Lower the bone chests requirements

When you search "increase FoV" there are EIGHTY SEVEN PAGES of posts asking for it. EVERY single one is locked and/or has the same boilerplate response.

https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/155620/another-fov-post-please-increase-the-max-fov
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/177230/increasing-the-maximum-fov-in-sea-of-thieves/4
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/178062/please-consider-increasing-the-fov-limit/2
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/177667/increase-fov-for-people-susceptible-motion-sickness/2
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/178653/suggestion-increase-the-minimum-fov-to-120-in-sea-of-thieves-for-better-gameplay-and-player-comfort/9
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/178663/increased-fov-for-console-and-computer-players/2
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/178761/please-increase-the-fov/2
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/164368/please-increase-the-fov-to-120-or-at-least-a-real-/5
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/161297/increase-the-maximum-fov-from-90-to-/9
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/159025/increase-fov/4
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/156649/future-fov-increase/2
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/150358/stop-deleting-fov-increase-threads-already/5
https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/140406/increase-fov-slider-to-at-least-120-degrees

"The FOV modification for Steam players was never intentional and has been removed in order to restore the intended settings of Sea of Thieves.

The game is designed for 90 FoV Maximum, anything beyond that looks distorted and broken.

There are no intentions to change this in future.

Dropping anchor here."

@potatosord Just change the commendation. Consistency means nothing to you.

There are no intentions to change this in future.

Dropping anchor here.

@capt-greldik I love playing reapers, for the longest time I only played reapers. I sold over 1000 treasure items to reapers before I got to level 15 in merchants. This is just insane though. 270 voyages.

NO ONE BUT NO LIFERS ARE GOING TO DO TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY VOYAGES. TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY

I have about…until the game shuts down or when I die. So there is enough time.
Your complaint is silly. Commendations aren’t meant to be completed in a few months or shortest time. They are there for something to do while you play.

@burnbacon I completed Pirates of Mischief in like 2 weeks. It would take more than 2 weeks of raw time to sell 90 of all 4 types of chest.

@potatosord are you ok?

You think doing 270 voyages is a lot? Try sinking 1,000 skeleton ships. 😂

Wait to see how many disciple urns are rewarded by new quests.

I agree that the current numbers are out of balance. For me it's not about the amount of time it will take to do it. It's the fact that there's only one voyage to get the chests (ok soon to be 2, but still) or hope that you find someone else doing the voyage. If the items were availabe in organic world events, FotD or even give us Reaper raid voyages, it wouldn't be so bad. A little bit of variety would be nice. Lower numbers or more ways to get the items. Either way works.

On a similar note, some of the hunter's call loot should be added to organic world event loot table. I could spam hunter's call raid voyages to get that relevant Reaper com, but more organic play would be better.

@capt-greldik said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

Why should reapers voyages be changed to suit those who don’t care to play reapers to being with?

Because the numbers currently presented for the "grind" are terrible anyways.

I don't know about you, but even I don't think milking a voyage 270 times is "good content".

They've lowered commendations in the past because every single time, it was an egregious grind no one wanted to commit to. To refuse to do that this time because supposedly a few select people who have nothing better to do with their precious time (in which we have yet to hear of anyone significant that has already knocked out 270 of these voyages and received their rewards for turning in a ton of low-value loot to Reaper's Hideout) actually care about preserving their "achievement" of the long task Rare put in front of them, is extremely wild thinking to go with.

They should have nerfed these commendations.

If they want to give us something to do for a season, give us all some real content to sink our teeth into, like a real content update did in the past. Unbelievable that there's complacency over a set of commendations and a singular voyage no one is going to commit to after the content's first week of releasing.

@uluckyhitreg said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

You think doing 270 voyages is a lot? Try sinking 1,000 skeleton ships. 😂

If you care about the title "Legend of the Sea of Thieves", I don't really know what to tell you.

That is a grind that is very easy to passively do, so long as you sink Skeleton Galleons as that progresses the commendation by 2. You find skeleton ships roaming everywhere, you sink them in the fleet, they can sink on their own and it might count for you, they pop up besides you; there aren't that many rewards locked from sinking 1000 skeleton ships, and it's been content for year without issue because you're always actively progressing it. It's not gonna be super fast (well now it could be because of raid voyages), but that can be done without issue. The issue with the NEW update is that offering you nothing to do but the NEW voyage that has NEW loot that can only be obtained from said, singular NEW voyage (currently), is preposterous.

That's not a content update, that's just padding to compensate for the lack of content that's actually been added, and people taking a stand against it aren't wrong one bit.

@nex-stargaze said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

@uluckyhitreg said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

You think doing 270 voyages is a lot? Try sinking 1,000 skeleton ships. 😂

If you care about the title "Legend of the Sea of Thieves", I don't really know what to tell you.

That is a grind that is very easy to passively do, so long as you sink Skeleton Galleons as that progresses the commendation by 2. You find skeleton ships roaming everywhere, you sink them in the fleet, they can sink on their own and it might count for you, they pop up besides you; there aren't that many rewards locked from sinking 1000 skeleton ships, and it's been content for year without issue because you're always actively progressing it. It's not gonna be super fast (well now it could be because of raid voyages), but that can be done without issue. The issue with the NEW update is that offering you nothing to do but the NEW voyage that has NEW loot that can only be obtained from said, singular NEW voyage (currently), is preposterous.

That's not a content update, that's just padding to compensate for the lack of content that's actually been added, and people taking a stand against it aren't wrong one bit.

Looks like I hit a nerve with some of you 😂 I did the 1,000 skeleton ships ages ago when the game had less going on. It wasn’t fast, but it was something you chipped away at. No need for a full rant — it’s really not that deep. At some point, the new commendations will be the same — new players will breeze through them while you lot cry about how long it took you.

Over the years I’ve seen people complain that commendations are too easy and there’s nothing to do, then turn around and complain that others take too long and feel like a grind. Rare can’t win. Honestly, they should just stop listening and make the game they want to make 😂

@uluckyhitreg said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

Looks like I hit a nerve with some of you 😂 I did the 1,000 skeleton ships ages ago when the game had less going on. It wasn’t fast, but it was something you chipped away at. No need for a full rant — it’s really not that deep. At some point, the new commendations will be the same — new players will breeze through them while you lot cry about how long it took you.

Maybe it's entitlement, but no one deserves to take that long on content that's not even worth being called "content". If they nerf them now, people can just get in and get out of the new content and wait for more (disappointing content), padding it is just a way to "make" people play the game more because people don't want to play the game anymore.

Over the years I’ve seen people complain that commendations are too easy and there’s nothing to do, then turn around and complain that others take too long and feel like a grind. Rare can’t win. Honestly, they should just stop listening and make the game they want to make 😂

Rare will win when they can launch a content update with 98% of the new content and previous content not being bugged on launch, Rare will win when Mike Chapman's ideas, suggestions, and thoughts get brought into the game (such as the nearly 5 years ago promised character loadouts so you can have set outfits and cosmetics to wear when playing), Rare will win when they actually look at proper community feedback instead of performing questionable ideas because it looks cool and nerfing many aspects of the game as a result (the grapple gun had to have been the most broken thing Rare could have added to the game, and they stuck with it, nerfed it beyond all reasonability, and took the blunderbuss with it).

We are allowed to criticize Rare's questionable actions and decisions, and level-headed criticism should be what Rare is looking for in the future season updates.

Long term goals and a reason to do something when you login is always a win in my book.

@tesiccl What reason is there to do most of the huge grinds in this game? There is no cosmetic unlocked in it. If there was something worth getting at the end of it maybe I would actually care. As it stands, I'm just straight up never going to try for this. If it was like 50 times I would be more incentivised to finish it. Most people who get the gold curse use checkpoint cheesing because doing FORTY FIVE tall tales is too much, nevermind TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY of the same voyage. At least the SoG slog is 9 different things instead of one.

If they disperse the loot into the broader loot pool so that you can also get them at skelly camps, burning blades, ashen lords, and fofs then I think the numbers are fine. I feel like they'd do this after the season ends. Otherwise, yeah, they should probably tweak the comms down a bit.

There are other commendations that take way longer to do. For example, not only do you have to do 100 LotV, you have to sink 500 skeleton ships, turn in 300 barnacled chests, turn in every kind of fish, get to distinction 5 for every faction, have other crews turn in 30 generous gifts for you (and humble), shoot a keg-carrying skeleton that kills at least 5 other skeletons on an active fort with another crew there 20 times, turn in 200 golden-variant of each kind of animal for merchant, kill the shrouded ghost 5 times, etc.

Nothing wrong with commendations taking time to do, and ask you can see, there are many others that take just as long (or longer) that you'll eventually get, with time.

@tesiccl said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

Long term goals and a reason to do something when you login is always a win in my book.

I totally agree. I get that having to repeat quests can feel like a grind and isn’t for everyone. But commendations are really the only reason I—and many others—keep doing quests like them. I usually do these quests once for the story, but if it weren’t for commendations, I probably wouldn’t do them again.

@i-marmot-i said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

If they disperse the loot into the broader loot pool so that you can also get them at skelly camps, burning blades, ashen lords, and fofs then I think the numbers are fine. I feel like they'd do this after the season ends. Otherwise, yeah, they should probably tweak the comms down a bit.

I agree. I’ve always thought some world events should have different grades. For example, loot from quests like this could appear at FOF or skeleton forts when the skull in the sky is golden. That would signal more waves or bosses with higher HP, but also better rewards inside.

@capt-greldik
people who like to play as reapers. Like to drown players and not kill ghosts

@europa4033
LotV is made faster, especially since there is variety and there are 100 of them instead of 270

@potatosord said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

I know you said recently in a dev update you weren't going to lower the requirements for the reapers loot commendations, but COME ON MAN. NO ONE BUT NO LIFERS ARE GOING TO DO TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY VOYAGES. TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY. You have to do MORE voyages to get these commendations than FoFs to get the highest grade in fortunes favour. This is nearly THREE TIMES WORSE than having to do LotV 100 times, but this puts 7 different markers on the map and in the world to tell people where you are. The new voyages aren't even that good. The TEENY TINY group of FIFTEEN PEOPLE you are going to annoy by lowering it will not matter. Just lower it.

I do find it severely lacking on their part that they, you know... keep doing this?
It was the same with milestones when captaincy came out, it was the same with Hunter's call's Pristine Teeth/Scales/Tusks. They can acknowledge it in their own video that "yeah this is kinda crazy" but doubles down still?

Especially since it doesn't really make sense? I get it, its supposed to mirror the loot sold by the other companies, but it has a few key difference:

1. The other companies loot can be sold at any outpost, unlike these that can only be sold at reapers.
2. You only get one or two of each item from each quest.
3. These items cannot be found in the over-world or as part of world events.
4. Reapers already have these commendations, from selling other faction loot, from 1 to 420, which is a lot on its own.

Fix the stupid requirements. Crybaby try hards do not matter and represent such a small portion of the playerbase that if you banned every single one of them it would make no appreciable difference.

Now I've only been playing since 2020, but I am a completionist and if I suffered through a terrible grind in this game, and rare suddenly made it easier. I would not care. I think I would be happy actually. Because I do not want others to suffer like I have.
I finished the Pristine Boar Tusks, the NIGHT before they nerfed them, staying online until 3 am with my friend to complete it. And I made no issue about it, I didnt leave angry comments, granted I did complain about the rarity of them, but still.

I am getting really sick of Rare finding new ways to introduce "lifetime" commendations into a game that's over 6 years old. Surely, we have enough of that? Are we supposed to stick to this game for another six years? I do like the smaller and easier commendations as I like to keep up.
I do like to have things to work towards, a reason to go online, but also for it to make sense or should every new season have a "do this thing 100 times" because of it?
No it makes no sense.
Real problem is that the people who make commendations don't actually play the game for commendations, do the Devs actually play their own game?

Besides, I feel like the quests should be done over and over again because they're fun? Not just to reach stated number, and if you play with friends, and you finish yours before them, you can just help them out to be nice.

@i-marmot-i said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

If they disperse the loot into the broader loot pool so that you can also get them at skelly camps, burning blades, ashen lords, and fofs then I think the numbers are fine. I feel like they'd do this after the season ends. Otherwise, yeah, they should probably tweak the comms down a bit.

They still haven't done that for Hunter's call, so I dont see this happening.

@themetalman4011

Yeah, probably not. I meant more that they should add it to the broader loot pool, otherwise they should lower the comm requirements.

@themetalman4011 They said they aren't going to lower this one despite lowering others to "respect the time players put in" but how does it respect the time that even more people will have to put into it in the future? I enjoy doing commendations that feel rewarding. The reason I haven't finished Shores of Gold for the Gold Curse yet is because it doesn't feel like it rewards my time. I've done 29 out of the 45 tall tales plays to do it but I can't push myself to finish it. I did the whole skeleton curse grind after I started SoG and before I finished it because that felt more rewarding, and I don't even think HG respects players time, at least after you get to level 100 servants it feels like it respects your time because it gives you so much more to unlock on a semi regular basis.

@core1516 said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

@europa4033
LotV is made faster, especially since there is variety and there are 100 of them instead of 270

Yes I know. I did it years ago and have the sword. I didn't do it in a weekend either, and a number of times we were contested over it. What's your point here, since there's also variety with reaper voyages as well? Also, what about the other achievements I've listed that also take time? Should those be nerfed as well?

@europa4033
1-2. 500 skeleton ships, 300 barnacled chests are made on the armada. Where for one event you will receive 4 ships (there were more before). At the same time, from the skeleton ships there will be barnacled chests. You can also dive on the armada to get expensive faction items (all, BUT not reaper)
3. all types of fish can be made on the galleon, but I agree with you it is really a loong achievement
4. you can do whatever you want loot is everywhere you don't have to do the same quest 270 times
5. 30 generous gifts and humble gifts. You can take 2 gifts from the bearing blade then find players and negotiate with them. When I did this, about every second ship agreed to sel. and it wasn't that boring
6. you can always make two ships on one server through pvp in 5 minutes or find a random ship on fof and form an alliance with it
7. I managed to make all the animals in about 30 hours, you can specifically look for tasks with diving with a golden animal and
8. kill the shrouded ghost 5 times I wouldn't consider this an achievement that can actually be done

@core1516 said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

5. 30 generous gifts and humble gifts. You can take 2 gifts from the bearing blade then find players and negotiate with them. When I did this, about every second ship agreed to sel. and it wasn't that boring

To guarantee another crew sells the gifts for you, gather a decent amount of loot and fly a max-level flag. Hang around at islands close to Reaper’s Hideout, and when someone comes after you, lead them there. Put up a "good" fight 😉 and make sure you sink right at the Hideout. The other crew will think they’ve bested you and will likely end up selling everything even the gifts.

@keylessword4029 said in Lower the bone chests requirements:

people got this commendation literally off selling 1 chest over and over again due to a cheat its WILD that they are defending these people calling their action an "accomplishment" that they dont want to make the people who "earned" the commendation feel bad by lowering the requirement for the 99% of players

There was a cheat for this?

We are not talking enough about this.
The current values for the commendations are insane.