FEEDBACK: Rare's support team either doesn't care, or thinks we're morons ...

I'm 100% against alliances and wealth sharing and criticize both often but I dunno why you're reporting people.

The feature should be gone. It's counter productive to the stated vision of the game. It removes significance from commendations and cosmetics which weakens the game. It creates a environment with far less risk and maximized reward which is a complete imbalance. Not sure why they would push back on pve only and then allow a feature that not only mostly allows it but also rewards it significantly

but people aren't doing anything that should be reported, they are cheesing something the developers allow

@wolfmanbush @theblackbellamy

I'm not sure you've read my post firmly. Where have you seen me imply that anybody is breaking any rules?

The only thing I'm clearly stating is that people are creating a fake PvE-only environment, and they are abusing the way Alliance system works to the maximum, by farming gold, reputation and commendations 5 times faster.

Maybe you guys think such thing is "normal"? Maybe you believe it doesn't need handling... but I do.

@greengrimz said in FEEDBACK: Rare's support team either doesn't care, or thinks we're morons ...:

@wolfmanbush @theblackbellamy

I'm not sure you've read my post firmly. Where have you seen me imply that anybody is breaking any rules?

The only thing I'm clearly stating is that people are creating a fake PvE-only environment, and they are abusing the way Alliance system works to the maximum, by farming gold, reputation and commendations 5 times faster.

how are they abusing anything?

it's a (imo) terrible feature that they take advantage of. The entire feature is nothing but cheese. Cheesing cheese isn't abuse

this is on the dealers not the consumers

@wolfmanbush

how are they abusing anything?

it's a (imo) terrible feature that they take advantage of. The entire feature is nothing but cheese. Cheesing cheese isn't abuse

I'm not English, but I'm pretty sure that "to abuse" is a synonym of "to take advantage of" mate. We're talking about the same thing here...

this is on the dealers not the consumers

I never stated anything different than that.

And by the way, this is another indication that you didn't read my post, because if you did, you would see that my proposal for a fix is through game handling. It is not pointed towards users/communities.

The biggest absurd is actually on these emoloyees' side, as they are the ones asking me to report particular players...

@ste4lthles i agree i got 1 week ban for being toxic but all i do was playing tdm lol

@burnbacon ok buddy if u type his name on twich u can see that all he do is hoping server for reapers he is trying to say that bc of these alliance servers a lot of people are not playing the game as it is made to play

@theblackbellamy did u read the whole post ?

@theblackbellamy

Look bro, you're preaching to the choir if all you're arguing is that alliance servers exploit the queueing system and alliance mechanics.

I get it, and I'm with you there.

I guess I'm confused as to why, if you understand this isn't technically against the rules, you would bother to report them in the first place.

Let me ask you this: what did you expect was going to happen? What did you hope Rare would do after your report?

I expect Rare to take measures against fake PvE environments, which are over-abused by people who cheese themselves 5 times faster than usual/intended.

And the reason I reported the Discord server was so that I may give Rare an example that these practices do exist, and are in fact on a quite large scale too.

And after the brilliant replies I received from both Rare employees, I now expect a bit more professionalism on their side as well.

@burnbacon said in FEEDBACK: Rare's support team either doesn't care, or thinks we're morons ...:

Let’s all be frank here.
This isn’t about how “wrong” an alliance server is or the support team doesn’t do anything about it.

Please allow me to be perfectly frank with you too mate: I stopped reading exactly where the my quote of your post ends, because this IS INDEED about those two things specifically.

@theblackbellamy said in FEEDBACK: Rare's support team either doesn't care, or thinks we're morons ...:

@ste4lthles That is true, and that was sad :(

But why would you wish that on other players in other discords? Being banned for no reason other than association?

As for the alliance server exploit, as with any exploits, if Rare has an issue with them, they should patch them out. Banning a player for doing something the game allows is dumb.

Nobody said anything about players being banned my friend. IF somebody else implied that, I would like to clarify for myself (for the third time) that the solution for me is to adjust the gains when loot is sold while within an alliance with other ships.

Please do not misinterpret my post!!! I, by any means, DO NOT insist or support the idea of anybody getting banned, just because they used the tools they were given wisely!!!

In a game where nothing you earn or unlock gives you an advantage over other players, I couldn't care less who plays where.

All I care about is the sense of achievement I will get each time I reach any goal and knowing I did it the way it's supposed to be done.

That's enough for me.

If people have to cheese to get that feeling and sense of achievement, then that's up to them.

I believe Rare are fine with server alliance's, just as they are fine with server hopping for content.

If at any time they suggest otherwise. Then is the time to report such practices I guess.

@jollyolsteamed said in FEEDBACK: Rare's support team either doesn't care, or thinks we're morons ...:

alliance discord servers = player exploited pve servers thats just the fact theres no loop hole or other meaning to it

i would highly advise rare to actually get rid of the the 24/7 moderated pve servers that they keep up if not?

then why not just add a pve mode while we're at it theres literally no difference

"but uh its harder to join these servers" gods no it isn't do you know the only thing you need to do?

step 1: google sea of thieves alliance discord servers

step 2: press any of the many links that shows up

step 3: join discord

step 4: profit ez pve server

hell even seen plenty of advertising for these discord servers on the xbox LFG on multiple occasions

i literally find this contradictory the developers does not allow pve servers but they semi allow it at the same time

i am all in favor of people who have managed to collect people on their server convinced them to join a untrusty shaky alliance that could literally fall apart any minute thats commitment and hard work to get a fully trustworthy alliance going

but these discord servers that got staff working 24/7 to keep a single server up at all times mmm no don't like it

My... point... EXACTLY !!!

@theblackbellamy said in FEEDBACK: Rare's support team either doesn't care, or thinks we're morons ...:

@h4x3333 Lol I thought I did but if I missed something obvious, feel free to point it out.

OP reported an alliance server and offered his feedback and suggestions on how to nerf the alliance system with split rewards. Which is, btw, identical to something I've suggested in the forums too. Rare responds with a generic, dismissive, "here's how to report players" message and marked the issue resolved.

What part did I skip over?

So why are you hating on me, instead of supporting me? :D

@theblackbellamy

To be honest, this far into the game with these alliance servers being as prominent as they are, I don't think we're going to get that change at all.

Not unless we stand up we're not!

@greengrimz said in FEEDBACK: Rare's support team either doesn't care, or thinks we're morons ...:

@theblackbellamy

To be honest, this far into the game with these alliance servers being as prominent as they are, I don't think we're going to get that change at all.

Not unless we stand up we're not!

Gonna be quite an uphill battle for you warrior

When the supplier is happy giving out free ice cream and the consumer is happy consuming free ice cream there ain't a whole lot of leverage there to break that business arrangement up