Pirate Legend Seniority Recognition

@new-world-clogs

I understand, I’m just merely saying that the amount of time spent on bilge rats adventures to get the needed doubloons is significantly less than the time to manually get a level up, especially after level 45.

Also, I’m not necessarily suggesting this for me. I don’t really mind, but some of my crew that I did it with are disappointed by not having an in-game way to show that.

@XRyanXKillerX

Yes, you can get the cannons, capstan, etc. to show how long you have been pirate legend, but some of those Athena commendations don’t take into account any pre-update work you did toward them as a pirate legend.

P.S. by pre-update I mean before the Athena Commendations became a thing.

@xryanxkillerx said in Pirate Legend Seniority Recognition:

@cyberguardian77

The reward was the moment in my oppinion, reaching pirate legend is still special to a lot of people even now - Especially those who have started their journey only recently. The New Commendations eventhough they do not count for previous accomplishments are the way to do that Now. Players get rewarded where it is due if they stand out from the rest and give their own twist into the community, realistically a large wave of launch players would have hit it around the same time depending on the intensity of their grind so it was more or less just a normal, inevitable thing.

this is true. we just recently joined and were THIIISSSS close to giving up on the game, because when we searched the web for reviews the critics HATED HATED it, saying it was unfinished, lacked content, it was just a water animation engine left over from Finding Nemo.

but we gave it a chance, and now we've anteed up some vested time. (now whether that's time spent on a complete head-fake, remains to be seen, lol).

@XRyanXKillerX

True. If I came across as complaining, that was unintentional. These are merely observations that I’m stating (and posting out of respect for my crew’s opinions) we accomplished a lot and even made some funny stories (such as sinking 5 galleons in the span of 2 minutes during the hungering deep just to be ‘those’ guys. lol no one had anything fun to lose at the time from the other crews.

@Khompewtur

The critics dare just that: critics.

I’m not discounting their opinion, but they can’t really afford to play it casually in a sense when reviewing. They have to evaluate a game while playing it when trying to review it, not play it just to have fun.

I personally thought it was fine because I was busy wanting to get commendations/promotions so I didn’t really care when waiting for more content to be added. I also liked exploring!

Still, I’m glad you gave it a chance and are enjoying the game! Hope to see ya in the seas sometime!

@TH3xR34P3R

Well you did beat me. I unlocked it on 6/6/18. I’m not at my computer, but I can post a pic later if you guys want proof.

I got PL on 6/1 and A10 before august and thought it would be nice to distinguish those of us that did it the hard way, even if it's something tiny. Especially after they nerfed the requirements for the over achiever sails.

@rp-slayer-2

Thank you for sharing that. That was one of the main reasons that I wanted to post this topic.

I had a random crew mate that was 50 50 46 and became Pirate Legend last night by buying the last 4 levels. He kind of regretted that because he felt he cheated himself out of the experience a bit.

Please don’t hear me say that you cheese the original grinding of it by buying the levels and don’t really ‘earn’ it. That is not what I’m saying.

I guess I just feel that a lot of people won’t feel the same level of satisfaction of getting to Pirate Legend if they just essentially ‘buy’ it at the end.

I agree, I wish being a Pirate Legend was as difficult as it was earlier on. I definitely remember the pride I had in my efforts.

Doubloons aren’t the problem

Instead of grinding voyages, people spent that time and energy working on events. Nothing wrong with becoming a legend in that way since they still had to invest the time into that. I think I bought a total of 4 or 5 levels because I chose to spend my doubloons the cosmetics.

Skeleton Forts ARE the Problem

I’m seeing pirates who are starting the game and hitting legend within a month. How are they doing it? They’re straight up grinding Forts, which give insane amounts of gold and rep for each faction and appear like wildfire. Not only is this a super expedited way to get gold and rep, it also takes away the incentive to work voyages for the trading companies like you’re supposed to do.

If Pirate Legend is to retain value, they need to do something to dial back the frequency and value of Forts because the whole situation is just laughably OP. I remember when Shrouded Spoils dropped I thought it was cool how often Forts were spawning, but now it’s just too much and I’ve lost my sense of excitement over them.

If it wasn’t for Shrouded Spoils, I’d still be a non legend peasant.

Don’t sweat it... until you get Athena 10 - which you can’t purchase or cheese - well... that’s the one that really counts as far as I can tell.

@haydnsym45 Do the new athena commendations not count towards overall xp increase?

@new-world-clogs said in Pirate Legend Seniority Recognition:

The real reason is that Rare realised that after 6 months only 2,1% of their most hardcore players had reached PL (those were Rare's stats). Another 20-40% (my guess) were active players (fans) but had social lives or jobs or other responsibilities and just didn't have the time to invest in the game to get to PL. Those players are valuable assets (because they have jobs = $$$) and you want to keep them as regular players to buy "in-game" stuff like pets in the future. So Rare realised they had to speed up the process of getting to PL. Enter trading doubloons for levels.

Except that trading doubloons for reputation was introduced 3 months in and not 6. They were not introduced for the reason you state.

@chronodusk
Those peeps who only grind forts to reach PL will have a lot of voyages to do if they want to reach some of the Alliance commendations. So, NBD that they reached PL quicker than other.. PL isn't everything.

@cyberguardian77 People earned those doubloons to buy their levels, therefore they earned their title. Does delivering more chickens make you a better PL than someone who went out and killed things for accommodations?

I am PL10 and the only thing that separates a PL from a non PL is time and tenacity.

@zormis said in Pirate Legend Seniority Recognition:

@cyberguardian77 People earned those doubloons to buy their levels, therefore they earned their title. Does delivering more chickens make you a better PL than someone who went out and killed things for accommodations?

I am PL10 and the only thing that separates a PL from a non PL is time and tenacity.

@Zormis

It’s not that you don’t put in work for it by doing Bilge Ray missions, but you have to admit: getting 25 doubloons for killing the Ancient Terror Megalodon as an example (I know the levels require 30, but stick with me here) to get an entire level of rep is much easier and less time consuming than doing, say, 5-7 Full voyages for a full level (particularly when you are past level 40)

So yes, you do put in work, but it’s not anywhere near as time consuming and you didn’t have the risk of losing the rep on your way to the outpost via PvP from another player.

@cyberguardian77 I understand your point which is why put in my other point that someone delivering more chickens doesn't make them a better player :)

I think Rare did want to recognize the (hardcore) original PL's that raced to the finish line by adding the limited time OverAchiever sails. While technically it required more than what was required to be PL, with the lowered caps to get there, Rare made it so that anyone that got to PL before most of the recent in game changes that aide in getting to PL would be able to show off their accomplishments.

I mean, with the Over Achiever sails you had to turn in x number of chests, skulls, merchant items and a host of other things that you could not buy levels to get to. You had to grind.

@Zormis

I’ll agree that it doesn’t necessarily make you a better player in terms of fighting, but using your example, it does teach you to be creative in how to keep the chickens alive long enough.

(i.e. if there is no storm, do I keep the chickens safe in the crows nest to avoid death by cannon if a ship shows up? If there is a storm, do I place them all on one side of the boat or split them? Do I hide them behind a table in case I get boarded? Etc.)

@nofears-fun

Shoot. I probably could’ve gotten the sails, but I took a bit of a haitus from the game when that event took place apparently. Oh well, perhaps another time.

@cyberguardian77 Yeah, it was only out for a couple of weeks. Basically they wanted to reward anyone that worked hard to try and get to the original achievements. Hopefully they re-introduce something similar down the road. As I said, there was no way to buy levels for them, you simply did the work.

@cyberguardian77 The average top doubloons people level with seems to be in the 300 realm, that's 10 levels. If you can't figure out how to keep chickens alive for the first 40 levels, not sure if grinding out the last 10 will help you.

@li-jratt-li said in Pirate Legend Seniority Recognition:

@chronodusk
Those peeps who only grind forts to reach PL will have a lot of voyages to do if they want to reach some of the Alliance commendations. So, NBD that they reached PL quicker than other.. PL isn't everything.

I just think being a Legend should be something that takes a while, and not something you can accomplish in a month's time just by frequently participating in one part of the game.