Riddles are not Worth Doing

You're not wrong. Why do a three step riddle for a seafarers chest when you can just dump that page and pick up a 4 X marks map? That's a question I've asked myself for a long time.

Then again I also ask myself "Why in a pirate game is it nearly impossible to steal anything from the merchant alliance?" Rare does some strange things indeed sometimes.

It's been suggsted multiple times before... but I like the idea of having riddles span across multiple islands, and spawning smaller loot (trinkets, etc.) along the way.

@wodyo I really don't think stretching riddles across multiple islands is the way to go. You'd spend near an hour to get 1 chest if you got unlucky

@notthebeeze It could be made worth it. Increasing the drops of random treasures/trinkets along the way, is one way. Only spawning upper-tier treasures for the end-result, is another way. I see no reason why both couldn't be applied, myself.

@wodyo perhaps it could work if implemented well but I feel it's a more roundabout way of achieving something with a simpler fix

I'd like to see multiple island voyages for sure though and if the reward was right then riddles would be great

@thetwistedtaste

It sounds interesting however I still feel it's a lot of work when there's nothing wrong with riddles themselves.

Adding the chance to get multiple chests or perhaps even some trinkets is a quick fix and means you still get that climax at the end of the puzzle rather than dispersing the reward throughout.

This is a lot more Dev work and I'd rather see their time spent on the bigger expansions and delivering quicker, smaller updates in higher quantities

@thetwistedtaste

Combining X maps and Riddles would be a good fix and would be easy to implement, just make all riddle maps come with a X map

Adding treasure at each step of the riddle would be a bit more difficult as you'd have to dig it up. You'd have to rework the riddles to include compass directions and you'd lose a lot of variety not needing to play music or raise a lantern (I'd love to see these add more of these like "take a sip of grog"). A 4 step riddle would mean digging up 3 items and I think it's better to receive a larger reward at the end anyway.

@thetwistedtaste
But that would reveal looking for the clue location. Instead of searching for wall paintings and landmarks you'd just look for the glint of treasure?

@thetwistedtaste

I've no problem with the length of the actual riddle itself.

My issue with riddles is that I'm not going to sail to shark bait cove right in the corner of the map if there's only a riddle on that island. Occasionally we will do a riddle on an island we're directly passing and definitely if there's a second map for that island. But sailing to out of the way islands for one chest

However I would consider sailing further, docking my ship and searching an island with only one riddle if that riddle could reward my crew with multiple chests.

@thetwistedtaste said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

Oh, in that case, Rare should just give us the option to choose between riddles or X-Marks in the Gold Hoarders like they’ve done with Merchant Voyages and Cargo Runs.

But then I feel people would simply only pick the X maps. I know I would, and I like the variety you get with doing both but currently I don't experience much of that variety due to skipping on riddles for lack of a reward.

@sgt-palooggoo said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

I'd have to agree here.
If I were in charge I'd increase the amount of cursed chest found by Riddles.

Is more cursed chests really a good thing??

@kin-h4chi said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

The bigger idea with the riddles is exploration not loot and those of us that basically memorized every answer would run through a large island 4 part riddle like nothing. I would like to see more riddles per island based on lvl similarly to lvl 50 getting 6-8 xs on an island with mauraders and captains with the chance of cursed. Lvl 50 riddles would give 3-4 riddles for 1 island.

Multiple riddles for the same island would be a good fix though it might clog up maps wheel. Perhaps if the riddles unlocked one at a time

It's the time it takes to sail to an island for only one chest I have an issue with

@kin-h4chi said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

@notthebeeze

You haven't Dr grind much have you? There were times I had 16+ bottles from the barrels as well as the 8 Athena's

I haven't Dr grind? I've had 3 full pages of voyages before if that's what you mean. I just think getting 4 separate riddles in place of one is a bit excessive

@sshteeve said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

I have found a liking for these more now actually since my GH rep hit 50 - less need to get lots of loot, so nice to just enjoy working my brain out a bit and getting to truly know an island.

I really like the riddles as well and I have no need for gold as I've bought pretty much everything I would ever want but I still find riddles less rewarding than they should be.

Ultimately my issue is that I've not enough incentive to sail to and dock my ship at an island to complete a riddle that only rewards me with one chest.

They can be completed fairly quickly so I will do them if I'm already at the island but not if it's the only thing on that island

@notthebeeze said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

@sgt-palooggoo said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

I'd have to agree here.
If I were in charge I'd increase the amount of cursed chest found by Riddles.

Is more cursed chests really a good thing??

If riddles had a higher chance of dropping Chest of Sorrows, I'd do them even less. I don't want to have to make an outpost detour after every single riddle.

My problem with riddles isn't so much the payout, it's that eventually they feel more like grocery shopping than treasure hunting. It's gotten a lot better since they increased the amount of landmarks that riddles can point you towards, but eventually, I'm going to learn where all of those are too, and it'll be back to shopping.
That's the problem with most "brain games" tho, once you know the answer, it's not really a game anymore.

Personally, what I'd love to see is clues to bonus loot on the back of the riddle, even if it just points out washed-up loot & random spawns. The only time we see anything on the back of a map is in the tutorial, and that's only there to demonstrate how to show your maps to other people. I think it would be great to be reading a riddle, and have a crewmate go "hey, there's something on the back of that map!".

@kin-h4chi said in Riddles are not Worth Doing:

@notthebeeze

Then you know 4 riddles on an island that's for a voyage isn't much of a clutter.

But imagine you put down a voyage and get 2 or even 3 lots of 4 riddles you're already dedicating a page to a couple islands