why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails

  • hey guys so ok so here a quick thing to point out to those who dont want pvp as a pirate legend DONT USE YOUR PL SAILS! you make yourself a target for players looking to steal loot. like when i see them first thing i want to do is boqrd your ship and see what kind of voyage you are on and if you have loot i can take. but thats me.. im not hartless me and my crew ran into a crew who was on there very first athena voyage so we gave them an escort with our reapers flags drawn and we sunk 4 ships that came to take there loot they didnt even want to fight us they wanted the boat with the PL sails and at the end the player was mad that he spent all that money on the sails but is now afraid to use them. i told if you want to mess with ppl put them up with your reaper flag and may e they will think your out to steal chest and leave you alone...

    what do you guys think about this

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  • Worth the risk making allies give them athena.. dont carry loot.. earn a lot of cash from allies and sometimes pirates waste there time but they earn nothing from it. Just dont carry loot if you fly reaper and neon sails to find people

  • @mr-outsid3r-2u first, reaper flag gets us less action...now we use white flag to lure in the prey. I think the players look to see where we are on the map and plan around us. And yes that legend sail is asking for trouble, we dont care about the loot....we see that sail and thirst for blood. Thinking it's a challenge.....turns out the title should be "sailor legend" because none of em have a pirate bone in em. Were the pirates.
    We did a brig last night, seen a allianced sloop and galley in PL sets. Went by, galley took a shot at us so we spent half hour in a dog fight with both ships, sinking sloop, then as the galley ran like cowards we chased and killed and looted, treasure,cannonballs,planks...all of it. And they said were blow holes and are being reported.....haha. I said dont start something u cant finish.

  • I get more PvP action with basic sails, hull, and a white flag than I do with the decked out PL ship

  • @mr-outsid3r-2u

    I haven't worn anything that identifies me as a legend for a while.

    Sometimes if I'm having a PVP evening it's nice to put on the legend cosmetics for the ship. Only because that does seem to attract people who have a high opinion of their own skills. It's nice to test them. It'd be even nicer if they ever brought some loot for me to make it interesting, but they obviously don't think THAT highly of themselves that they'd put loot on the line to make it that little bit more intense.

    Generally though, my attitude is why advertise that you are a Legend unless it will achieve something for you. You know you are, your crew probably knows you are. You can let anyone else know pretty easily if required to. Keeping your cards close to your chest gives you a tactical advantage. If they're expecting a sailor and get a pirate legend that will put them off guard. If they know what to expect then they'll plan accordingly.

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  • Best thing about the PL sail is it has that slit in the middle so I can kinda see where we are going and still be full sail.

  • No when I’m putting on my Legendary Ship Livery, PPl Running away from me, Piratelegend is an Rank with respect people are looking up to you and don’t want to fight with this kind of experienced Player!

  • I don't personally like the look of Legendary stuff anyway.
    But if there's some pros to wearing the Legendary stuff I might consider it.


    Btw, I'm almost a Pirate Legend.
    (Like 2 levels left)

  • @mr-outsid3r-2u ive been saying that since the last event i always use random stuff the athenas is just a giveaway i only use figure head if anything and even that isnt a definate now its just the pl anchor and wheel for most part even my guy normally only has buckle

  • @ajm123 i agree with you like i toss on all the PL ship parts and set the reapers mark when im in the pvp mode but ppl ether run or want the fight

  • @johnny-vain i set thw reaper flag when doing skull forts and when running around the map looking for a fight the last 2 days we been playing with the flag raised and asking ppl to fight us i really hate to chase ships for hours

  • Yargh Har Har!

  • @ghostpaw said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    I get more PvP action with basic sails, hull, and a white flag than I do with the decked out PL ship

    Same. - Many gets scared of the PL/ATHENA things on the ship.
    It really depends on who were on the server basically.

  • @reapinglegion yeah exactly.

    Once you get a feel for a server you usually get an idea of whether using full athenas is likely to get you chased down or have them running away from you.

    Then, and only then, will I equip my Legendary cosmetics, for the ship, I'd still rather they had to guess who on the crew is PL (hint: it's everybody). I'll only put them on if they'll achieve what I want, whether that be people giving me a wide berth or people coming to me for a fight.

    The Athenas flag can also be a good way of signalling to potential allies in DR, or spotting victims...

  • @ghostpaw said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    I get more PvP action with basic sails, hull, and a white flag than I do with the decked out PL ship

    Absolutely this!

    Sadly there is still a portion of the player base who take great joy from ruining a new player's day, so they see a plain default ship = noob and as such will go out of their way to try and attack... It can be like a red rag to a bull sometimes!

  • @king-deka sagte in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    No when I’m putting on my Legendary Ship Livery, PPl Running away from me, Piratelegend is an Rank with respect people are looking up to you and don’t want to fight with this kind of experienced Player!

    LOL. PL is not a rank to be respected. It is a rank that demands competition. Similar to how the title "The Fastest Shooter in the Wild West" led to this having to be proven anew every day. There's a "legend" driving? Let's see what her abilities are. Attack!

  • @sshteeve said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @ghostpaw said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    I get more PvP action with basic sails, hull, and a white flag than I do with the decked out PL ship

    Absolutely this!

    Sadly there is still a portion of the player base who take great joy from ruining a new player's day, so they see a plain default ship = noob and as such will go out of their way to try and attack... It can be like a red rag to a bull sometimes!

    To be honest the most common fully default set are crewed by full hardcore PvP crews than newer players.

    Most people customize their ship to some extent unless they are rocking an initiation voyage, especially newer players love a nice looking ship.

    I tend to check the voyage table to abort the onslaught if that is the case.

    @MR-outsid3r-2U whether you want to profile yourself as a legend crew or not is up to you. I personally swap out what I use based on my mood and the only thing a legendary ship does is make people go all out on you as they assume that you can play and a good battle might happen or avoid you because they are newish to the game and fear us due to the fact that a lot of legends use it when out on the hunt.

    I never feel bad for destroying or stealing from other legends as they are accustomed to the game and the dangers of the seas.

  • We sunk a galleon 4 times yesterday who was flying the reapers mark and with full loot on board and no skill. They were all sailors.

    We didn't feel bad because they had the reapers mark up. Maybe your advice isn't all that good?

    It also depends on the person. Me and my buddies can stand their own, we figure most people 'd be like nope let's not mess with that ship again and we'll be a sort of visible representation of the don't mess with me ship.
    But if you're solo or are not confident I'd say don't use the Neon sails telling people there's a ton of treasure on board :-P

  • @cotu42 said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @sshteeve said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @ghostpaw said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    I never feel bad for destroying or stealing from other legends as they are accustomed to the game and the dangers of the seas.

    If they have gotten all the way to Legend they should be used to getting robbed. If not, you are doing them a service by robbing them.

    To be honest, unless it's a PVP crew using Legend cosmetics to put people on notice, I tend to not be impressed by the lack of tactical awareness flaunting your Legend status indicates. Worse still the players who try to intimidate you over comms because they are Legends (new Legends, all of them) they get the Launch Crew EoR to the dome.

  • @hynieth said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    We sunk a galleon 4 times yesterday who was flying the reapers mark and with full loot on board and no skill. They were all sailors.

    We didn't feel bad because they had the reapers mark up. Maybe your advice isn't all that good?

    The reapers is an invitation: I am up for a fight are you? Never feel bad to give answer to give that call.

    It also depends on the person. Me and my buddies can stand their own, we figure most people 'd be like nope let's not mess with that ship again and we'll be a sort of visible representation of the don't mess with me ship.
    But if you're solo or are not confident I'd say don't use the Neon sails telling people there's a ton of treasure on board :-P

    When solo I sometimes really enjoy rocking my Athena 10 full Ghost set or the original set, just for giggles and being a show off.

    Usually if you would manage to catch me there will be a full Athenas run of loot and/or a bunch of chests and skeleton captains treasure scattered around the anchor based on how long I have been on.

    Though I haven't lost my treasure in a long time when solo, some do get a glimpse of it and I glow from different angles. Guess I am one of the reasons why people hunt legendary ships.

  • @hynieth I suspect some people have been opening up ships at the end of sessions and letting an open crew sail in their colours.

    I've come across a few A10 ships with legitimate Sailors on board, well that or very good actors.

  • Then I will use continuously. I want pirates coming to my ship!!! Free loot!!

    Where you see an enemy ship I see loot floating.

  • @goedecke-michel said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @king-deka sagte in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    No when I’m putting on my Legendary Ship Livery, PPl Running away from me, Piratelegend is an Rank with respect people are looking up to you and don’t want to fight with this kind of experienced Player!

    LOL. PL is not a rank to be respected. It is a rank that demands competition. Similar to how the title "The Fastest Shooter in the Wild West" led to this having to be proven anew every day. There's a "legend" driving? Let's see what her abilities are. Attack!

    It was RESPECTED some months after release when REAL good players was piratelegends, now everybody is it...most of the ones nowadays gets to athena 8-9 before reaching piratelegend and that's so uglyword up if you ask me.

  • @reapinglegion sagte in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @goedecke-michel said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @king-deka sagte in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    No when I’m putting on my Legendary Ship Livery, PPl Running away from me, Piratelegend is an Rank with respect people are looking up to you and don’t want to fight with this kind of experienced Player!

    LOL. PL is not a rank to be respected. It is a rank that demands competition. Similar to how the title "The Fastest Shooter in the Wild West" led to this having to be proven anew every day. There's a "legend" driving? Let's see what her abilities are. Attack!

    It was RESPECTED some months after release when REAL good players was piratelegends, now everybody is it

    After release, the first legend was a cheater, don't you know?

    ...most of the ones nowadays gets to athena 8-9 before reaching piratelegend and that's so uglyword up if you ask me.

    Athena rank is something completely different than pirate legend status.

  • I don't see the problem with this. Just fight everyone. Not that I ever have anything worth fighting for, my only goal left in the game is sinking 500 skeleton ships (and doing the Merchant Voyager commendation)

  • @goedecke-michel said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @reapinglegion sagte in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @goedecke-michel said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @king-deka sagte in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    No when I’m putting on my Legendary Ship Livery, PPl Running away from me, Piratelegend is an Rank with respect people are looking up to you and don’t want to fight with this kind of experienced Player!

    LOL. PL is not a rank to be respected. It is a rank that demands competition. Similar to how the title "The Fastest Shooter in the Wild West" led to this having to be proven anew every day. There's a "legend" driving? Let's see what her abilities are. Attack!

    It was RESPECTED some months after release when REAL good players was piratelegends, now everybody is it

    After release, the first legend was a cheater, don't you know?

    ...most of the ones nowadays gets to athena 8-9 before reaching piratelegend and that's so uglyword up if you ask me.

    Athena rank is something completely different than pirate legend status.

    Except him, her or it then.

    Athena is a sign on that you've did more than being a PL, shouldnt give rep to others than PL's, end of story.

  • @boxcar-squidy said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @hynieth I suspect some people have been opening up ships at the end of sessions and letting an open crew sail in their colours.

    I've come across a few A10 ships with legitimate Sailors on board, well that or very good actors.

    I usually always open up the crew right before I cash in so others get a nice surprise and some quick loot.

  • @marsmayflower that's way nicer than my sailing into the red sea and saying: "the ship is all yours if ye can save her" anecdote. I think we'll go with your story for the marketing brochure.

  • @boxcar-squidy said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @marsmayflower that's way nicer than my sailing into the red sea and saying: "the ship is all yours if ye can save her" anecdote. I think we'll go with your story for the marketing brochure.

    I am guilty of throwing all my loot overboard just so some cutthroats wouldn't get it. Noone gets my loot unless I want them to!

  • @mr-outsid3r-2u If they're a pirate legend chances are they WANT to be raided. People get bored of just doing voyages and want player interaction that's why we have the reapers mark. People use it to show hey we're experienced players with a lot of loot try and take it if you can. It presents a challenge to both the people who want it and the legends trying to defend it.

  • @simple-tora i agree like we been just riding around with reaper flag pl sails and just looking for fight we did the voyages it get a little boring i kinda wish i wasnt Pl it was fun trying to get it now we have it and its like ok so now lets find something to do

  • @reapinglegion i agree if your not pl you shouldnt get rep for athenas like it makes no point in having pl status if you can just have a buddy come and place one for you

  • @mr-outsid3r-2u said in why its pointless to use your pirate legend sails:

    @reapinglegion i agree if your not pl you shouldnt get rep for athenas like it makes no point in having pl status if you can just have a buddy come and place one for you

    I disagree. It is something I can offer my crew. If only PL can get rep, or purchase anything different as a result of their rep, then my friends would not want to work on them with me. Why would they? Athena voyages were not intended to be PL only and I hope that never occurs. The point of PL is not to strut around saying, “look at what I have access to that you can’t have. Lolololol!” The reason to reach PL is to enhance your crew.

    “No matter how successful you get, always send the elevator back down.” - Jack Lemmon

  • @ghostpaw i disagree cuz they get the gold rep the merch rep and skulls if they help you i dont think they should get athena rep

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