure is the longest running game pass title to this day. Mad respect to Rare for putting up with us.

This may sound dumb but I play zero other games really, so ya I’m not paying for game pass without SoT we are quite lucky. I think most don’t realize what this game was BEFORE storage crates, back when captains chests were RARE

@I am good with how it is, has been, will be. Someone making a point that risk vs reward is the solos choice in regards to being sunk by a galleon. I don't disagree but it's not balanced where it could be. Gold payout.

the game itself is a little unbalanced between new and experienced players when it comes down to it

Have you never played any other game where New and Older players have different experiences and its called "Unbalanced"
SoT is pretty much the Most balanced because the second you login, you are Equal footing. Nobody has advantage in the game. Even an unskilled first timer can sink a ship by Luck and simple firing a perfect cannon shot.

Even if you wanna throw in someone who been playing since D1, that isnt anything. Even the oldest player gets rusty or simply...never encountered a threat :p
Even cursed cannon balls dont make you strong if you MISS!

Its not even released...and even before the first week. Players already clamming for "More" stuff that suits them. Rare gave a carrot and now players want the whole Farm.