More Customization On Ships

I like this ideas, but...

@franke8161 said in More Customization On Ships:

• National Flags:
  I think it would be very nice to be able to use national flags on your ships, for example if you would like to show people where you are playing from.
  It could also be used to see if the ship you're facing on the sea speaks your language.
  The national flags can either be free or bought in the Shipwright Shop / Pirate Emporium.

They do not let us have these flags because of several problems that exist between nations. Imagine in this time of pandemic corona virus if a Chinese enters a server with his flag? People's prejudice would cause him to be attacked all the time.

I think the idea is cool, but unfortunately our world is not prepared to accept different nationalities in a logical way.

@franke8161 said in More Customization On Ships:

@targasbr
I understand that.
But can't that already happen if said Chinese would type something in mandarin or talk mandarin in the voicechat?
If people choose to harass people based on their nationality, I think we should ban them from the game and let us have fun proudly hoisting our different flags.
Thank you for answering.

It's a little bit different. If a Chinese speaks something via voicechat or types something on textchat, you would need to be close him to see. Now you can see the flag from afar, and if you have a problem with any nationality, you can hunt the person for no apparent reason. In addition, this would increase the chances of saying something inappropriate by voicechat or text.

There is also the possibility of someone using the flag as a form of bullying, putting the flag on and using stereotypes to spread the wrong things about a nation. I will give an example of being based in my country. A person from a different nation places a flag of my country and propagates messages like "look at me, my country only has carnaval and soccer!". I don't really take offense, but there are people who take, because here are much richer culturally than that. I've seen something similar happen with people who wear the LGBT flag.

Unfortunately, banning does not solve it. The game has no real means of banning anyone. I have seen many players send videos, prints, several files that prove that other players are going against the rules of the game, but nothing is done. Whoever does this type of thing sometimes creates a secondary account just to not be banned in the main one.

I fully understand your point, so much so that in my gamertag I put the BR, which means that I am Brazilian, that is, I live in Brazil. However, it is quite common to find players of other nationalities who look at it, recognize it and tend to use it as an offense. It doesn't offend me, but I don't usually care about it, but some people do.

Everything we can do to prevent the world from spreading hate words, must be done.

@franke8161 said in More Customization On Ships:

@targasbr
This has given me a new perspective on it, thank you for sharing your view.
I will no longer advocate for national flags in game.
But if the day would ever come and Rare would add it, I will celebrate.
I hope that you may not be harassed anymore while sailing the seas and if someone gives you a hard time for your country, give them a cannonball in the face.

I really like this idea, I already wanted nation flags a lot, I remember that when I joined the forums I thought about the possibility of creating our customized flags and I still try to find a way to have this, at the time I still gave some examples, but I changed my mind when I thought about the problems they would cause.

@franke8161 said in More Customization On Ships:

@targasbr
After giving it more thought I realized that if players are willing to accept that some nasty people may try to pick on them for their nationality, just let them hoist their flag proudly.
Chances are that harassment like that will come in one way or another anyways.

What about also place flags of religions and political ideologies?

@franke8161 said in More Customization On Ships:

@targasbr
I don't see why you would need to show your religion or political views on their ship in SoT.
There is a difference between having a flag of your country on your ship (like real ships) and having to tell everyone that "I believe in this religion" or "I have these opinions in politics".
I think the politics flag would be more dividing than any country flag could ever be.

Countries are nothing more than imaginary lines that separate people based on their politics or religion. Sure, it goes beyond that, but in the end it's all the same.

And also in this game with lore about magic, curses and other fantasy elements it would be really
out of place to need to display your real world religion or political views.

Assuming that the person lives in a country with strong political ideologies and a state that is not secular, showing the flag of their nation can be a problem, both for them and for those who feel differently

@franke8161 said in More Customization On Ships:

@targasbr
That's an interesting way to see the question of if a pirate video game should allow national flags on their ships.

Lot's of games have the option to hoist flags or in some other way show were you are from, there are no problems in those games.
Why would SoT be so different from all other games?

That depends on the audience the game is aimed at, whether the audience agrees with this type of action and whether the audience is sensible enough to know how to separate things.

This also depends on the game, there is no problem in raising a German flag in a game based on World War II, it is even part of the game base. But these games are generally aimed at adults, which Sea of ​​Thieves is not. It even runs away from any nationality, the devs says that Sea of ​​Thieves is a world outside the real world, the lore itself wants to avoid headaches with people complaining about nonsense things.

I would love a game where we can talk and do what we want. Hoisting a flag hated by everyone and causing chaos, killing other players with lots of blood like we do at Doom, for example, but unfortunately it is not that simple.

If we can prevent other people from spreading meaningless hatred, why help them do something bad?

@franke8161 I’ve always wanted national flags - there was a huge uproar when the gay flag was added - if they add that then they should dam well add national flags

@franke8161 ha detto in More Customization On Ships:

@targasbr
I understand that.
But can't that already happen if said Chinese would type something in mandarin or talk mandarin in the voicechat?
If people choose to harass people based on their nationality, I think we should ban them from the game and let us have fun proudly hoisting our different flags.
Thank you for answering.

this is a good point dude, but people in games are some times horrbile.... and racist, some times i get insulted cause i'm italian or just doing jokes on me... for my accent