Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

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@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

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@Lowbei @Coldasbluessoul @Cpt-Toothpick

These posts are starting to get old fast it is not a PVP game or a PVE its both....Shouting its a PVP Getgud does nothing for the community.

Before you say go watch the video's I have.... and I've been around awhile....

Rare has also referred to SOT as an adventure game (go look up the definition of adventure it fits both pve/pvp) and when talking about content they have always said SOT is based around PVE but with the ever present risk of pvp to add to the excitement its why in all their trailers and interviews they are always talking about the sailing with friends treasure hunting, solving riddles etc they dont sit there and go SOT is a about sailing around sinking as many of the other players as you can for hours on end and if you want a break you can do some PVE and if you dont like pvp getgud or play another game....

The best example of a sandbox game that is both PVE/PVP is eve online and that has a bigger focus on PVE as thats how you drive PVP in a sandbox....

i know it is getting old trust me, it's very much a waste of my own time. But the community desperately needs to weed the likes of these people out. The person wont even sign up for a news letter but we are meant to believe they are the authoritative voice on absolutely everything Sea of Thieves.

My goal is to mainly make them look pointless and hypocritical to all the other users who may jump in a thread quick to see the overall tone of the people in it and if it's a discussion worth having, and its working like a dream. My favorite part is how insistent they are, and willing to keep walking into the same trap, over and over. I almost feel bad actually

lol the irony that you think you are winning this, while you rage about the pvp core aspect of the game, is priceless. dont feel bad, just focus on keeping your ship afloat while i make off with your loot :)

the irony is that you feel its about winning, that is probably the most prevalent thing to take away, meaning you were never here to do anything other than flame, attack, demean etc etc... But hey, i am not the one to decide.

Ask all your peers about how fantastic they think you are

He's more pirate than you obviously.

i mean he has a guild since 2005 apparently. nothing more pirate than that hahaha

Yeah but he's not playing a pirate game with a description stating "shared world" and complaining about getting his butt wooped is he?

oh you are one of those sorts of people... shame i thought we had a thinker over here. nevermind then move along... i get it we have all heard it before, not really the epitome of a well constructed argument "git gud, yolo swaggins bro beans, noob" etc etc...

go on tell me how good you are? i'm literally dying to hear it.

Your the ones discussing it I just finished playing pubg and come back to this post about how you all want it pve & nerfs that sloth only refers to yourself & when in my last statement does it hype up to me telling you how good I am, infact change that sloth to a goonie & your good to go! you just seem salty as the game description states "shared world" & then the reality hits you that its not going to change your going to keep getting rekt in pvp.

hmmm ignoring that you said rekt.... which probably sums up everything i need to know before venturing into this conversation...

can you point to me where i said the game needs nerfing? or only PvE? or did you just read two comments after your get rekt pubg match and come to the conclusion that you understand absolutely everything in the world?

I mention balancing sure, death penalties. Most of which you will find majority of other players feel similar about

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@lowbei said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@pilks4k said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@Lowbei @Coldasbluessoul @Cpt-Toothpick

These posts are starting to get old fast it is not a PVP game or a PVE its both....Shouting its a PVP Getgud does nothing for the community.

Before you say go watch the video's I have.... and I've been around awhile....

Rare has also referred to SOT as an adventure game (go look up the definition of adventure it fits both pve/pvp) and when talking about content they have always said SOT is based around PVE but with the ever present risk of pvp to add to the excitement its why in all their trailers and interviews they are always talking about the sailing with friends treasure hunting, solving riddles etc they dont sit there and go SOT is a about sailing around sinking as many of the other players as you can for hours on end and if you want a break you can do some PVE and if you dont like pvp getgud or play another game....

The best example of a sandbox game that is both PVE/PVP is eve online and that has a bigger focus on PVE as thats how you drive PVP in a sandbox....

i know it is getting old trust me, it's very much a waste of my own time. But the community desperately needs to weed the likes of these people out. The person wont even sign up for a news letter but we are meant to believe they are the authoritative voice on absolutely everything Sea of Thieves.

My goal is to mainly make them look pointless and hypocritical to all the other users who may jump in a thread quick to see the overall tone of the people in it and if it's a discussion worth having, and its working like a dream. My favorite part is how insistent they are, and willing to keep walking into the same trap, over and over. I almost feel bad actually

lol the irony that you think you are winning this, while you rage about the pvp core aspect of the game, is priceless. dont feel bad, just focus on keeping your ship afloat while i make off with your loot :)

the irony is that you feel its about winning, that is probably the most prevalent thing to take away, meaning you were never here to do anything other than flame, attack, demean etc etc... But hey, i am not the one to decide.

Ask all your peers about how fantastic they think you are

He's more pirate than you obviously.

i mean he has a guild since 2005 apparently. nothing more pirate than that hahaha

Yeah but he's not playing a pirate game with a description stating "shared world" and complaining about getting his butt wooped is he?

oh you are one of those sorts of people... shame i thought we had a thinker over here. nevermind then move along... i get it we have all heard it before, not really the epitome of a well constructed argument "git gud, yolo swaggins bro beans, noob" etc etc...

go on tell me how good you are? i'm literally dying to hear it.

Your the ones discussing it I just finished playing pubg and come back to this post about how you all want it pve & nerfs that sloth only refers to yourself & when in my last statement does it hype up to me telling you how good I am, infact change that sloth to a goonie & your good to go! you just seem salty as the game description states "shared world" & then the reality hits you that its not going to change your going to keep getting rekt in pvp.

hmmm ignoring that you said rekt.... which probably sums up everything i need to know before venturing into this conversation...

can you point to me where i said the game needs nerfing? or only PvE? or did you just read two comments after your get rekt pubg match and come to the conclusion that you understand absolutely everything in the world?

I mention balancing sure, death penalties. Most of which you will find majority of other players feel similar about

yeah I read literally the ones above mine after my epic pubg match where I got rekt like nobodys business then I came here to create a forum post asking for pubg to go pve & add safe places.

so you read nothing? didn't form an argument, didn't think any research was necessary before accusing people and shouting at people. all you knew is that you were right!

but yeah "git gud, GG, get rekt, (insert remedial gamer slants)" it's nothing new, you have brought nothing to the table in a thread discussing the idea of matchmaking systems to put more PvP prone against each other. Or did you even remember that is what the thread is even all about?

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@kermitdafrog91 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@lowbei said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@mcdougle99 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@pilks4k said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@Lowbei @Coldasbluessoul @Cpt-Toothpick

These posts are starting to get old fast it is not a PVP game or a PVE its both....Shouting its a PVP Getgud does nothing for the community.

Before you say go watch the video's I have.... and I've been around awhile....

Rare has also referred to SOT as an adventure game (go look up the definition of adventure it fits both pve/pvp) and when talking about content they have always said SOT is based around PVE but with the ever present risk of pvp to add to the excitement its why in all their trailers and interviews they are always talking about the sailing with friends treasure hunting, solving riddles etc they dont sit there and go SOT is a about sailing around sinking as many of the other players as you can for hours on end and if you want a break you can do some PVE and if you dont like pvp getgud or play another game....

The best example of a sandbox game that is both PVE/PVP is eve online and that has a bigger focus on PVE as thats how you drive PVP in a sandbox....

i know it is getting old trust me, it's very much a waste of my own time. But the community desperately needs to weed the likes of these people out. The person wont even sign up for a news letter but we are meant to believe they are the authoritative voice on absolutely everything Sea of Thieves.

My goal is to mainly make them look pointless and hypocritical to all the other users who may jump in a thread quick to see the overall tone of the people in it and if it's a discussion worth having, and its working like a dream. My favorite part is how insistent they are, and willing to keep walking into the same trap, over and over. I almost feel bad actually

lol the irony that you think you are winning this, while you rage about the pvp core aspect of the game, is priceless. dont feel bad, just focus on keeping your ship afloat while i make off with your loot :)

the irony is that you feel its about winning, that is probably the most prevalent thing to take away, meaning you were never here to do anything other than flame, attack, demean etc etc... But hey, i am not the one to decide.

Ask all your peers about how fantastic they think you are

He's more pirate than you obviously.

i mean he has a guild since 2005 apparently. nothing more pirate than that hahaha

Yeah but he's not playing a pirate game with a description stating "shared world" and complaining about getting his butt wooped is he?

oh you are one of those sorts of people... shame i thought we had a thinker over here. nevermind then move along... i get it we have all heard it before, not really the epitome of a well constructed argument "git gud, yolo swaggins bro beans, noob" etc etc...

go on tell me how good you are? i'm literally dying to hear it.

Your the ones discussing it I just finished playing pubg and come back to this post about how you all want it pve & nerfs that sloth only refers to yourself & when in my last statement does it hype up to me telling you how good I am, infact change that sloth to a goonie & your good to go! you just seem salty as the game description states "shared world" & then the reality hits you that its not going to change your going to keep getting rekt in pvp.

hmmm ignoring that you said rekt.... which probably sums up everything i need to know before venturing into this conversation...

can you point to me where i said the game needs nerfing? or only PvE? or did you just read two comments after your get rekt pubg match and come to the conclusion that you understand absolutely everything in the world?

I mention balancing sure, death penalties. Most of which you will find majority of other players feel similar about

yeah I read literally the ones above mine after my epic pubg match where I got rekt like nobodys business then I came here to create a forum post asking for pubg to go pve & add safe places.

so you read nothing? didn't form an argument, didn't think any research was necessary before accusing people and shouting at people. all you knew is that you were right!

but yeah "git gud, GG, get rekt, (insert remedial gamer slants)" it's nothing new, you have brought nothing to the table in a thread discussing the idea of matchmaking systems to put more PvP prone against each other. Or did you even remember that is what the thread is even all about?

Nah I just saw you trying to rip into someone else for telling you to #bemorepirate so I jumped on my bean train and decided enough was enough this fresh noob needs to git gud.

the answer to matchmaking is simple do what all other games do "skill based matchmaking" rare can collect the data of how people play and form that into the matchmaking system, But you don't need this snowflake who gets rekt in pubg to tell you that do you,you already know!!!

Honestly I don't have a clue what this threads about anymore there are so many with the same tag it's unbelievable I give up trying to keep track aswell as every thread now just turns into exploit or pve please.

yeah ok i am officially done with you too... i'll let you go back and read all the posts where that user was attacking people and telling people there is no PvE aspect to the game and that they all need to "git gud" and stop playing the game.

But you are on the ignore list. too. maybe join your buddy in digging the massive hole, it's probably big enough for the two of you

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@neller2000 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@lowbei said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@neller2000 said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

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@lowbei said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

you bought a pvp game

you will either adjust to it, or leave

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Really? Everything on the website would make anyone visiting believe it's a PvE game, with a tiny amount of PvP here and there.

I'm glad you're here to fix my opinion! Could you please tell me which cosmetic outfits, sails, hulls, equipment, player titles, new ships and quests you get with and from PvP? I'd definitely love to get started reaping those awesome PvP rewards and achievements. Maybe I just missed them.

your loot is my reward #pirateslife

So what you're saying is there's zero point to it since you might as well spend that time getting it yourself or waste a longer time trying to get it from them instead.

It's not a PvP game. It's not even both, it's 99% PvE.

it only takes me a few minutes to sink people like you. thanks for the loot. ive never bought a single voyage and im 39/38/32

this is a pvp game. you will either adapt or you will leave. also just a heads up, the term piracy, means to rob people. you are clearly in the wrong game. gg

You're definitely not that high from just PvP, period. And it's definitely a PvE game, devs will eventually scale you back some then some more then some more, right up until I feel like you're ok.

As long as there are only rewards, cosmetics, titles, achievements for PvE activities we can all safely assume this is not a PvP game.

i am that high, actually just hit 40 on gold hoarders, and again, i dont do voyages, only skull forts.

lol and no, the devs arent going to "scale me back until you feel im ok", thats hilarious.

you will either adjust to this pvp game, or leave. thanks for the loot.

Skull forts are PvE, what happened to your glorious PvP campaign.

idk about you, but i find a lot of pvp at skull forts

we sank 6 ships during the hour it took us to do the last fort. only two of them had loot, but i had a lot of fun :)

Don't worry, devs will fix your fun soon :)

haha they arent going to stop pvp, and they have never said anything about that. you are just mad and whining.

but feel free to keep claiming that the devs will give you pve soon, if that makes you feel better about sinking. gg

Sinking? I stopped playing after 6 days since everyone I knew ran out of PvE content and no need to get to legend either.

You're either getting nerfed or end up playing empty ships combat vs other PvP players.

Ill be back though when PvP gets nerfed into the ground or removed from the game. Either will happen very soon :)

the irony of casuals like you ragequitting and then demanding an entirely new game mode on the forum is hilarious.

the devs are ignoring you for a reason. gg

Naww, they're losing their prospective income. Tons of people like me on the verge of quitting. Don't worry, they either start paying more attention to PvE players and nerfing down PvP or it will be a very empty game indeed.

Of course you'll end up with less and less and less loot too, as the only ones left will be the ones only looking to PvP.

no worries, ill be 50 within the next week, and wont care about loot by then anyways.

You don't get it, they have to completely rework the way you play or lose the majority of their players.

Not only that, when they add more content, no PvE players of any significance will bother unless they completely knock down the PvP players.

the majority of their players bought the pirate game to be a pirate. piracy is the act of stealing. there is no piracy in the pve aspect of the game.

so no, you people who demand pve are the minority here. you will either adapt to the pirate life, or leave.

It's not a matter of adapting for us, majority are already leaving, just like they did with The Division, which had a similar strategy.

They too changed their minds and added tons of PvE and knocked down PvP. They managed to get quite a few players back but too little too late.

Rare still has a good chance, they just need to really knock down PvP players a lot, nerf them, ban them for griefing and such.

Dont worry, it will slowly start happening.

lol no, but its hilarious that you keep telling yourself that the devs are going to change their game to suit you just because you dont understand what piracy is.

Apparently you never played Pirates! or AC Black Flag, Monkey Island. No PvP there and plenty of piracy.

It will happen here sooner than later and then we'll all be back. But they need to hurry up though. Their planned PvP nerfs are not even remotely enough to make people come back.

lol they have no planned pvp nerfs.

Hahaha you're funny. They're looking into ways of stopping the spawn camping for one. They're also aware of the problem with outpost ganking.

Like I said, it will be fun very soon again :)

thats not "planned pvp nerfs". outpost ganking isnt going anywhere, and im ok with a 5 second invulnerability timer on respawns. thats not nerfs at all lol

Don't fret, that's just the beginning. They'll really have to bring down the nerfhammer to get people back.

Thosd things won't even make me think about coming back, no, it needs to be far more drastic.

the thing is the game doesn't need a nerfhammer or a banhammer, it just needs some balances. The PvPvE needs to be re-examined, reworked to encourage all sorts of play rather than one or the other. I doubt Rare anticipated the way the community were gonna turn the game into a deathmatch mode. All the test up from the earliest alphas and pioneer test never once gave the faintest idea that it was going that way. We never did, the players. Our concerns were trolls joining and dropping the anchor

Unfortunately they are going to have to walk back some statements, whether its bounty boards,or new types of matchmaking, or a social safe zone, or PvE servers (which by the way i think is the worst idea). The game in it's current state has no legs and is not nearly balanced enough to support the multiple avenues of play, it doesn't help either that it is not satisfying an audience who will commit to their years of engagement and support that they hope for. Death match guys play deathmatch till the next deathmatch game is out, this isn't new. CoD set this precedent years ago.

I'm almost certain they're going to make outposts free from PvP before long. Perhaps in the long run islands as well.

the thing is I don't even want outposts free. I had a suggestion thread where you make a safezone, like imagine a fortified castle right directly center of the map. It doesn't have any of the mission givers, meaning you can't hand in any loot. make it instant based. make it like Warframe, walk through two sets of doors and load into an instance of like 25 players running around a town, showing off their gear, having chats, drinking grog. Add factions (real factions, not mission givers) and guild signups in this area. add bounty boards etc... promote a reason to be in this area. That alone would increase my enjoyment of this game 10-fold, and its just one measily square on the map, its not even in the same server anymore once you enter those double doors. Even make it so that you lose any loot you gathered and left on your ship before entering the new instance.

See, I actually love the PvP and I love the danger of getting ganked. However, the 5 people I regularly play games with didn't care at all for the lackluster PvE and excessive PvP so they left and fast.

A lot of people will do the same as they did. I left because they left.

we get it, you werent pirate enough for this game. theres other games with less pvp that might interest you.

You keep going round the forum posting sentences like this but it makes no sense what do you mean by weren't pirate enough?

In SOT you login go on voyages get treasure and maybe defend your treasure or you steal other peoples treasure, if you think SOT is about logging in camping outposts,spawn killing and just sailing around killing people for the giggles then your the type of player thats needs to move to another game like COD or something...

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@cpt-toothpick said in Idea for dealing with hyper aggressive PVPers:

@gigglesnarf Ye punish players for being pirates in a pirate game :P diminishing return.. pff

This. And the 12 ppl who upvoted the OP seem to want some Pirate PvE simulator. Then this game is not for you. Sorry but that's the reality. The game is what it is and it's been in the open since betas so coming here weeks after release and demand changes so it fits "your" gameplay and by doing so ruin for the others who do enjoy it as it is.

Is it fun to see your ship sunk as you're on some island, no, happened to us all but that is why you check your surroundings before jumping off from your ship. To have some (map) awareness will save you alot. Do I consider myself to be some heavy hyper agressive PvP:er? No but I welcome the element cause it makes the game more fun.

I can only speak for myself and me crew but we don't go chasing someone we spotted miles away just because we are so bored (and agressive) that we just have to skip w/e we are doing just to go fetch that ship, who might not even have any loot or will just run off for some 40min chase. But I enjoy the element of suddenly being attacked or when we it to someone parked near an island as we are on our way to turn in a voyage. As an example.

Game is called Sea of Thieves after all, not Sea of Friends (yes you sail with friends but that's not the point). Since you can't steal from your teammates where do you think this "thieves" comes in? From PvP.

Coming from someone who has played since before the beta. This game is unbalanced. There should be incentive for playing both sides.

If I'm being honest. I made this post to start a conversation. I was hoping to get people going about how we can improve the game for both sides. I figured I'd see actual ideas.

Instead I've seen not much more than immature, flaming. Telling people that if they don't want to take part in PvP that the game isn't for them is just stupid. I take part in both and have no problem with PvP. I only want the game to balance it's two major halves. I'm not advocating pve servers. I'm simply stating at the moment something has to be done to make things fair for both sides.

PvP players keep saying we can't tell them how to play, but it's the most hypocritical thing I've heard. All the hardcore PvP players whine about people wanting to change the way they play, while they go around forcing others to play a different way. It's a double standard.