Can you please delete the Pirate Code from your website if you're not going to enforce it?

  • Why is the Pirate Code even there, specifically #6?
    I'm new and my experience has been AWFUL so far. I have encountered 13 ships. 12 have attacked me, all but one had large crews against my undecorated solo sloop.

    You aren't doing anything to deter this behaviour and I know this isn't a fluke because it's literally the only thing I've encountered from other players.

    This gaming experience has been absolutely miserable, please just remove the Pirate Code if you're going to allow a game environment be so miserable to new players. It's lip service, it's a joke and everyone knows it.

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  • Respect can mean something as simple as treating you as an equal. What it isn't is a free pass to be unsinkable. Crew up, and most of your problems will disappear. Why do you expect success being solo in a game that revolves around crews?

  • @honkytonk1154

    I sympathise because we have all been there when starting. It is called the Pirate Code and not the Pirate Rules in all fairness.. I follow the code and know a lot of other pirates that do but it is often a baptism of fire, especially if you're having to go solo which is only recommended for more experienced players really.

    Join a LFG on the official forums or discord and learn from more experienced crewmates, it is the way!

  • @nabberwar said in Can you please delete the Pirate Code from your website if you're not going to enforce it?:

    Why do you expect success being solo in a game that revolves around crews?

    My good man, who ever mentioned expecting success? I expect 1 in 4 ships to ignore me. I think that's reasonable. So far my number is 1 in 13.

    My ship is undecorated. I am alone. I am in newbie waters. It's pretty clear I am trying to learn the game.

    What don't you understand about that?

  • @honkytonk1154

    My ship is undecorated.

    Plenty of crews don't put on cosmetics. Decorations are meaningless, even I don't put them on my ship. I grab some supplies and just set sail if its just me sailing.

    I am alone.

    Easily solvable by finding crew members utilizing the methods named above.

    I am in newbie waters.

    We are all new at some point. It isn't that far stretched of an idea that others can learn the same way we did.

    It's pretty clear I am trying to learn the game.

    I am glad you are trying to learn.

    What don't you understand about that?

    I've felt I've been quite clear on the matter presented.

  • @nabberwar

    It's weird you quoted me but you didn't actually address or engage with a single point, it's like it was just to be snarky and a bit rude.

    Kind of like the players that kill new players for fun and laughs. I'm seeing a correlation here. Maybe that's why you're so offended by my "Can I just stay alive for one single Voyage please?" post.

  • @honkytonk1154 honestly grow up or go play another game. There is pvp in this game and you cant expect other people to play by your rules.

  • @capt-kanna Matey! Place nice.

    I am watching this thread verrrrry closely!


    ALWAYS

    Be respectful. Sea of Thieves is a game for everyone regardless of age, gender, race, sexuality, nationality, creed or disability. Treat everyone with respect. Diversity only enriches this larger-than-life pirate community of ours and makes Sea of Thieves’ world a far more interesting one to explore. When we all play, everyone wins.

  • @capt-kanna
    Killing new players when you overmatch them 3 or 4 to 1 isn't fun, shouldn't be fun.
    If you're offended by me saying that you're probably one of the people that does it. Love it when griefers out themselves.

  • @honkytonk1154

    Sorry but I think he answered your points quite reasonably.

    You do not have a plaque attached to your ship explaining your unique circumstances, this is a sometimes comical, sometimes brutal 'pirate adventure' computer game.

    You are very unlucky finding 13 ships let alone being sunk by them all.

    Would you complain about being killed in a Battle Royal game?

    It happens in SoT unfortunately and the best advice is to always either crew up or man up!

  • @honkytonk1154 yeah sometimes i might have killed a new player and so what? I cant tell if pirates i meet on my travels are new to the game? You want me to ask every pirate i come by if they are new? Sounds silly to me.
    And this is not griefing at all. You are throwing words around because you arent getting treated the way you see fit.

  • @wagstr I am working on getting a crew together, I'm looking into Discord servers and getting some friends into the game, but you have to admit that the game is essentially inaccessible to me until I take the right actions? Like I just want to sail around and have some fun, and if only 3 out of 4 ships with large crews killed me I'd be happy. If only sloops fired on me, as a sloop, I'd be happy.

    You have to admit there's a trend on this game to obliterate anyone clearly less powerful. There's no sport in that, no satisfaction but in 4-5 hours of playing it is ALL I have experienced.

  • @capt-kanna
    I don't expect that, how are you not getting this?

    I'm saying that if all my encounters were evenly matched and I lost them all I'd be fine with it. I'm saying that it took me 4 hours yesterday to complete ONE voyage.

    I'm working on getting a crew together but the game shouldn't be unplayable otherwise, that's just terrible design.

    This isn't that complicated? Like I don't know what you're not getting.

  • @honkytonk1154 i was new once, just like you. I did not have a hard time AT ALL. In fact, most days when i play sea of thieves i dont even get attacked. I play solo aswell. So maybe you just gotta learn how to play and keep an eye out. I did all the tall tales 5 times each (to get the golden curse) and i didnt get attacked once.

  • @honkytonk1154

    I have to disagree and think you have been unlucky. I am amazed you sunk to a dozen ships in 3-4 hours, I sail around for that long and sometimes see 2-3 ships in that time.

    We do not bother other ships unless they bother us as a rule and I am sure there are many other players with that mantra. Saying that it is not griefing if people want to play the game in other ways but like I said I still think you have been unlucky..

    At the end of the day you don't lose anything except for a bit of time because it is session based. Gold means nothing because it is so plentiful and you'll soon make it back. It's all about the adventure tbh. Keep at it!

  • @wagstr
    Thank you for your insight. I really hope you're right - I can handle being unlucky if it means every play session won't be like this.

    You're right and I'll try to remember it, I lose nothing by being sunk but I like sailing around, I like doing voyages. Yesterday it took me 4 hours to complete one. Unlucky indeed.

    I'll find a crew and try again sometime. Thanks again.

  • When you join a server solo go up in your crows and take a look around

    if you see other ships don't do voyages in the area that they are lurking around. if the server looks crowded join a new one

    There are plenty of times I sail around for a couple hours without even seeing another ship you just have to find a server that matches up with your gameplay wants and needs

    When people approach you let them know you are friendly and do not wish to fight. This doesn't stop all pirates but it does stop some

    Getting good at dig maps will speed things up so you aren't in one place too long. Be picky about your voyage try to do ones that have easier objectives to prevent you from needing to be in one spot for a long time or far away from your ship

    On bounty voyages use firebombs often and kegs to speed it up

    Riddles go very fast once you memorize the areas and clues it takes time but once you have it down it'll be quick

    Sell often you never regret selling often you often regret not selling

    If you start getting hunted and don't want to fight run against the wind with sails in front outrun them to an outpost sell what you have lower your emissary if you have one and just find a new server

    It's fine for them to be hostile and it's fine for you to be passive and move on if you want. If you aren't into the pvp part just do what you can to get rid of your loot and bounce.

    A rowboat is a solo pirates best friend. Be sneaky with it be smart with it and treat it right, it'll get you outta sea pickles

    You can't control what others do or how they act but you can master the art of solo play to where it becomes more peaceful more often

    This is a pirate game and people are going to act like pirates but if you adapt through consistency and practice you will be able to solo PVE without a whole lot of issues with other pirates. You'll always have a bad run every now and again but you'll have good ones too just embrace the good experiences and throw the bad ones overboard

  • @honkytonk1154

    My first couple of sessions were on a Galleon with 3 n00b 11 year olds.... What an unmitigated floating disaster.. I understand you, believe me I do..

    It gets better when you find your sea legs! Seriously, get a crew with at least 1 experienced member..

  • @honkytonk1154 if you're looking for a crew you are welcome to join me and mine.

    Beyond that, there are important lessons to learn in every loss. Like ships will try to sink you 99% of the time. If you want to avoid being attack and sunk. The best way is unfortunately to learn how to sink others or avoid them. As a new player or a sloop you are not weaker than a brig or galleon, you just dont have the experience you need yet.

    Dont get discouraged though.

    Also, nothing in the pirate code says that attacking players is against the code. The code is about honor and treating people right after the battle.

  • @honkytonk1154
    Practically speaking, Pirate Code #6 has more to do with your own crew than other crews. This is because it is often difficult if not impossible to tell whether or not another crew is new.

    That being said if you find yourself in an especially aggressive server, switch to another server.

    You seem to have had a string of bad luck. There are plenty of servers out there where you can play for hours without seeing another ship.

    You may also be interested to know that when this game was being designed, Rare didn't want to allow solo play. They eventually caved to pressure and created the sloop and allowed people to play solo. But if it feels like some things in this game aren't balanced well for solo play, you are correct. This is why some of the best advice any of us can give for finding success as a new player is to find a crew.

  • You don’t just get to walk about a game like call of duty and not get shot because your new. This is a PvPvE game, Notice the PVP there. I’m really not sure what you expected. One of the main parts of this game is protecting your loot or stealing someone else’s.

  • @WolfManbush said

    When people approach you let them know you are friendly and do not wish to fight. This doesn't stop all pirates but it does stop some

    My son and I sailed with 2 new crewmates last night and had an absolute blast. One of them offers fruit to other players which works brilliantly to find out if they are okay and then there is always your instruments.. Start playing a shanty and see if they join in. Maybe wise to have a couple of blunderbombs and your flintlock ready at hand first though!

  • @honkytonk1154
    I'm amazed that you were able to encounter so many ships in that short timespan. Honestly when I'm playing adventure I can call myslef lucky if I even find 1-2 ships an hour. More often than not they are not even doing anything so fighting/sinking them isn't even worth it.

    If you really want to get your voyages done without getting sunk, then the easiest way would be to just get 1 other crewmember and then have one of you complete the digs/riddle/animals/cargo/skeletons while the other is keeping an eye on the horizon. That way you can avoid any other crew pretty reliably.

  • comapring sot with callof duty or lets say fifa dosent work,cause in those pure pvp games people just wanna win ,in sot its more about ruining someones session thats the fun in sot,and idk i dont enjoy it...

  • @honkytonk1154 said in Can you please delete the Pirate Code from your website if you're not going to enforce it?:

    Why is the Pirate Code even there, specifically #6?
    I'm new and my experience has been AWFUL so far. I have encountered 13 ships. 12 have attacked me, all but one had large crews against my undecorated solo sloop.

    You aren't doing anything to deter this behaviour and I know this isn't a fluke because it's literally the only thing I've encountered from other players.

    This gaming experience has been absolutely miserable, please just remove the Pirate Code if you're going to allow a game environment be so miserable to new players. It's lip service, it's a joke and everyone knows it.

    You don't realize it, but you're learning. Eventually you'll get to the point where attacks from other ships are few and far between - so much so that most of the time you'll have to actually go looking for problems if you want some action.

  • My plan is usually to obliterate everyone. I dont care if you are new or not. I treat all pirates the same. If you cant handle this, sorry.

  • @honkytonk1154

    as you can read here - there is less than a handfull of pirates here who treat the Pirate Code as Code of honor and act playfull and care tfor their fellow players.
    The majority in the forums are empathless murderers, not even thieves.

    That ship has sailed long ago.
    Learn to deal with it, get some experienced mates and that's it.

    but it wont safe you from gamers taunting you with derogative and contemptous speach or at least trying to make you look like the fool.
    Thats how some pitiful individuals have fun and call it gaming.

    The community has changed a lot, st least since year one and Arena.
    some of the more toxic gamers were here before that, but they were small in numbers.
    Their audience is growing like some other hate groups in the world are growing.

    Make fun on the cost of others is the new fun.

    One very important thing - dont partake and just scuttl and quit.
    Dont rage because they taunt and provoke you!!!

    dictate the battle!!!
    Game not fun?
    quit!
    then do something that is fun to you = win! :)

  • @honkytonk1154 said in Can you please delete the Pirate Code from your website if you're not going to enforce it?:

    Why is the Pirate Code even there, specifically #6?
    I'm new and my experience has been AWFUL so far. I have encountered 13 ships. 12 have attacked me, all but one had large crews against my undecorated solo sloop.

    What really happend is 12 out of the 13 ships you have seen are players being pirates, and being a pirate in Sea of Thieves is not breaking the pirate code. It doesn't matter if your a noob or a veteran, being sunk by players is going to happen, if you cant accept defeat in a mature way then this is not the game for you. I usually sink people on sight because i like the pvp, and no PvP is not toxic!

  • @bugaboo-bill said in Can you please delete the Pirate Code from your website if you're not going to enforce it?:

    @honkytonk1154

    as you can read here - there is less than a handfull of pirates here who treat the Pirate Code as Code of honor and act playfull and care tfor their fellow players.
    The majority in the forums are empathless murderers, not even thieves.

    That ship has sailed long ago.
    Learn to deal with it, get some experienced mates and that's it.

    but it wont safe you from gamers taunting you with derogative and contemptous speach or at least trying to make you look like the fool.
    Thats how some pitiful individuals have fun and call it gaming.

    The community has changed a lot, st least since year one and Arena.
    some of the more toxic gamers were here before that, but they were small in numbers.
    Their audience is growing like some other hate groups in the world are growing.

    Make fun on the cost of others is the new fun.

    One very important thing - dont partake and just scuttl and quit.
    Dont rage because they taunt and provoke you!!!

    dictate the battle!!!
    Game not fun?
    quit!
    then do something that is fun to you = win! :)

    Why would I be empathetic toward my opponent? In this game some players are pirates and some players are content. There is nothing wrong with wanton killing and taking all.

    Outside of a handful of events that encourage you to work with another crew tbe game doesn't incentivise "playful" behavior.

    <Article 6: Respect New Pirates and Their Voyage Ahead
    May the old legends help to forge new ones: treat new pirates with respect and share your knowledge.

    Respect is treating you equally not special. Im not going to take the time to determine if you are new or not.

  • @honkytonk1154 Its def more challanging going it solo , I know since I started out a solo player myself. If you want any advice let me know. I just ask first because I am tired of typing out advice to people not interested which is fine but why waste my time, ya know?

    As far as pirate code, what is it? I will admit I have played this game since launch and I think I glanced at it once when I first started. Its just a fun piratey guideline I guess not actual rules of the game. I dont need the code anyways, I am a wonderful person and am kind to everyone unless I have a skull that shoots fire out of its mouth, just ask @wagstr and @BloodyBil , they can confirm that.

  • There is the maiden voyage if you didn't know about it and if you run around there is a ton of stuff you can learn about the core mechanics of the game. I do fully understand that it doesn't teach every aspect but it really does help you get the core basics down and you can be left alone. And when you get better at the game overall you can go to the Devil's Roar A.K.A PVE lol. I sail for hours there and nobody anywhere in sight at all.

  • As a awful solo slooper I would like to say it is possible just not fun.

  • OP... to help you with your journey (and to give you some confidence in Article 6, I suggest you find yourself a seasoned crewmate to help you out and provide you with some good training in the game.

    There are many ways to do this, but the Sea of Thieves discord is a tried and true way to find other pirates to sail with.

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