@zslipp1n said in Pirate Legend.. Athena lvl 10, now my feedback about the game.:

@shruffles No bruh,
He mean that there is basically no reason on being Pirate Legend if you can do everything without being one
No extra content just for you or stuff like that, all you need to do is queue with a Pirate Legend and you good

This is my beef with Pirate Legend. The quests feel like they should have been the way the game was meant to be played from like level 25+, with something even cooler at 50.

As it stands you need a decent crew (which usually means non-Legends) to complete Legendary Quests, the non Legends get the same reward in addition to it being an incredibly efficient way for them to grind up to Legend themselves.

I think alot if the lower level ship customizations are expensive. I think the max for the lower level stuff should be like 50k. I'd be ok with higher kevel stuff being more expensive as thats how I was expecting it to work anyway.
The Pirate Legend stuff is cool but it's not that great. Having the logo on the belt and another title once you max that rep is a great idea as well.
So much is right with this game and so much is wrong with it.

@mrgrim67686 said in Pirate Legend.. Athena lvl 10, now my feedback about the game.:

@duvelske Spot on. They outright lied about content. Not a good look for Rare.

Unfortunately, they have no choice but to shred their integrity to appease MS.

I won't go so far as to say spot on... But I'm there with you in a way, the OP too.

The ability for anyone who is present on a voyage to complete the Athena's grind deserves credit. The OP doesn't seem to feel that way. I would wager even the OP can see that it should be fair for anyone, even non-PL to earn Athena's rep if they put in the time.

The failure is that the ONLY thing that exists for PL is an Athena's grind, so little else exists (IE Nothing) that it is perceived that Athena's IS the PL grind...

What should be present, and aren't, are PL exclusive play features that cannot be worked with alongside non-PL. This being contrary to the interest of grouping with others creates a problem.

I can promise that if there were no rewards for me as a non-PL and a PL asked me to voyage with them to fill a slot I wouldn't. There needs to be a carrot for the effort. Athena's is exactly that.

But there really does need to be something that ONLY PL players can attend too. Something that is exclusive; perhaps a ship type, play locations, something.

Perhaps like the hideout - a place only PL and their invitees can attend too which contains things all can gain from but each maintaining one part that requires PL.

Like levelled gear in various MMO's... sure you can have everything...but that one item... that's PL only.

Even Athena's rank 10 can offer that... there's more than enough reason for the whole set to be something everyone can earn, but perhaps a more intersting recolor of the ghost armor that's "PL Only". this way players can at least gain something for the effort still... but they can't get EVERYTHING.

I can easily imagine 2 sets of Athena's being available with one looking better or different and once you hit 50/50/50 you can also wear the stuff you gain from also having that last 10?

Point is I still feel that those who work alongside PL deserve an equal share... but being PL itself DOES lack.

There really needs to be more post PL that simply doesn't exist right now. That I CAN agree with.

@duvelske

For starters, the claim that the game "begins" at legend... that is just bogus. I hit Athena's 10 some time ago. I used ZERO cheese. I can tell you that while I was leveling, I had friends that were cheesing... they were cheesing merchant. They were cheesing Order of Souls. Guess what? They hit legendary...way after when I did. Any perception that it is faster is totally bunk and imaginary. It is not faster by any stretch, and if something goes wrong it just ends up wasting more time beyond that.

The ghost outfit is totally garbage. The pirate legend outfit is totally garbage. At one time it seemed like legendary was "purple" but now the game is loaded with purple items. Usually the other purple items look better than the legendary ones (my opinion).

Grinding will kill this game. Voyages are what you do while you sail around looking for other things to do. We enjoy PvP. Sail around and wait for a skull fort or look for other ships while you voyage. Grinding though...will drive you out of this game in a skinny minute. I know probably 15 people that hit legend, then went onto Athena's 5 or 6 well before I did that stopped playing this game so long ago it is ridiculous now that I am at 10 and they are still at 5 or 6.

The thing to remember though, is that this game came out with what it was supposed to come out with. We were never promised anything more. Now, beyond that we were promised weekly content updates, which we have been getting since they (like every game) worked out server availability and stability. Since they are weekly content updates, they are nothing big... but the weekly updates have always had small features added and bug fixes implemented.

Aside from that, now they have rearranged their schedule to implement Live Campaigns (what they now refer to as weekly events) earlier in their timeline than they had planned. Again, these updates are larger than the weekly updates, but they are still coming out way too frequently to be anything major.

The third and last thing that we know about is expansions. The game is slated to have a life or between 5 and 10 years... and during that time they will be doing expansions for the game at no cost to the players. We are getting (planned at least) a total of 5 expansions to the game this year. We know we are getting Cursed Sails and Forsaken Shores. I think Cursed Sails may be the smaller of the two, and will probably leave a lot of people disappointed...because of "speculation" threads and videos, and hype from people that just can't keep their expectations in check.

Before Rare had to rework their roadmap there was a lot of discussion and hint that the pirate legend content would be implemented later on in those expansions. Because people whined so much about content in the game, even with everyone knowing what it was ahead of time, reworking that roadmap may have caused some changes in what was planned. They may have taken some of those features intended for legendary pirates and shifted it into Cursed Sails or Forsaken Shores when it was originally intended for another expansion.

All we can do with those parts is wait. Honestly I think that is the reason for "selling" levels. They want to take the grind out of the game, but they are refusing to admit to themselves that once you become a legendary pirate, the grind gets worse. You can't just voyage for an hour...now you HAVE to voyage for 2-3 hours before you can stop. I don't think that selling commendations was a good move to alleviate complaints about legendary content, or the boring core of the game in general.

That is how I have always looked at this game anyway...but I still enjoy it, because I did all of my "grinding" on the side of doing other things that I enjoy. I hate order of souls voyages, I hate gold hoarders voyages, and I hate the merchant voyages. They all can b*****e. I just did them while I was doing things that I found enjoyable.

@duhtrubatman91 said in Pirate Legend.. Athena lvl 10, now my feedback about the game.:

I agree, the game truly ends after being a legend. I run the game mostly for all possible commendations n pvp as a Legend. Its very unfortunate that legends that have put in the real work n enjoy the game cant play their theme song unluss theyre at an outpost.The Legend pool is growing and it seems like the only thing legends have going for them are 20min biweekly voyages and a shiny unicorn. I have high hopes for that last alliance slot they have open but well sea.

Now that they are selling commendations that legend pool (just based on the number of players announced at E3 and the statistics provided by the Legendary Pirate achievement)... Legendary pirates have gone from 6800 to 10000 in the last 3 weeks. It has almost doubled since they started selling letters of commendation.

Though, I have no idea how much we can trust that 4 million player number, and definitely put no faith in the Xbox numbers.

Pirate Legends should be able to unlock the Man O War (6 man ship) cuz who wouldnt like 2 more people to help with those pesky Athena Quests! Also seeing a Man O War on the seas would be cool lol

@gulpee-rex said in Pirate Legend.. Athena lvl 10, now my feedback about the game.:

Same here... I was lvl 40 with Gold Hoarders, Order of Souls and the Merchant Alliance. So I'm not a legend but my Athena level was 1 or 2.

Make the grind for Athena available for Pirate Legends only.

The problem arises that if you manage to sink a pirate legend carrying the legendary chest, then what happens when you turn in the chest? Should you just not be rewarded for it?

I got to the point where you complained about getting nothing and stopped... Did you have fun playing the game? Are you still having fun playing the game?

I didn't have to get to 50 to know this is an oversize PvP sandbox without enough toys... but its a sandbox I absolutely love.

@zslipp1n said in Pirate Legend.. Athena lvl 10, now my feedback about the game.:

@shruffles No bruh,
He mean that there is basically no reason on being Pirate Legend if you can do everything without being one
No extra content just for you or stuff like that, all you need to do is queue with a Pirate Legend and you good

I thought that was painfully clear when the first person got into PL and saw ... there was nothing, but some shiny cosmetics?

I have a little suggestion to guys who thinks after PL and Alvl 10 game ends - type Zylbrad on http://Youtube.com this guy is showing what to do after you hitting PL :) Having fun its all this game about in any way you prefer.
And no im not talking here about there is huge amount of content - on this i fully agree that game need more stuff to do in, but for now all we can do is enjoy it in our way :)

@mrgrim67686 learn something new every day

At the moment hitting pirate legend and Athena 10, i am at a stage i have no purpose of being online, Yes i love the game but iv come to a stage theirs nothing to build up too. I would have preferred seeing some kind of prestige system added, that would allow us to continue leveling, Instead i am stuck with just making gold, not earning any source of reputation and its a shame.

I love this game so much, but with the lack of effort i see towards Pirate Legends it hurts, It's great the game is developing on the merchants and developing other methods to get exp, but we legends are left in the dark and for far to long.

Weapon upgrades or something, allow us to grind something new, from playing everyday to just once a week for the bilge rat, this is a big deal for some of us.