@admiral-rrrsole @admiral-rrrsole be more selective in voyages? Your doing something wrong if you spent 10 hrs a day since launch and not legend. Also I didn't contradict myself, and I didn't once say I didn't hop. What I did say was based on my experience (of grinding to legend forts and voyages) even before the loot upgrade, voyages were more efficient. Some people actually do forts because it is fun, not efficiency.