Why cater exclusively to PC?!

  • JJblackhat
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    This game needs the option to opt in or out of cross play. One major fact here is that pc players have advantages in combat such as swinging a sword faster w little delay meaning more swipes than console players consecutively. Higher sensitivity in moving the screen for quick aiming and some even need to cheat using hacks when they already have the ability to build their own macros.

    The console players are at a disadvantage and its becoming very problematic for console players and the outcry of complaints of players surrounding this subject is proof.

    I think the console buttons need to react faster, higher control sensitivity needs to be added as an option. Give the console players macros built into the game to map to our buttons.

    Level the playing field or create different fields for us to play on.

    Pc players are vocal on this topic because they see console players as easy targets or lesser threats.

  • H0TWHE3LZMCG

    @therealdadbeard good question. In most games that are on both console and PC, the consoles have aim assist. That may not be the case here.

    Either way, thanks for your competent response in lue of all that other trash above.

  • Gawdly Nevik

    Get off my thread if you can't be constructive. I don't want mouse and keyboard, I simply want the same support that PC is getting. You PC people are all the same despite your claim. You come in, argue some nonsense that is unrelated and think your best. Before patch, eye of reach was fair to all platforms- unusable. Now its only usable by PC. If you fail to understand that PLEEEASE, I'm begging you [Mod edited]

  • ExcitedCaius
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    @gawdly-nevik said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    Get off my thread if you can't be constructive. I don't want mouse and keyboard, I simply want the same support that PC is getting. You PC people are all the same despite your claim. You come in, argue some nonsense that is unrelated and think your best. Before patch, eye of reach was fair to all platforms- unusable. Now its only usable by PC. If you fail to understand that PLEEEASE, I'm begging you go find somewhere else to flex your superior e weiner

    Except that it's not unusable now. It's reached parity between platforms.

    Ignoring the evidence and stamping your feet doesn't make you right; you just sound like mouth-foaming blowhard. Chill, Gina.

  • A Cranky Eskimo
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    @gawdly-nevik @knifelife

    Let’s just all agree that the lack of acknowledgment that we have seen from rare on this topic is to blame for all the hostilities, and that they should add an option to play console only.

  • Gawdly Nevik

    I don't like that I'm stuck using my damn sniper like a grandma while pc is widely faster and then they call it parity. And then you've got these high n mighty keyboard warrior my c**p don't stink pc users that support the whole "parity" statement. I still can't effectively use my sniper, how about y'all on PC, hmm?

  • KnifeLife
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    @a-cranky-eskimo Careful cranky! That's all i suggested and he threw a hissy fit xD Now hes patrolling "his" thread like a rabbit dog with a bone! XD

    Ill say it again, these forums went to hell the second they locked the pioneer section. Csnt even agree with someone without them having a go at you xD

  • epicblade101900

    @vderickv Still wont hurt giving the same accessablity to both platform tho

  • Ghost 0f Dawn
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    We literally had our graphics shatterrd to cater to YOUR fps issues. Tell me more about us bein catered to.

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @gawdly-nevik sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    Get off my thread if you can't be constructive. I don't want mouse and keyboard, I simply want the same support that PC is getting. You PC people are all the same despite your claim. You come in, argue some nonsense that is unrelated and think your best. Before patch, eye of reach was fair to all platforms- unusable. Now its only usable by PC. If you fail to understand that PLEEEASE, I'm begging you go find somewhere else to flex your superior e weiner

    It is still completely useless on pc unless you up the sens way high so that you cannot aim at all when not in ads ? When I move to the edge of my mousepad (without my dpi script) I move about 20°. A controller just goes on and on only slower.

    I don't know why you think it's only useable on pc? Did you play on pc?

  • Daguse0
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    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:
    When I move to the edge of my mousepad (without my dpi script) I move about 20°. A controller just goes on and on only slower.

    Not slower... same speed now.

  • Rezerekterr
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    The EoR was usless on pc now it might be better i don't know. Xbox has problems too and i hope they get to everything without giving up. KB+M support on xbox needs to come fast because this whole "disable cross play" c**p sucks. i play both but mainly PC and man i suck at PC controls and i love to play with xbox people who are sometimes a lot better than me. I've never seen a hacker but i hope they get the worst they can.
    also @TheRealDadBeard i don't think there is aim assist on console which I think is good

    EDIT: i changed my mind on the EoR while we all thought it was usless maybe it was us using it too close to our enemy (maybe? idk just thought id add that)

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:
    When I move to the edge of my mousepad (without my dpi script) I move about 20°. A controller just goes on and on only slower.

    Not slower... same speed now.

    No slower still. You know you can move a mouse quick but a controller has a fixed movement rate. Issue on pc is the movement distance that I get with one swing.

    @rezerekterr sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    The EoR was usless on pc now it might be better i don't know. Xbox has problems too and i hope they get to everything without giving up. KB+M support on xbox needs to come fast because this whole "disable cross play" c**p sucks. i play both but mainly PC and man i suck at PC controls and i love to play with xbox people who are sometimes a lot better than me. I've never seen a hacker but i hope they get the worst they can.
    also @TheRealDadBeard i don't think there is aim assist on console which I think is good

    Still useless without my dpi script. Aim assist would debalance the whole game and give console gamers a big advantage. You know those aimbotlike skellies? Yeah the same only with players haha ... oh now I probably opened pandoras box with this one xD

  • Daguse0
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    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:
    When I move to the edge of my mousepad (without my dpi script) I move about 20°. A controller just goes on and on only slower.

    Not slower... same speed now.

    Hmmm, I'll have to do more testing. It seemed that the speed was about the same for both a mouse and a controller. None the less, this post is just stupid. I doubt he's able to confirm the other player was a PC, he just assumes so cause he got outplayed.

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:
    When I move to the edge of my mousepad (without my dpi script) I move about 20°. A controller just goes on and on only slower.

    Not slower... same speed now.

    Hmmm, I'll have to do more testing. It seemed that the speed was about the same for both a mouse and a controller. None the less, this post is just stupid. I doubt he's able to confirm the other player was a PC, he just assumes so cause he got outplayed.

    Speed is slower. The time it takes to travel a distance with a mouse vs controller is much lesser because you can move the mouse much quicker. Controller is a steady speed.

    Like I said: The issue is the distance I can travel until I run out of mouspad and have to reseat the mouse to go further to the right. And there comes the parity ;)

    I tested it just right before.

  • Lord Sphinktus

    @therealdadbeard no SoT uses Target frinction instead of aim assistance. It just makes aiming a bit easier by slowing it slightly while over targets, so you can play with high sensitivity and not have issues overshooting your targets.

  • Daguse0
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    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:
    When I move to the edge of my mousepad (without my dpi script) I move about 20°. A controller just goes on and on only slower.

    Not slower... same speed now.

    Hmmm, I'll have to do more testing. It seemed that the speed was about the same for both a mouse and a controller. None the less, this post is just stupid. I doubt he's able to confirm the other player was a PC, he just assumes so cause he got outplayed.

    Speed is slower. The time it takes to travel a distance with a mouse vs controller is much lesser because you can move the mouse much quicker. Controller is a steady speed.

    Like I said: The issue is the distance I can travel until I run out of mouspad and have to reseat the mouse to go further to the right. And there comes the parity ;)

    I tested it just right before.

    So could you up the mouse sensitivity? Or whats your solution?

  • hiyall1
    Marauder

    @gawdly-nevik i think with how slow it was, it was tuned to analog controls more than mouse. they fixed it so it would be more suitable on PC. in the future you can use an ADS sensitivity to fix it however you like. i dont know how it is on xbox but when i move my mouse 3 inches, i do a complete 360 without looking down my sights. when looking down my sights, i only move about 15 degrees out of 360 within that same 3 inches with the sniper

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @lord-sphinktus sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard no SoT uses Target frinction instead of aim assistance. It just makes aiming a bit easier by slowing it slightly while over targets, so you can play with high sensitivity and not have issues overshooting your targets.

    Ohh okay thats fine I guess!

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:
    When I move to the edge of my mousepad (without my dpi script) I move about 20°. A controller just goes on and on only slower.

    Not slower... same speed now.

    Hmmm, I'll have to do more testing. It seemed that the speed was about the same for both a mouse and a controller. None the less, this post is just stupid. I doubt he's able to confirm the other player was a PC, he just assumes so cause he got outplayed.

    Speed is slower. The time it takes to travel a distance with a mouse vs controller is much lesser because you can move the mouse much quicker. Controller is a steady speed.

    Like I said: The issue is the distance I can travel until I run out of mouspad and have to reseat the mouse to go further to the right. And there comes the parity ;)

    I tested it just right before.

    So could you up the mouse sensitivity? Or whats your solution?

    You could but then you would move the camera around super fast while not aiming! I have a script for my mouse that I use with my Logitech Gaming Software that ups the dpi big time and levels ads and non-ads sensitivity when I hold the right mouse button and only then. I can even disable/enable it with numlock.

    I can 360 now with the EoR in ads it's amazing xD

  • XStirfry
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    @tfsblindprophet well if they did that you would move onto the next complaint why is pc not capped at 30 fps like us LOLOLOL

  • Daguse0
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    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    You could but then you would move the camera around super fast while not aiming! I have a script for my mouse that I use with my Logitech Gaming Software that ups the dpi big time and levels ads and non-ads sensitivity when I hold the right mouse button and only then. I can even disable/enable it with numlock.

    I can 360 now with the EoR in ads it's amazing xD

    Ahh ok, I'll have to see about adding that, I have a g900 I just got.

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    You could but then you would move the camera around super fast while not aiming! I have a script for my mouse that I use with my Logitech Gaming Software that ups the dpi big time and levels ads and non-ads sensitivity when I hold the right mouse button and only then. I can even disable/enable it with numlock.

    I can 360 now with the EoR in ads it's amazing xD

    Ahh ok, I'll have to see about adding that, I have a g900 I just got.

    I have to warn you it's pretty complicated if you're not familiar with scripting but there are many premades online, but most of them don't work anymore or only on some mice.

  • Daguse0
    Ship Mate

    @therealdadbeard cool, thx for the heads up!

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @daguse0 sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard cool, thx for the heads up!

    np, someone has to fix the game for rare ain't we? xDD

  • HyR0 the PyR0
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    @gawdly-nevik said in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    I'm pro cross play but you can't address an issue for one platform when its an issue on both.

    Oh snap, a pro?! How much do you get paid?
    /s

    M+KB for xbox would be nice but I don't think it's the game holding it back. I think it's the console itself. Hasn't Phil Spencer said that M+KB support is being worked one for the console? Also, there are currently adapters you can purchase to use a M+KB on PS4/XBOne. No idea how well they work, I play on PC so it's a moot point to me, but I'm fairly certain the option is there, it just requires a super overpriced dongle to work. At any rate, I completely agree that official support for M+KB at the console level should be a higher priority to Microsoft than turning off cross platform. I've played the game with a controller on PC when I've felt like just sitting back on the couch instead of hunched over M+KB. I will say, in my opinion, the EoR hasn't been made OP for PC with the update. I agree that I do feel like it's speed increase isn't really any increase over controller, per se. It's an increase in speed compared to where it was on PC before, but it's not as if it's faster than controller. Where the advantage comes in is a mouse can make finer micro adjustments to things like waves moving the boat and whatnot. However, that said, someone who is killer with a controller can make those adjustments with an analog stick as well. It's just a matter of mastering the tools available to you. I'm terrible aiming down sights with a controller but I have friends who are deadly as hell with one. I'm not used to aiming with a controller, they prefer it. For me, the advantage isn't in the speed the EoR moves when aiming down the sight, the advantage is in the fact that I've been playing FPS games with a M+KB since 1992 when Wolfenstein came out.

  • Gawdly Nevik

    Just keep on with the jokes and stuff, I guess its easier to hide the truth with a bit of mockery. You [Mod edited] that claim to have tested and have in fact done nothing but troll the forums. This is the last you'll hear out of me because seems these forums are just filled with these [Mod edited] that know best LOLOL. Its fine have your ADS sensitivity buff, ill still spank that ace. Always have always will. Its just truly sad that you can't see the other side of things because what? [Mod edited]? Or "because, well, I'm pc so I'm automatically superior. I'm going to laugh myself to sleep tonight.

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @gawdly-nevik sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    Just keep on with the jokes and stuff, I guess its easier to hide the truth with a bit of mockery. You silly kids that claim to have tested and have in fact done nothing but troll the forums. This is the last you'll hear out of me because seems these forums are just filled with these PC MLG Pros that know best LOLOL. Its fine have your ADS sensitivity buff, ill still spank that ace. Always have always will. Its just truly sad that you can't see the other side of things because what? Retardation? Or "because, well, I'm pc so I'm automatically superior. I'm going to laugh myself to sleep tonight.

    If they buff your sens or give you an bigger slider would that satisfy you? You still would be at an disadvantage but could move faster. And like I said the buff to ads on pc was like nonexistant, trust me.

  • Gawdly Nevik

    @therealdadbeard it would in fact satisfy me and yes, pc would still have an advantage but I've always said it take a truly skilled player to take those advantages and make them that much more advantageous. On that note I've not once struggled against pc, I love the cross platform, I love this game and if they had given me an ADS buff I would have to agree its f'd up that we get a faster ADS than you, even if its just a temporary fix. And why on earth would I trust you, I have seen it first hand today with the PC players I play with. Much, much better for pc, and still trap for Xbox. Can't recognize that, you have problems.

  • Captn Crushem
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    @gawdly-nevik Because it wasn't an issue on both. Xbox when it comes to the EoR had the advantage. Easy anwser

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @gawdly-nevik sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    @therealdadbeard it would in fact satisfy me and yes, pc would still have an advantage but I've always said it take a truly skilled player to take those advantages and make them that much more advantageous. On that note I've not once struggled against pc, I love the cross platform, I love this game and if they had given me an ADS buff I would have to agree its f'd up that we get a faster ADS than you, even if its just a temporary fix. And why on earth would I trust you, I have seen it first hand today with the PC players I play with. Much, much better for pc, and still trap for Xbox. Can't recognize that, you have problems.

    I repeat the ADS buff was like nonexistant. If they move fast while aming they could do it before because of dpi shifting and/or high sens. You don't seem to get over it that the buff changed nothing at all.

    This is for people who don't use those techniques or play on low sens.

  • Gawdly Nevik

    Spoken like someone who actually has no idea. Before update, both systems, ADS unusable. How does it make any difference it was a little faster on xbox before, it was still unusable [Mod edited]. Now its just unusable on xbox. Nice try acting like you know and tested yourself.

  • TheRealDadBeard

    @gawdly-nevik sagte in Why cater exclusively to PC?!:

    Spoken like someone who actually has no idea. Before update, both systems, ADS unusable. How does it make any difference it was a little faster on xbox before, it was still unusable you moron. Now its just unusable on xbox. Nice try acting like you know and tested yourself.

    Geez .. forget it and [Mod edited]

  • Gawdly Nevik

    You done here?

  • TFSBlindProphet
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    @xstirfry not really.... But it's interesting that you complain and troll with childish comebacks when people bring up legitimate concerns on the forum page designed for concerns and desires... Didn't see where the forum was dedicated to trolling. You must have forgot this is not reddit....

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