Reputation System - Anti-Grief for Open Crews

@blazedrake100 Yes that's the idea.

You can only vote a crew member up or down once, but it can be changed at any time.

@trenix90 thats a bad idea.. heres why.. pirates were Not nice people, this game is based on pirates.. if you wana sail and not be bothered, find that game.. but this is specifically designed for cutthroat, mean nasty, thieving stealing, raiding killing and plundering pirates.. the game is Exactly how it should be.. if you sink and destroy some other sailors you arent upset about that, are you? its fair that you sink other ships, but not ok that people sink you? you gotta learn to be a better fighter, sailor or learn to watch the seas better for enemy ships, cause brigging Enemy pirates would just cause hostilities against other players.. the only thing remotely close concept to your idea that would be acceptable is killing enemy players near your Brig, which then allows you to vote them into the Cell. a timer would keep the enemy player there for a small amount of time, then respawning on their boat or ferry of the Damned.. but out right rep systems and ridiculous meters is too much.. they need to focus that time on things for Us to Do, not worry about a few players who cant keep up with the curve

@galactic-geek said in Reputation System:

"You can only vote a crew member up or down once, but it can be changed at any time."

That's a contradiction if I ever saw 1.

The idea won't work; there's a reason the reputation system was largely removed from XBL.

It would be too easy to downvote players who did nothing wrong, or for simply doing something you didn't agree with, or freely upvoting your friends.

I'll try to word things differently, because it seems like people aren't understanding what I'm saying. You can only downvote or upvote a player once, EVER. You only have one vote per person, forever. Not per session, not daily, not weekly.

@flintlock-avery said in Reputation System:

@trenix90 thats a bad idea.. heres why.. pirates were Not nice people, this game is based on pirates.. if you wana sail and not be bothered, find that game.. but this is specifically designed for cutthroat, mean nasty, thieving stealing, raiding killing and plundering pirates.. the game is Exactly how it should be.. if you sink and destroy some other sailors you arent upset about that, are you? its fair that you sink other ships, but not ok that people sink you? you gotta learn to be a better fighter, sailor or learn to watch the seas better for enemy ships, cause brigging Enemy pirates would just cause hostilities against other players.. the only thing remotely close concept to your idea that would be acceptable is killing enemy players near your Brig, which then allows you to vote them into the Cell. a timer would keep the enemy player there for a small amount of time, then respawning on their boat or ferry of the Damned.. but out right rep systems and ridiculous meters is too much.. they need to focus that time on things for Us to Do, not worry about a few players who cant keep up with the curve

Read the post before you reply. This is reputation system is only for your own crew, not enemy players. You should not be griefing your own teammates.

@galactic-geek said in Reputation System - Crew Only:

@trenix90 said in Reputation System - Crew Only:

@galactic-geek said in Reputation System:

"You can only vote a crew member up or down once, but it can be changed at any time."

That's a contradiction if I ever saw 1.

The idea won't work; there's a reason the reputation system was largely removed from XBL.

It would be too easy to downvote players who did nothing wrong, or for simply doing something you didn't agree with, or freely upvoting your friends.

I'll try to word things differently, because it seems like people aren't understanding what I'm saying. You can only downvote or upvote a player once, EVER. You only have one vote per person, forever. Not per session, not daily, not weekly.

That still won't stop players from asking others, "hey, can you upvote me?" Or, "hey, this pirate was a jerk, can you downvote him?"

So what? Over the course of games, it will even out. The feature can also be hidden for the player, so you won't know how people or if someone has even rated you.

@trenix90 yeah so this micro managing of voting your crew up or down on some reputation meter? lol weak sauce bro.. that is too much tinkering and not enough valued content. up voting people into the brig? isnt that where its at already? why not just sail in a closed crew and not deal with it all together?

@flintlock-avery said in Reputation System - Prevent Team Griefing:

@trenix90 yeah so this micro managing of voting your crew up or down on some reputation meter? lol weak sauce bro.. that is too much tinkering and not enough valued content. up voting people into the brig? isnt that where its at already? why not just sail in a closed crew and not deal with it all together?

This feature is mostly for open crews, not closed ones. So you don't have to use it, but it would benefit people like me. For example, I don't want to use the xbox app, discord, or any other outside application to find a group.

@galactic-geek said in Reputation System - Prevent Team Griefing:

@trenix90 said in Reputation System - Crew Only:

@galactic-geek said in Reputation System - Crew Only:

@trenix90 said in Reputation System - Crew Only:

@galactic-geek said in Reputation System:

"You can only vote a crew member up or down once, but it can be changed at any time."

That's a contradiction if I ever saw 1.

The idea won't work; there's a reason the reputation system was largely removed from XBL.

It would be too easy to downvote players who did nothing wrong, or for simply doing something you didn't agree with, or freely upvoting your friends.

I'll try to word things differently, because it seems like people aren't understanding what I'm saying. You can only downvote or upvote a player once, EVER. You only have one vote per person, forever. Not per session, not daily, not weekly.

That still won't stop players from asking others, "hey, can you upvote me?" Or, "hey, this pirate was a jerk, can you downvote him?"

So what? Over the course of games, it will even out. The feature can also be hidden for the player, so you won't know how people have rated you.

What makes you think it would even out? I like to play captain, and get a lot of flak for it at times. Does that mean I deserve constant downvotes? Not necessarily, but I can virtually guarantee you that it would happen. Not knowing how people have rated you would make things even worse - players need to know what the problem is before they can take steps to fix it.

If you like to play captain, give people an attitude, steal the wheel, then yeah I would vote people down like that. You could then play with other people who want to play "captain". While I'll play with people who are more open to work as a team. Honestly I understand PvP and constantly killing players for the joy. Yet we have no anti-grief protection for open crews and somehow people are against this? Makes me think what kind of players are actually playing.

@trenix90 that still makes no sense, and sounds like you are complicating the process of just finding good crews to sail with.. and you just have to make a Post, which Xbox has already in place lol .. need a group for Sea of Thieves, make a post.. simple.. Open crews always run the risk of acquiring a few trolls. so either close your crew, switch servers, or brig em till they leave.. but ive been on a galleon, where 3 people left, 2 joined and brigged me right off the jump.. so whats a Voting system to up or down vote going to do? lol just dont sail with those trolls.. a complicated voting system of reputation to find other sailors? no

and when in the Hell were Pirates Reputable people? lol Bad reputation was Good for them.. it defeats the purpose

@flintlock-avery said in Reputation System - Anti-Grief for Open Crews:

@trenix90 that still makes no sense, and sounds like you are complicating the process of just finding good crews to sail with.. and you just have to make a Post, which Xbox has already in place lol .. need a group for Sea of Thieves, make a post.. simple.. Open crews always run the risk of acquiring a few trolls. so either close your crew, switch servers, or brig em till they leave.. but ive been on a galleon, where 3 people left, 2 joined and brigged me right off the jump.. so whats a Voting system to up or down vote going to do? lol just dont sail with those trolls.. a complicated voting system of reputation to find other sailors? no

I'm a PC user. Xbox app requires you to have your mic open at all times. I also don't want to waste time finding a group, switching to discord, dude I just want to play. You think that's not a complicated and annoying process? MANY games have a report system that functions in the way I'm saying. Yet the system this game has is garbage because when I report someone, it says it cannot complete it at this time. Also I've heard I need a recording and I don't care to go through all the hassle of doing it. Sorry just no. You seem like you're part of the problem, because why you're so against this is beyond me.

@trenix90

Could easily see this being abused. This is well meaning in theory, but in practice, we know people and how they’ll use it.

We know that they’ll just downvote based on what they thought was wrong rather that what is objectively unsporting behavior.

I was once in an open crew where I was Brigged and verbally harassed just for being a Pirate Legend as soon as I logged in. They’d have downvoted me if this option existed and I would be getting a bad reputation unjustly.

Hell, I still get “unsporting behavior” reports on Xbox Live when I betray alliances sometimes, when I’ve done nothing deserving of a report.

@trenix90 I'll agree with @Chronodusk here as well, this would definitely get abused. While I appreciate where you're coming from, I don't think that this is the right solution for the problem at hand.

As a side note: just because people on the forums might disagree with you does not make them part of the problem. I am a very friendly and open player and I disagree with you on this point.

I'd like to see something happen about this. It is so damn frustrating especially on a small boat since the only thing that you can do is to leave. Downside to this idea is that people will join and downvote you just for the sake of it an then leave again. Like so many people here stated. Worst part you wont even know in order to return the favour. So whats the solution? I honestly do not think they can do anything about it... some sort of penalty would be nice tho. Maybe withdraw some cash if their actions kill a crewmember/ sink the ship and force a rediculous title on them for a month if they do it too much in a short period of time. You could also force a costume on them like tar and feathers so everybody can see who they are dealing with. Cutthroat is one thing but this sh** right there is getting out of hand.